I love Sunday games. I dont think God cares either. If you go with your family
to a ball game on Sunday, he's just as fine with that as if you go on a
Chris, apparently you have never read Nehemiah 10:31, nor have you read and
understood the 4th Commandment, Keep the sabbath day holy.Six days shall thou
work. If we buy tickets on Sunday we are violating Nehemiah 10:31. Those
playing have to work, thus violation of the sabbath. Yes, police have to work
because crooks don't take a day off, nor do crazy stupid drivers.
Hospitals have to work because people get sick and hurt. People running power
plants have to work to keep electricity coming to us.Sports do NOT
have to be played on Sunday. Money hungry, power grabbing entities push that on
us. God will hold each person responsible for the violation of His
Commandments. Your thinking it is wrong is exactly what Satan wants us to
think. After all if we are involved in sports (watching or participating) we
most likely will not be involved in church.
Chris, you are in no position whatsoever to say what God thinks. Games do not
HAVE to be played on Sunday. Every other day of the week works just as fine.
@CougarBlue,Do you eat breakfast on Sundays? Do you drive your car?
Do you read books? watch tv? check your email? use your cell phone? Ride your
bike? Who gets to decide what is breaking the sabbath and what is
not? God just said Keep the Sabbath day holy. What if that means to me just
think about God a little more? Why is my definition of keeping it
holy not right, but yours is?
BYU should just stay independent in football and lobby the Catholic 7 to allow
them to join a new conference for other sports. Over time BYU's
independence would become more valuable than any conference's individual
share, especially with the added exposure that would come from competing in the
best basketball conference in the country.
BYU is right where they need to be.Independence with ESPN is perfect for
BYU and the WCC and Mountain-Pacific Conferences are great for the Olympic
sports.It's the nature of the beast.BYU will not
relinquish their own network or ESPN deal and Sunday play?...forget it.Therefore, they are set.BYU's access to the playoff is as good as
anyone elses.The BCS is dead. If BYU wants a better bowl
situation, then they should start their own.Money talks. Payouts drive
contracts, not tradition.
@slsWhy would BYU leave the WCC for Eastern and Midwest schools.Think travel.
Chrissy B., Wow, I didn't realize it was up to you to decide what it means
to "keep the sabbath day holy", and how to keep it holy. I'm glad
to see that it is up to you to make God's decisions. By that logic, I
guess it's up to each one of us whether or not to kill and in what manner,
whether to commit adultery and decide what consitutes adultery, whether or not
to covet and what really constitutes coveting, etc. In addition, if
you are going to treat Sunday the same as any other day of the week, then how
are you truly keeping the sabbath day holy? It's no different than any
other day. And how much are you really "thinking about God" sitting at
a football or basketball game?As far as I'm concerned, if this
is the reason that some of the conferences are not inviting BYU, then they are
better off to stay independent. As the article said, they will never play on
Sunday...and it should stay that way.
Sure would have been interesting if the author had provided a climpse into the
current Big 12 practice regarding Sunday play. How many Big 12 sports hold
Sunday games? Has this always been the case? Would it be possible for a team
to avoid Sunday games but still be part of the schedule? It's certainly
not a problem for football games, because no college football games are played
on Sunday--so, would it be a possibility for BYU to join the Big 12 conference
and compete in sports that don't compete on Sundays? Or, maybe just join
sigh, I see that my little sister has continued her BYU-envy temper tantrum onto
another blog.She's welcome to her own opinion of what God
thinks about Sunday sports, but BYU needs to follow the dictates of its own
collective conscience in doing what it thinks is right.BYU has
competed in the MPSF for years in a variety of sports against teams from
throughout the western part of the United States, including teams like UCLA, USC
and Stanford. Only a few conference games are played on Sunday, so
it's really not that big of an inconvenience for teams not to play BYU on
Sunday. There are plenty of other teams that are willing to play on Sunday.
