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Richard Davis: Obama's voice reflects American values, future

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  • Counter Intelligence Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 25, 2013 3:14 p.m.

    Mr. Davis has a valid point; if only for the reason that a broken clock is still right twice a day. Obama certainly has valid opinions and proposals, as did Jimmy Carter, who never-the-less history has noted as a failed president. It is also possible to prove the world is flat with proper selection of facts. Despite the rose glasses of his supporters; Obama is still leading the USA in the direction of Europe, which is ironic because Europe is failing economically and socially. Obama’s use of class, race, and gender warfare and his unscrupulous Chicago thug campaign tactics combined with religious intolerance and economic suicide designed to overload the system so it can be “transformed” provide a more complete picture.

    @ Emajor
    “Once you've decided someone is your enemy, and that you are going to despise them, what they say afterward hardly matters. Everything from that point on will be systematically ignored, modified, or amplified to fit your opinion of that person.” Try changing the word “you” to “I” – your observation is hardly limited to judgments about Obama. Try reading any post by LDS Liberal

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Feb. 23, 2013 2:41 p.m.

    RedShirt

    USS Enterprise, UT

    To "Truthseeker" so what are you complaining about? You sound like you don't like the fact that Romney obeys tax laws. What sense does that make? You don't like a person who obeys the laws and is not hiding anything from teh government.

    Would you rather that Romney act like Tim Geitner, hiding investments and then claiming that his copy of Turbo Tax didn't really cover everything?
    7:58 a.m. Feb. 22, 2013

    =============

    Romney is still hiding 10+ years of his tax returns.
    When it was HIS own father Goerge who set the national precedence 50 years ago to relase them for public disclosure.

    That sort of secrecy speaks for itself.

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    Feb. 22, 2013 7:58 a.m.

    To "Truthseeker" so what are you complaining about? You sound like you don't like the fact that Romney obeys tax laws. What sense does that make? You don't like a person who obeys the laws and is not hiding anything from teh government.

    Would you rather that Romney act like Tim Geitner, hiding investments and then claiming that his copy of Turbo Tax didn't really cover everything?

  • NeilT Clearfield, UT
    Feb. 21, 2013 7:25 p.m.

    I don't agree with Obama. With that in mind I applaud his courage in writing the article. It is time to have a civil discussion on the issues and stop all this birther nonsense and stop worrying about who does or doesn't pay taxes. Our tax code was written to encourage deductions. Paying no federal taxes doesn't make someone a freeloader or tax cheat. I am beginning to hope for a strong third party candidate with a more reasonbale and non partisan approach. The far right is motivated by anti-government ideology.

  • JayTee Sandy, UT
    Feb. 21, 2013 7:12 p.m.

    I may be naive, but I have never thought that a conflagration spending spree, unlimited Federal control, and $16,000,000,000,000+ official Federal debt was any kind of representation of American values. I understand that some of our citizens think it's the taxpayers' job to give them everything they want and need, but somehow I thought that individual and organizational responsibility might play a role, even in today's America.

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    Feb. 21, 2013 6:25 p.m.

    re:Patriot

    When a stockbroker invests OTHER people's money he pays the standard taxes on the money he earns.
    When Obama, you or I invest OUR OWN money we can use the capital gains tax rate.

    When Mitt Romney invests/ed OTHER people's money he paid 15% on the money he earned due to a nice little tax loophole called "carried interest." Romney also uses the capital gains rate (15%) on money he himself invested.

    The reduction in the capital gains tax rate has increased income inequality.

    Some tax authorities said Mickelson exaggerated and Mickelson did apologize the next day--but is keeping his options open. CA state income tax increased 3% for those making over $250k. Mickelson could move to FLA or TX which doesn't have an income tax. But Mickelson will still pay tax on any prize money he earns in CA. What percent of Mickelson's time is spent playing golf in CA? future? Stay tuned to see what Mickelson ends up doing. My guess he is huddling with his tax preparers/advisors and looking into his options and figuring out what is involved. (btw I'm married to a CPA with a Masters in Business Taxation).

