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Published: Wednesday, Feb. 20 2013 12:00 a.m. MST

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David King
Layton, UT

One of the greatest things about America is each individual has their own voice and can speak for themselves. No American President is my voice. Glenn Beck is not my voice. Chris Matthews is not my voice. I have my own voice and I will speak up when so inclined. Certainly much of the criticism aimed at the President has been unfair to downright ridiculous, but I do think there are things we can be concerned about. I disagree with the President signing laws like the Patriot Act, FISA, the NDAA, and maintaining a "kill" list which has included American citizens. Of course I disagree with George W. Bush for having the same policies. That is why I speak only for myself and consider no politician to be my voice. America is great not because we all share one collective voice or opinion, but because we're allowed to disagree, and we can do so in a respectful manner.

Roland Kayser
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Mr. Davis, I expect that you are going to get a lot of vehement disagreement on this piece. It is a well reasoned piece, which seems to aggravate some people. I'm constantly amazed at people who say that the president is the most radical figure in U.S. history, totally outside the mainstream. Clearly FDR and LBJ were far more radical, heck even Richard Nixon was more radical.

As even some conservatives have pointed out, not only is he not a socialist, he's barely a liberal. Former Reagan and Bush Sr.adviser Bruce Bartlett stated that Obama is quite like Bush Sr. on foreign policy, and quite similar to Nixon on domestic policy. A centrist in other words.

Anyway, it should be a lively debate.

Emajor
Ogden, UT

Once you've decided someone is your enemy, and that you are going to despise them, what they say afterward hardly matters. Everything from that point on will be systematically ignored, modified, or amplified to fit your opinion of that person.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

As much as the repubs don't want to admit it, Obama is America's voice. Otherwise, he wouldn't have won by a landslide. Sorry folks, but the voodoo economics of attacking Iran, giving more tax cuts to business, letting Wall Street run unregulated, cutting earned benefits while letting businesses have more and more entitlements, attacking women, privatizing education, attacking minorities and homosexuals, and no gun regulations isn't what the majority wants.

Don't like it, repubs? Fine, then LEAVE.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

Let's examine one of Mr. Obama's proposals. He wants to raise the minimum wage. Will that help those who earn the minimum wage? Will he demand that prices stay the same even though business owners have to pay more to provide goods and services? Who gets hurt the most when the minimum wage is raised? Isn't it those who receive that wage? Can they buy more gasoline when the gas stations raise their prices to cover their additional costs? Can then buy more food when the farmer, the processor and the stores all pay more for the same job? Can they buy more of anything when all prices go up more than their wage increases? Look at history. Each time the minimum wage has been increased, buying power has been reduced. That kind of help nobody needs.

How about training and providing jobs? When Obama tried to do that last time, EACH job generated cost you and me more than $250,000. Government, especially this administration, cannot create jobs in the private sector.

How about taxing everybody twice, like he does the billionaires? Is that what you want? Most of us will never pay that 2nd tax.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

Fair tax code? Why isn't 47$ of Americans who are paying no federal income taxes high enough for Democrats to secure future election wins?

Emajor
Ogden, UT

Mountanman,
"Why isn't 47$ of Americans who are paying no federal income taxes high enough for Democrats to secure future election wins?"

Apparently not, considering a large portion of that 47% votes Republican. Yes, Republican. I thought the election would have taught us that not everything that came from Mitt Romney's mouth was true.

KJB1
Eugene, OR

Nice for the DN to finally realize that there are other opinions besides Right Wing and Uber-Right Wing. The comments here should definitely be entertaining.

wrz
Ogden, UT

Where to begin...

"... President Barack Obama has been accused of being an alien."

If he won't produce documentation to prove otherwise, we must assume he is. His birth certificate is a doctored sham.

"President Obama proposed tax reform to make our tax system less complicated and fairer."

A political ploy to eventually raise taxes on everyone... starting with those who pay the lion's share of taxes now. Tax increase in a recession kills jobs.

"He urged a plan of tax fairness that doesn't allow billionaires to pay a lower rate than their secretaries."

Millionaires pay mostly capital gains rate to stimulate the economy. The real answer is to lower the secretaries rate... and cut government waste.

"He announced manufacturing hubs to create more high-tech, high paying jobs."

What?

"He proposed raising the minimum wage..."

You don't raise wage rates in a recession. It kills economic growth.