Independent means alone.Get used to it.
Scott FarcusIndependent means NOT Dependent.Get used to
being a well-paid whipping boy.
I couldn't care less if we are independent. We still have a great schedules
for our teams. If we go undefeated then we'll break into the BCS. Meanwhile
we are making a boatload of money that we don't have to split with anyone.
If we can just develop an offense in football, what's not to like. Utah is
getting kicked all over the field and court. Theirs is not an example I am
anxious to emulate.
@Chris BWhat day of the week is Satuday? Is it right after Fryday?
YGradfan,Your comment makes no sense. I'm asking who gets to
decide what is keeping teh sabbath day holy. Cougarblue suggests that going to a
game on Sunday breaks the sabbath. He also says working on sunday breaks the
sabbath.My question is "says who"And NO, its not
God. God just said "keep the sabbath holy"Where does God
say "you can't work sundays" or "you cant go to sports on
sundays"I'm asking, who gets to decide what is breaking the
sabbath?And if you say God, please show me in the Bible where God
said going to a sports game on a Sunday is breaking the sabbath.
BYUtah Fan said:"I couldn't care less if we are
independent. We still have a great schedules for our teams. If we go undefeated
then we'll break into the BCS. Meanwhile we are making a boatload of money
that we don't have to split with anyone. If we can just develop an offense
in football, what's not to like. Utah is getting kicked all over the field
and court. Theirs is not an example I am anxious to emulate."Well they could have stayed in the MWC to avoid Sunday play. But chose more
exposure and the money that goes with it. You see they were chasing the money
Of course it matters; who wants a new team telling the rest of the conference
what days they will, and will not play on? Why can't they give the athletes
a waiver like they do in the NFL and NBA. It's time for a revelation!
@Chris BIt's fun to see your comments on the Utah pages, but we
can't be pot calling the kettle black on their pages. Let's keep of
theirs and keep their teams discussion amongst their fans :)
I'm surprised the article doesn't mention the big recent discussions
by the BIG 12 to lobby the NCAA to do away with the 12 member requirement for a
football championship game. The BIG 12 thinks that that is overregulation by
the NCAA and they think they legitimately have a chance to get that requirement
waived. I don't see why they need one but their point is that they should
be able to determine their champion however they want.@Chris B -
Although the Bible contains many of God's words, the Bible does not contain
all of God's words. The word of God spoken through living prophets and
apostles has greater authority than the words of past prophets and apostles.
Although its odd that you choose to come in and comment on almost every BYU
article about how it relates to the Utes and their membership in the PAC-12
conference, you clearly are one to cling to small-mindedness if you truly
believe (1) that God can't give modern-day revelation or (2) that He
chooses not to.
It's been my understanding since 16 months ago that FOX in particular felt
troubled about BYU entering the league with such a strict policy particularly if
it was only going to reamin at 10 schools. The Big 12 media partners have
seeminly indicated BYU would work in that league with 12 or more schools where
they have more work-arounds available to them.
Nice argument. Guess how many times Kansas played a Sunday TV game this season?
That's right, it was 0.And the Big 12 championship game? On a
Saturday.This article is speculation and reading between the
lines.Colleges do not have to play on Sunday, and most of the time,
they do not. If the Big 12 really wanted BYU, Sunday play would not be an
What's the big deal? Stay independent and continue to read the absolutely
hilarious posts by Chris B about the PAC 12 bottom feeders. Life is good.
I Bleed blue, but I am sorry, those of you who claim that BYU is in a better
spot as an Indy in Football and a member of the Catholic 7 or the WCC for
Olympic sports are either out of your minds or don't understand the
importance of Real Exposure to a College Sports Program...The Big 12
would give BYU far better Recruiting Capability, a far greater viewership, and
tons more money than we will ever make from an ESPN contract...College Sports is entertainment and the athletes are actors and actresses that
either make or break the quality of the show... If you can't entice top
athletes to play for you, you will become less competitive and fewer fans will
follow you... You won't be able to schedule as well and the Networks will
eventually leave you... The quality of coaching will also suffer...If we were to be honest, since leaving the MWC our sports programs have gotten
worse, not better... Football recruiting was very weak this year (zero 5 stars,
one 4 star, and a locker room full of 2 stars)... Without Lone Peak HS
Basketball would be in the same boat.