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Feb. 21, 2013 2:06 p.m.

    re:Hutterite

    "The president has fulfilled his mandate with thoughtful, reasonable efforts."

    Spoken like a true Marxist / socialist. Nothing Barack Hussin Obama has done in the past 4.5 nightmarish years has been either thoughtful or reasonable. Is 17 trillion in debt reasonable?

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Feb. 21, 2013 2:01 p.m.

    re:Truthseeker

    Again - Romney pays capital gains tax for the most part from his investments as does Barack Obama and cap gains tax is less percentage simply to encourage investment. Obama was attempting to spin the ridiculous lie that all rich folks pay less percentage than a secretary which is a bald faced lie. Of course the low information voter swallows everything Barack says. Pro golfer Phil Michelson is moving out of California because he is paying nearly 62% of his wages to the government...state and federal. Yes - that is 62%!!! Phil is moving to Texas where our constitution is still observed. Wealthy folks have all sort of legal tricks to find loop holes out of taxes but that doesn't change the IRS CORE TAX TABLES and tax rates based on income. Pull out your 1040 booklet and take a look in the back at the tax tables.

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    Feb. 21, 2013 1:22 p.m.

    To "Richard Davis" unfortunately you are wrong. Obama is not a "new voice" he is the voice of all the failures of the past 100 years. From the commuist revolutionaries who wanted to make things "more fair" for the poor, to FDR's policies that kept us in the great depression for 7 years longer than we should have been, to the failues of Jimmy Carter.

    If Obama wanted to be a "new voice" that actually believed in something other than the philosophies that are taking us towards socialism, he would be speaking more like George Washington and would actually be working towards getting the government out of our lives rather than more involved.

    To "Kent C. DeForrest" is it that they agree with Obama's statements or his actions. Also, which Obama are we talking about? The campaign Obama, or President Obama? His two modes are polar opposites.

  • Kent C. DeForrest Provo, UT
    Feb. 21, 2013 9:21 a.m.

    A new Pew Research Center poll sort of puts the cherry on the top of this fun little conversation. The poll finds that a majority of Americans line up with Obama's positions on almost everything. Perhaps the most revealing number from the poll is that now only 22 percent of Americans identify themselves as Republicans. If this isn't the hallmark of a party on the brink of extinction, then what is? The GOP is so fractured, so anti-intelligence, so ideologically conflicted, and so extreme, its only hope lies in selling an increasingly unmarketable product OR changing it stance on all sorts of issues.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 21, 2013 8:50 a.m.

    Maligning the President totally on all issues is mandatory in conservative circles. That is why they are getting smaller and increasingly political ineffective.

  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 21, 2013 6:35 a.m.

    Rae, can you provide us with the quote where Obama apologized to Arab leaders?

    You know, it's really cool all you people worried about spending. Where were you when W and the Republicans were spending us into this fiscal disaster?

    Obama is not a radical. That is a lie you have been told to control you. There are people that know the gullibility of conservatives, and they are using it for all they are worth.

  • Rae M. Bountiful , UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 11:15 p.m.

    Mr Davis:
    I would like to know how you think apologizing to leaders of Arab countries for Americans is the voice of Americans? Or how that represents American values? To me it's self-explanatory that apologizing for someone is not speaking for them.

  • Lillie Panguitch, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 7:51 p.m.

    The words may sound like they reflect America but what he does and works for do not reflect us at all. My parents taught me to work hard and pay my bills not borrow and spend other peoples money. I was also taught to respect my country and my ancestors especially the vets not do dishonor them. He needs to walk the walk not just talk the talk.

  • mohokat Ogden, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 5:48 p.m.

    His voice reflects Americas future. Oh yea. over $80 billion in new spending. That dog and pony show speech is just that a dog an pony show. Obama should have written that little song give give said the little stream. That is what his trademark is. Give. Not the American way that I know which is work.

  • watchman Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 4:52 p.m.

    Nate:

    "Obama is a radical held in check by the provisions of an inspired Constitution."

    He certainly is a radical but the Constitution is having a difficult time restraining a radical. What he cannot get congress to do he tries to do it with Executive orders and he has done plenty.

