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Published: Thursday, Feb. 21 2013 11:55 a.m. MST

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Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

I love Sunday games. I dont think God cares either. If you go with your family to a ball game on Sunday, he's just as fine with that as if you go on a Satuday.

CougarBlue
Heber City, UT

Chris, apparently you have never read Nehemiah 10:31, nor have you read and understood the 4th Commandment, Keep the sabbath day holy.Six days shall thou work. If we buy tickets on Sunday we are violating Nehemiah 10:31. Those playing have to work, thus violation of the sabbath. Yes, police have to work because crooks don't take a day off, nor do crazy stupid drivers. Hospitals have to work because people get sick and hurt. People running power plants have to work to keep electricity coming to us.

Sports do NOT have to be played on Sunday. Money hungry, power grabbing entities push that on us.

God will hold each person responsible for the violation of His Commandments. Your thinking it is wrong is exactly what Satan wants us to think. After all if we are involved in sports (watching or participating) we most likely will not be involved in church.

FB Fan #2
Grantsville, UT

Chris, you are in no position whatsoever to say what God thinks. Games do not HAVE to be played on Sunday. Every other day of the week works just as fine.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

@CougarBlue,

Do you eat breakfast on Sundays? Do you drive your car? Do you read books? watch tv? check your email? use your cell phone? Ride your bike?

Who gets to decide what is breaking the sabbath and what is not? God just said Keep the Sabbath day holy. What if that means to me just think about God a little more?

Why is my definition of keeping it holy not right, but yours is?

sls
Columbia, MO

BYU should just stay independent in football and lobby the Catholic 7 to allow them to join a new conference for other sports. Over time BYU's independence would become more valuable than any conference's individual share, especially with the added exposure that would come from competing in the best basketball conference in the country.

Bluto
Sandy, UT

BYU is right where they need to be.
Independence with ESPN is perfect for BYU and the WCC and Mountain-Pacific Conferences are great for the Olympic sports.

It's the nature of the beast.
BYU will not relinquish their own network or ESPN deal and Sunday play?...forget it.

Therefore, they are set.
BYU's access to the playoff is as good as anyone elses.
The BCS is dead.

If BYU wants a better bowl situation, then they should start their own.
Money talks. Payouts drive contracts, not tradition.

Bluto
Sandy, UT

@sls

Why would BYU leave the WCC for Eastern and Midwest schools.
Think travel.

YGradFan
CENTERVILLE, UT

Chrissy B., Wow, I didn't realize it was up to you to decide what it means to "keep the sabbath day holy", and how to keep it holy. I'm glad to see that it is up to you to make God's decisions. By that logic, I guess it's up to each one of us whether or not to kill and in what manner, whether to commit adultery and decide what consitutes adultery, whether or not to covet and what really constitutes coveting, etc.

In addition, if you are going to treat Sunday the same as any other day of the week, then how are you truly keeping the sabbath day holy? It's no different than any other day. And how much are you really "thinking about God" sitting at a football or basketball game?

As far as I'm concerned, if this is the reason that some of the conferences are not inviting BYU, then they are better off to stay independent. As the article said, they will never play on Sunday...and it should stay that way.

AllSeeingEye
Salt Lake City, UT

Sure would have been interesting if the author had provided a climpse into the current Big 12 practice regarding Sunday play. How many Big 12 sports hold Sunday games? Has this always been the case? Would it be possible for a team to avoid Sunday games but still be part of the schedule? It's certainly not a problem for football games, because no college football games are played on Sunday--so, would it be a possibility for BYU to join the Big 12 conference and compete in sports that don't compete on Sundays? Or, maybe just join for football?

Christy B
Salt Lake City, Utah

sigh, I see that my little sister has continued her BYU-envy temper tantrum onto another blog.

She's welcome to her own opinion of what God thinks about Sunday sports, but BYU needs to follow the dictates of its own collective conscience in doing what it thinks is right.

BYU has competed in the MPSF for years in a variety of sports against teams from throughout the western part of the United States, including teams like UCLA, USC and Stanford.

Only a few conference games are played on Sunday, so it's really not that big of an inconvenience for teams not to play BYU on Sunday. There are plenty of other teams that are willing to play on Sunday.

Scott Farcus
Beaver, UT

Independent means alone.

Get used to it.

talkinsports
Gilbert, AZ

Scott Farcus

Independent means NOT Dependent.

Get used to being a well-paid whipping boy.

BYUtah Fan
Herriman, UT

I couldn't care less if we are independent. We still have a great schedules for our teams. If we go undefeated then we'll break into the BCS. Meanwhile we are making a boatload of money that we don't have to split with anyone. If we can just develop an offense in football, what's not to like. Utah is getting kicked all over the field and court. Theirs is not an example I am anxious to emulate.

agarrett
PROVO, UT

@Chris B
What day of the week is Satuday? Is it right after Fryday?

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

YGradfan,

Your comment makes no sense. I'm asking who gets to decide what is keeping teh sabbath day holy. Cougarblue suggests that going to a game on Sunday breaks the sabbath. He also says working on sunday breaks the sabbath.

My question is "says who"

And NO, its not God. God just said "keep the sabbath holy"

Where does God say "you can't work sundays" or "you cant go to sports on sundays"

I'm asking, who gets to decide what is breaking the sabbath?

And if you say God, please show me in the Bible where God said going to a sports game on a Sunday is breaking the sabbath.

NightOwlAmerica
SALEM, OR

BYUtah Fan said:

"I couldn't care less if we are independent. We still have a great schedules for our teams. If we go undefeated then we'll break into the BCS. Meanwhile we are making a boatload of money that we don't have to split with anyone. If we can just develop an offense in football, what's not to like. Utah is getting kicked all over the field and court. Theirs is not an example I am anxious to emulate."

Well they could have stayed in the MWC to avoid Sunday play. But chose more exposure and the money that goes with it. You see they were chasing the money after all.

Spokane Ute
Spokane, WA

Of course it matters; who wants a new team telling the rest of the conference what days they will, and will not play on? Why can't they give the athletes a waiver like they do in the NFL and NBA. It's time for a revelation!

cedarcityute
cedar city, UT

@Chris B

It's fun to see your comments on the Utah pages, but we can't be pot calling the kettle black on their pages. Let's keep of theirs and keep their teams discussion amongst their fans :)

caleb in new york
Glen Cove, NY

I'm surprised the article doesn't mention the big recent discussions by the BIG 12 to lobby the NCAA to do away with the 12 member requirement for a football championship game. The BIG 12 thinks that that is overregulation by the NCAA and they think they legitimately have a chance to get that requirement waived. I don't see why they need one but their point is that they should be able to determine their champion however they want.

@Chris B - Although the Bible contains many of God's words, the Bible does not contain all of God's words. The word of God spoken through living prophets and apostles has greater authority than the words of past prophets and apostles. Although its odd that you choose to come in and comment on almost every BYU article about how it relates to the Utes and their membership in the PAC-12 conference, you clearly are one to cling to small-mindedness if you truly believe (1) that God can't give modern-day revelation or (2) that He chooses not to.

SLC BYU Fan
Salt Lake City, UT

It's been my understanding since 16 months ago that FOX in particular felt troubled about BYU entering the league with such a strict policy particularly if it was only going to reamin at 10 schools. The Big 12 media partners have seeminly indicated BYU would work in that league with 12 or more schools where they have more work-arounds available to them.

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