What's missing in this blog is how football a revenue sport pays for the
non-revenue sports that are played on Sundays. Ask yourself how willing would
the schools of a conference feel about sharing revenue dollars with another
school without their participation and support in the non revenue sports? One of
the reasons for inviting BYU to any conference would be their non-revenue sports
"Utah is getting kicked all over the field and court. Theirs is not an
example I am anxious to emulate."I am a BYU fan as well.... butI
don't think any BYU fans should be running around thumping their chest
about any of BYUs sports results either. As for example... if you listen to
Mike and Mike in the morning.... just how many times is BYU talked about. If
sports, for kids that want to go on to the next level, its about exposure. If
you not on nationally, you are not getting exposure. How many BYU basketball
games were on national TV this year... on a channel that anyone watches. I think before my fellow BYU fans get to chuffed - they need to realize
that outside of Utah which represents less than1 percent of the Nation.... not
many people are talking about BYU. And yes, I agree, college sports
should not be played on sundays. Even secularly, everyone needs a day off.
While these are legitimate issues, there are easy solutions for all of them.
ADs, school presidents and conference administrators acting responsibly can find
ways to make conference membership mutually beneficial.
@ Chris B.I believe if you read the Ten Commandments you will find
that 4 verses are for the Sabbath Day. Read carefully, understand that God makes
it plain that not only do we not work but should do our best to keep others from
working. Your point is not solid even though the modern chooses to ignore this
commandment and the others. 12 Keep the sabbath day to sanctify it,
as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee. 13 Six days thou shalt
labour, and do all thy work: 14 But the seventh day is the sabbath
of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor
thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thine ox, nor thine
a.., nor any of thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates; that thy
manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as thou. 15 And
remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the LORD thy
God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm:
therefore the LORD thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.
BYU likes not competing for titles. Let's just face it.
@Lone Star CougarAlso remember, that the traditional Sabbath is
@Lone Star and ALL other byu fans:You STILL aren't answering
the question. If God is the one who decides what is breaking the
sabbath, please show me where God said watching a sports game is breaking the
sabbath.What if the man I believe speaks for God(the Pope) says the
keeping the sabbath just means in your heart thinking more about God.Why is the Pope wrong but your church is right?God never said you
cant play sports on Sunday.
As much as I might disagree with Chris B. on most posts (and wonder why he cares
so much about BYU sports), in this case, we have not handled this issue as we
should as BYU/LDS people. I would just say: Chris, I like your idea
of thinking more about God on Sunday. Our way of doing that is to engage in
activities (where we have discretion) that allow us to maximize that
opportunity. We do that by spending time in church services with our families,
doing service and other activities that help others and strengthen our most
important relationships. We feel that certain kinds of recreation which we do
other days e.g. attending sporting events detracts from that goal. That is our belief and our particular promise to God to live that way. We
invite you and others to try this and see if it doesn't help you and your
family in your life. It's your choice. You are not obligated to live that
way, nor do we disrespect your personal decisions. We just ask for your respect
of our way of life.