    Going around congress with these Executive orders is pretty good evidence of Obama being an arrogant radical that is not good for this country.

    The Obama statements quoted in Davis' article are veiled efforts to fool the people.

  • spring street SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 4:43 p.m.

    to those railing against the President, he may not reflect your values but he clearly (elected twice) reflects the values of the majority of Americans. You have every right to disagree with him shout from the rooftops that he does not reflect your views but it is silly to pretend he does not reflect the majority of Americans views.

  • spring street SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 4:40 p.m.

    @mike richards

    Can bill o riley or you prove his claims? I can claim the world is flat and the moon is made of cheese it does not make it true. we hear these same claims after every election and after every election they investigate and there is no proof to support the claims. it really is time to find a new lie, this one has grown beyond stale.

  • RDD1931 DELAND, FL
    Feb. 20, 2013 4:32 p.m.

    You have got to be kidding!

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    Feb. 20, 2013 4:21 p.m.

    re:patriot
    "Go look it up in the back of your 1040 booklet if you want to see what tax rate a person pays who makes over 250k."

    How/why did Romney manage to pay an income tax rate of 14%?

    Theoretically (ignoring the numerous tax "loopholes) we all pay the same rate on the same level of income. The first $50,000 is taxed at a certain rate etc. A billionaire doesn't pay 40% on all his income, just the portion over $400,000. There are even many millionaires/billionaires who manage to owe zero federal income tax.

  • Go Utes Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 4:05 p.m.

    I don't see any analysis in the article as to Obama's position on social issues or foreign affairs. I am not saying that the analysis would necessarily change (that obviously depends on one's political persuasion), but why were these big areas omitted? Seems that the article should be titled "Obama's economic voice reflects American economic values, future."

    Also, this probably goes beyond the scope of this article, but I would like to see an analysis as to what extent the Republican house has thwarted some of Obama's ambitions: in other words, would Obama be as arguably moderate were the entire Congress comprised of Democrats? If you compare his first two years to his second two years, he has argualy been kept in check to a large extent on some issues.

  • Eric Samuelsen Provo, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 3:56 p.m.

    >David King
    I appreciate your thoughtful response to this column. I suspect that you and I disagree on some issues, but there's no reason we can't have a conversation.
    On one issue, I agree completely with you. The drone program is unconstitutional, and a proven failure. Killing American citizens without due process? Routinely ignore the sovereignty of nations with whom we are at peace, in order to kill their citizens. Unconscionable. The war on terror accomplishes one thing--it is a program for creating more terrorists.

  • wrz Ogden, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 3:46 p.m.

    @Blue:
    "Thanks, wrz, for being the voice of today's GOP base."

    I learned to spout political rhetoric from Democrats. Notice how they are the first to jump on threads favorable to Obama, spouting Democrat talking points, ad nauseum.

    "You're why Republicans are losing elections, and that suits me just fine."

    Here's why Democrats win... They favor: abortion on demand, gay marriage, amnesty for illegals, open borders, unrestrained immigration, government controlled healthcare, and Obama-phones for all. Most of which conduct is abhorrent to Republicans. It's plain the Republicans must hold their collective noses and accept much of the above if they hope to win an election.

    @Lew Scannon: "Wow. You've drunk the tea straight. No sugar. No lemon. No nuthin."

    At least it's tea... not the bootleg liquor the Democrats imbibe.

    @Truthseeker: "The most popular of these conspiracy theories is the belief that President Obama is hiding important information about his background and early life, which would include what’s often referred to 'birtherism.'"

    That's not a theory. It's fact. He refuses to divvy up college papers. Was he a foreign student? And how'd he get a SS card from Connecticut?.

  • Rikitikitavi Cardston, Alberta
    Feb. 20, 2013 3:31 p.m.

    Thank-you Mr. Davis. Clearly, in YOUR view, President Obama is the voice of America, but not for me nor for my family. We all work and we work hard and would like to hold on to a fair portion of what we have worked so hard for. Clearly, Pres. Obama is the voice for wealth re-distribution from those of us who work hard to those who do not work or worse yet to those who WILL NOT work due to their sense of entitlement that you have re-enforced. Bigger, more bloated government....not for me. Already we are seeing the higher taxes which flow from those who work to those who do not and Government is the man in the middle taking a huge share. And you want us to believe Mr.President is the voice of America. How sad it has been in Greece when too many refuse to work and expect all the benefits of the "laborer". Greece, here we come.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 3:03 p.m.