"He urged Congress to fix the immigration system..."

He did this to increase his Democrat base with Hispanics, which is a despicable political ploy.

"... the president urged tough laws to keep criminals from obtaining weapons."

Criminals with guns isn't the problem. Nuts with guns is.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

@ Emajor. Do you really think anyone who does not pay any federal income taxes would NOT vote for Obama? Really?

Nate
Pleasant Grove, UT

Obama is a radical held in check by the provisions of an inspired Constitution. He came in intending to "fundamentally transform" America, and finds it impossible to overcome the many checks and balances designed by the Founders to keep one person from doing too much damage. Not that he hasn't done any, but our course is still correctible.

Obama: "The most important lesson I've learned is that you can't change Washington from the inside."

It ain't over yet, but at this stage of the game it's Founders 1, Obama 0.

Emajor
Ogden, UT

Mountanman,
I don't think it. I know it. Google "politifact romney 48 49 percent".

Blue
Salt Lake City, UT

wrz: "If he won't produce documentation to prove otherwise, we must assume he is. His birth certificate is a doctored sham."

Lovely.

Thanks, wrz, for being the voice of today's GOP base. You go right ahead with that stuff. While you're at it, let's hear your thoughts on biological evolution, flouridating water and the UN.

You're why Republicans are losing elections, and that suits me just fine.

Lew Scannon
Provo, UT

Mntnmn:

Most Utahns who did not pay income tax voted for Romney. Hello.

Richard:

What on earth are you thinking, writing an editorial like this? Heavens, don't you know this is the Deseret News, the paper with a stated mission of having a conservative op-ed section? Get your ducks in a row or you'll be out in the cold, begging for column space in the Trib.

wrz:

Wow. You've drunk the tea straight. No sugar. No lemon. No nuthin.

Thinkin\' Man
Rexburg, ID

I'm one of the 49% of Americans who voted for the other guy.

Obama almost never speaks for me. I disagree with nearly everything he says and does.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

@ EMajor. How do you know? I don't know the number either but I would wager Obama got 90% of the 47% and Romney got less than 10% of that demographic. Why am I so sure? Because Obama won the election and it sure wasn't TAXPAYERS who elected him.

Emajor
Ogden, UT

Mountanman,
I just gave you a search protocol to find that answer. So you can either take 5 minutes and read the article and be somewhat informed on this issue, or you can continue to make "wagers" based on your own biased assumptions about the 330 million citizens of this country. That isn't a wise option in this case because you are most certainly wrong.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

A poll conducted Dec 2012 by Fairleigh Dickinson University found that:

Sixty-three percent of registered voters in the U.S. buy into at least one political conspiracy theory. The nationwide survey of registered voters asked Americans to evaluate four different political conspiracy theories: 56% of Democrats and 75% of Republicans say that at least one is likely true. The most popular of these conspiracy theories is the belief that President Obama is hiding important information about his background and early life, which would include what’s often referred to “birtherism.” Thirty-six percent of Americans think this is probably true, including 64 percent of Republicans and 14 percent of Democrats.

The relationship between current events knowledge and belief in conspiracy theories is conditional on partisanship. Among Democrats, each question answered correctly reduces the likelihood of endorsing at least one of the conspiracy theories by seven points. Among independents, each additional question reduces it by two points. For Republicans, though, each additional question answered correctly tends to increase belief in at least one of the theories by two points.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

It's pointless to argue about who voted for Obama when Bill O'Reilly reported that entire precincts did not have even a single vote cast for Romney. He pointed out that in some precincts more than 100% of the eligible voters somehow voted. He even reported that in one precinct in Florida, more than 250% of the eligible voters voted. He also reported that all of that "over voting" only happened in precincts where voter I.D. was not required.

Nobody will ever know how many votes each candidate actually received and nobody will ever know if those who receive from the government voted as a bloc for Obama.

One thing that we can verify is that Income Tax is not indexed to inflation. Every time the minimum wage goes up, there is a trickle effect that causes everybody to get a raise - because the cost of everything also goes up. Because income taxes are not indexed, all levels of government not only receive more money, but many people are pushed into a higher bracket - without Congress raising taxes.

Of course Obama wants to raise the minimum wage! It's his back-door approach to raising our taxes.

Old49erfan
West Jordan, UT

As a typical politician, Mr. Obama has said/proposed many things and delivered little. But, I forget, its not his fault.

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