@Chrissy B., No one was questioning whether your form of worshipping God on the
sabbath day was right or wrong. What I was questioning, and back to my original
point, is that it is not up to you to decide how and when to worship God. If it
was up to each of us, then we could all do what we wanted with his commandments
and justify our actions in following them one way or another. If it isn't
clear for you in the Bible, then you need to go to your church leaders for
clarification.And, no, the Bible doesn't just say, keep the
sabbath day holy. There are many other passages in the bible that give you an
idea as to the types of things you should or should not do on the sabbath, as
provided examples by other posters.If worse comes to worse, and
you're not sure what God intended when he asked you to keep the sabbath day
holy, I have some additional scriptures and literature that will help clarify it
for you. :) Just in case you are interested. :)
YGrad fan and all other byu fans:I began this back and forth by
saying God does not care if we go to sports games on Sundays.You all
strongly disagreed.I'm asking for evidence God has said sports
are wrong on Sundays.Why is this so difficult for you to answer.I"ll ask again:Where did God say sports are bad on
Sundays?Where did God say sports are bad on Sundays?Where did God say sports are bad on Sundays?Once more:Where did God say sports are bad on Sundays?
BYUtah Fan is right. If BYU runs an undefeated season they will break into the
BCS and the conference schools will want us. And with BYU's schedule it
won't take multiple undefeated years like Utah.Except for
Louisville, the only schools to break into the BCS are those that first break
into the BCS Bowls and win.
Somehow I feel like the article missed the headline a bit. It talks about that
BYU will not play on Sunday's and that maybe some TV giants don't like
that, but I was expecting a detailed explanation with numbers and figures of the
impact. This series of articles has not provided any news to me.
@Chris B3rd Nephi 11:29 "For verily, verily I say unto you, he
that hath the spirit of acontention is not of me, but is of the bdevil, who is
the father of contention, and he stirreth up the hearts of men to contend with
anger, one with another."I love the Utes on BYU's
articles.... I feel like some people wait by their computers all day for a
chance to attack someone... not coolIn other news, how about them
If I chose not to read any Chris B comments on Sunday, would this be considered
a day of rest?
". . . Well paid whipping boy . . .?". My understanding is that BYU
makes far less from TV revenue than anyone in the PAC 12, BIG 10, BIg 12, SEC or
ACC. I'm sure the actual figures could easily be abstracted from public
records with the investment of an hour or so. Why don't one of you who
believes that BYU is making a lot of money from independence do the research
and share with us what you learn.
@Chrissy B., Fine, I was trying to smooth things over, and you continue with
your silly remarks. If you insist...where does God say that sports are good on
Sundays? You want a scriptural reference for something that doesn't exist,
and didn't exist back at the time the Bible was written. So do I. I
don't recall God ever saying that it was good to go see a football game on
Sundays. Please provide reference.
BYU will not play on Sundays. It is what it is and has always been. Yet I knew
once this article hit the news we would have all the attackers and defenders in
a frenzy. Sunday play is a central topic when considering conference
affiliation. But rather BYU stays independent or not, they are not playing on
Sundays. Now I get somewhat annoyed with the schedule comparisons
between Utah and BYU but if I were BYU, I would have a lot of reason to stay
independent. You get ESPN (exposure), control your BYU TV stuff
(utilizing your assets), play good match ups (despite the bad ones), will go
bowling even if you win less than half your tougher games once the lesser
schedule kicks in (next year an exception though), and aren't controlled by
a conference telling you were you fit in.I understand many BYU
wanting in the Big 12, but lashing out at Holmoe without understanding the
parameters he works with is ignorant. But it's no different than fans
everywhere wanting their coaches and GMs fired all to often.
@Chris B.Read my post. There was no "Sports on Sunday" in
Moses' day, or Jesus' day for that matter. We take "day of
rest" to mean we don't do the same things on Sunday that we do the
other 6 days. I hope you will allow us to practice our religion this way and
hope others will respect you for how you do it. I have many good friends who are
Catholic.Not too long ago, most people of faith in the US and Europe
didn't play sports on Sunday. People spent their time with their families
and went to church. Europeans still keep their shops (mostly) closed on Sunday.
Most sports are a business and as all businesses have done,
they've extended their business hours over a day (Sunday) that used to be
"family time". Sunday has become like all other days mainly for money.
Sure we can take our kids to a ball game or movie, but I think that quality time
is found doing things with more interaction like visiting 1:1, playing board
games or cards, taking a walk together, etc. And...I personally need a break
from the week.
Ygradfan, Very poor reasoning. God doesn't say it's ok to
eat on sabbath. He doesn't say it's ok to breathe on the sabbath. He
doesn't say it's ok to talk on the sabbath. We all agree god
doesn't have to say its ok to eat breathe or talk on the sabbath for those
to be ok. You guys are the ones claiming sports aren't ok. You are the one
who drew the line making talking and breathing ok but sports not ok. Again, why do you get to draw the line? Or if its god drawing the line, where
does he say sports are bad but eating and breathing are ok? Please let's
have a logical conversation here.
East coast,Forgive me for pointing out your inconsistencies. You
say you take day of rest to mean you don't do things on Sunday you do other
days but that's not true. You eat Sundays? You walk Sundays? You talk on
the phone? But you do those thing other days? I am simply asking why you byu
fans can tell me I am wrong in saying sports are ok?It is you byu
fans who jumped on me saying I was wrong that god is ok with Sunday sports. I never said I command you to watch sports Sundays. So please stop with
the "please let us practice out religion". You guys are the ones
attempting to change my behavior. Never once in my posts have I told you you
have to watch sports.
I am fine if you people disagree, but is it too much to ask for logical
responses? Who gets to say what is ok and what is not ok?AND(This is the part you guys aren't being logical with)Where
does it say that eating, walking, breathing, talking on phone, board games,
checking email, sleeping, watching tv, combing your hair, driving your car,
using electricity, are ok but watching sports isn't?It's
you guys telling me its wrong. Never have I said you have to do it, so drop the
victim card like I am not allowing you to follow your religion.
@ Chris BA BYU article and you have commented 10 times so far. Do
you have a need to be the center of attention. I believe many others like me
would like to read comments from others instead of you. After the first couple
of posts you have provided nothing new.
Why does it matter to it's detractors what BYU does or doesn't do?
For one, though BYU isn't perfect, it does have somewhat different
priorities than a lot of schools. I personally believe the church leaders would
shut down any of its programs if they felt they were forced into a situation
against those priorities. BYU is OWNED by The Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-Day-Saints. When it comes to asking who says it's wrong to play on
Sunday, it comes down to believing in a Prophet who speaks for God. You may not
believe that Thomas S. Monson is a prophet. But please accept that he is the
head of the church that owns the school. He and the others on the board of
directors have the prerogative to determine policy for BYU. So far it has
worked out for BYU to follow its board of directors. What's to criticize?
I believe it's trying to follow its conscience, trying not to hurt anyone.
Other schools are free to participate as they wish. I believe BYU will succeed
in its teaching mission to the degree it follows it's board.
Byusu,Forgive me for sticking up for myself after everyone attacks
me for my beliefs. It is my belief god is fine with Sunday sports. If you say
I am wrong, please be willing to have a logical discussion of why I am wrong
As much as I hate to admit it, Sunday has to mean a huge viewing audience and
advertising dollar day for the networks. I expect they would exert all the
pressure and influence they can to keep Sunday play in the works, and non-Sunday
playing teams out. Also, judging from BYU's past few seasons, the viewing
audience for their games is likely to be slim, until they have better stats, and
that's not a draw for the other teams to want them in the mix. I think they
would see it as a loss of revenue from any standpoint. We just have
to do better as a team to have clout in negotiating inclusion. We have to
represent an increase in revenue to other Big 12 teams as well as to the
Who cares. I've grown ambivalent about BYU and the Big-12-2.
@Lone Star, I like your explanation. Here's my 2 cents: BYU doesn't
seem to care about recruiting, exposure, etc, etc. They are simply not going to
consider things like every other schools chooses to consider them. And if it
works for them, then good for them. Why everyone needs to speculate or have an
opinion about all of this "independent vs conference" debate is beyond
me. In the final analysis, it's just a game, and each school is capable of
making their own decisions about it.Funny though, how so many of the
discussion head straight back to religion. The article simply states that BYU
will never play Sunday games. Pretty simple really, and again, their choice...
@gdog3finally...I believe the school thinks exactly like you do on
this topic and that is why BYU will never play on the big stage... And because
we never will play on the big stage we will continue to see a deterioration of
our Recruiting Capability, and the fans will continue to see teams like Idaho,
New Mexico State, Eastern Washington, Weber State and Idaho State as their only
home games in November...That's why players won't be able
to play for Conference Championships or all conference selection... In short,
that is why BYU will never be able to ling to its glory days in Sports... BYU
needs an AD that can push BYU, that has National Credibility with other
Universities... But most of all, BYU needs an AD that has the ability to
persuade the minds of the Brethern who sit on the Board of Trustees... BYU needs
to understand that there is really only one sacred cow in Negotiations and that
is "No Sunday Play"... Everything else can be negotiated and adjusted to
gain Super Conference Membership.
One very powerful precedent for the Big 12 to recognize more fully is how very
well BYU's non-Sunday play fits perfectly well with repeated participation
in the NCAA basketball, March madness! It's a non-issue. Plus they see
from sports TV leaders, ESPN that BYU brings a huge attraction and appeal to
national sports television and revenue! The Big 12 with BYU would be the most
successful conference acquisition to date nationally. Only ND would create a
bigger media explosion. Undoubtedly, a win-win when - not if-the Big-12 and BYU
finally partner up. I'm truly looking forward to it and the Big-12's
Football is not an issue. Even when New Years was on Sunday there were no
college games.Other sports is not an issue with some conferences
like the MWC and PCC with no Sunday play.The NBA makes exceptions
for Sunday home games for Utah, Dallas, and Charlotte. Any college
conference can make conditions for a religious school. If TV is so big on
Sunday, which it is not in college, than give the Sunday money to those that
play Sunday. You won't get an argument from the other schools unless the
money really isn't there.
Chris B. Why is it so important for you to express your views here? If
"we" are so illogical then why even bother to put up with us when we
@Chris B.I guess what I would say is; you are right, there is no
specific place in the Bible that prohibits going to sporting events on Sundays.
The principles and doctrines regarding Sunday observance are there in abundance,
but the specifics of sporting events aren't. But as far as who gets to say
it's wrong, it would be the prophet. HE gets to speak for the Lord.
Modern revelation allows for many clarifications of different commandments.Now I would guess you do not believe Thomas S. Monson is a prophet. I
accept that. If that is the case, I understand your questioning. For those of
us who do believe he is, we are duty-bound to follow him. It's a spiritual
thing that can't be described in scientific black and white but is based on
a testimony of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Just my
opinion. (see Doctrine and Covenants 1:38 *. . . my word shall not
pass away, but shall all be fulfilled, whether by mine own voice or by the voice
of my servants, it is the same.*)
@Chris B.No need to take this personal. When BYU says that it will
not play sports on Sunday, you are free to disagree and you don't have to
take it personally. BYU is NOT trying to stop the Big 12 from playing on
Sundays, they are NOT trying to stop the U, or the Jazz or even its graduates
from playing on Sundays. BYU is trying to represent the Church of
Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the Church's values and teachings, and
its prophet. You can mock them for doing so if you choose, but it
won't look good on you. So, don't get hung up on this if
you're not LDS. Move on with your life and your beliefs. I'd like to see BYU join the Big 12, however, the grass isn't
necessarily greener on the other side. Generally, when it comes to
sports, it's the winning teams who get the press. Sure you'll get more
if you do it in a big conference, but it's winning that builds teams and
legacies, not affiliations.Interesting article, thanks!
"Where did God say sports are bad on Sundays?"See very
concerned's comments. Below is a quote from a prophet named Spencer
W. Kimball from the 70's who gave a talk entitled, "We Need a Listening
Ear." "Brethren and sisters, once again I call to our attention
the fourth commandment given by the Lord to Moses on Mount Sinai:
“Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy” (Ex. 20:8). Let us
observe it strictly in our homes and in our families. Let us refrain from all
unnecessary labors. Sunday is not a day for hunting or fishing, nor for
swimming, picnicking, boating, or engaging in any other sports."It doesn't get any clearer than that.I could give you 5 other
direct quotes from prophets. LDS people believe in prophets, and this is as
direct of council as it comes.
Its clear that college sports and pro sports are a business. If the teams hold
their games on Sundays, tons of workers have to work on that day - concession
workers, clean-up workers, the paid coaches, the paid trainers, etc. For the TV
games, add in all of the workers who help create the TV broadcast. By going to
the stadium or watching on TV you are helping cause all of those people to work
on Sunday which interferes with their chance to commune with God and focus on
God for that day. The scriptures (including the Bible) say don't even let
your servant do the work on Sunday. By giving the schools or the TV people our
attention and/or money for the day they become our "servants" so to
speak so even if a fan is not working by going to the stadium he is causing a
lot of other people to have to work on Sunday by going to the stadium or
watching on TV.@Chris B. - Do you believe that it is a clear
Biblical principal for Sunday not to be a day of business?
"Therefore, they are set.BYU's access to the playoff is as good
as anyone elses.The BCS is dead."Bluto, I agreed with most
of your post however you're dead wrong here. BYU is not in one of the five
conferences controlling this new playoff therefore they would not be selected
for a playoff position under any circumstance. They could go (12-0) beating
No.'s 2-13 and it wouldn't matter one bit because their invitation
would cut one of the five conferences out of additional revenue.
BYU should not and will not ever play on Sunday. Having said that I have seen
plenty of LDS people at Disneyland on Sunday - including myself - but the BIG 12
issue is an image thing that reflects poorly on the Church as a whole so Sunday
football is out. Secondly BYU is in a world of hurt with football
going forward. Independence makes it all but impossible to attract any decent
teams to Provo and I can see recruiting drying up in the next few years for the
Y simply because the good players want to be in a BCS conference. It may end up
being that BYU drops football within 10 years. Times are changing.
@patriot "Secondly BYU is in a world of hurt with football going forward.
Independence makes it all but impossible to attract any decent teams to
Provo"Yes, of course, since next year alone BYU only has Texas,
Georgia Tech, BSU, and Utah coming to town (roll my eyes)."I can
see recruiting drying up in the next few years for the Y simply because the good
players want to be in a BCS conference."If it's true that
all the good players to be in a BCS conference, than how is it any different now
than when BYU was in the MWC?BYU's fine and will continue to be
fine. Independence is a great fit for a football program like BYU's, and I
personally hope it will continue.So thank you for your concern, but
I have no doubts that BYU football will be around for a long time.Go
"BYU should not and will not ever play on Sunday. Having said that I have
seen plenty of LDS people at Disneyland on Sunday - including myself - but the
BIG 12 issue is an image thing that reflects poorly on the Church as a whole so
Sunday football is out. Secondly BYU is in a world of hurt with
football going forward. Independence makes it all but impossible to attract any
decent teams to Provo and I can see recruiting drying up in the next few years
for the Y simply because the good players want to be in a BCS conference. It may
end up being that BYU drops football within 10 years. Times are
changing."Duh, the Mormon faith is about appearance to about 80%
of so called "active" members.Remains to be seen. I think
BYU has some quality brands coming to Provo this Fall though I'm curious as
to how many they can get as things like the ACC adding a conference game
continue to happen. Regarding recruiting, this year's class
was nothing to write home about. If this becomes a trend you're correct,
they're in trouble.