    I'm one that very much disagrees. Mr. Obama does not speak my language. And when a lady from Ohio is bragging that she fraudulently vote for him 6 times, and is proud of it, I worry about the ethics of our voters.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 2:38 p.m.

    Mike Richards
    South Jordan, Utah
    11:44 a.m. Feb. 20, 2013

    It's pointless to argue about who voted for Obama...

    Nobody will ever know how many votes each candidate actually received and nobody will ever know if those who receive from the government voted as a bloc for Obama.

    ===========

    Still not living in reality?
    Obama "stole" the election.
    The vast left-wing conspirasy.
    The lame-stream-media, controlled by the "Democrats" somehow manged to "fool" everyone on planet earth, but you.
    In your heart, and in your mind - Mitt Romney actually won, and should've been the President....

    Sad, to be quite honest.
    but I agree, It's pointless to argue...
    You live in a different reality all together than the rest of us.

  • Aaron S GREEN RIVER, WY
    Feb. 20, 2013 2:25 p.m.

    Obama CERTAINLY reflects America's values (more's the pity): we no longer have any.

  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 2:02 p.m.

    Richards, did you ever think about looking into those claims that O'Rielly made? No, of course you didn't. They sounded strange to me, so I did. Thank goodness I have a well developed sense of skepticism. Needless to say O'Rielly was very mistaken. Imagine that, Bill O'Rielly got something wrong. Again.

    Mountainman, you are wrong. And you base your opinion on nothing but: no taxpayer would vote for Obama. Sad.

    Conservatives have become such a sad people.

  • Lew Scannon Provo, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 1:57 p.m.

    Mike:

    Bill O'Reilly? Certainly the source of all unbiased truth in the universe. Get over the sour grapes. This isn't Russia or Iran.

    Romney didn't lose because of illegal voting or stuffed ballot boxes. He lost because (1) he bent too far to the right to please the tea party and alienated millions of moderates, (2) he was dishonest (of course, so was Obama, but Romney's lies were more outrageous and easily exposed), (3) he kept sticking his foot in his mouth, (4) he never gave any specifics about how he would cut spending, (5) Republican ideas appealed to a shrinking minority of Americans, and (6) he showed that he was willing to say virtually anything and take any stand just to get elected (look at his history and tell me who he really is).

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 1:38 p.m.

    The president has fulfilled his mandate with thoughtful, reasonable efforts.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 1:22 p.m.

    Obama's voice reflects Americans values is silly talk and laughable. Holy smokes - the man is a socialist for pete sake. This article is not worth the printing.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 1:16 p.m.

    " He urged a plan of tax fairness that doesn't allow billionaires to pay a lower rate than their secretaries." This is nonsense. Buffet doesn't pay a lower tax rate than his secretary. This is all political spin and lies which Barack is expert at. The bulk of what tax rate Barack was referring to with Buffet is the capital gains tax and NOT the normal tax rate for normal income. Go look it up in the back of your 1040 booklet if you want to see what tax rate a person pays who makes over 250k. It is nearly 40%. Buffets secretary pays around 20%. Also as for the other things Barack talked about in his state of the union side show - realize the man will NOT put his name behind ANYTHING. He will not take ownership of anything because he doesn't want to govern...just campaign.

  • Ralph West Jordan Taylorsville, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 12:57 p.m.

    Re: Mountain Man, Mike Richards and WTZ

    The third comment posted in this thread at 6:21 AM by Emajor says it all!

  • bandersen Saint George, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 12:36 p.m.

    I beg to differ with the author's intent. A continuation of socialistic policies at the expense of freedom is not inspiring. We need leaders that tell the truth and replace fear with faith. The President getting 'tough laws to keep criminals from obtaining weapons' is absolutely astounding coming from a university professor. I would love to hear him tell his students with a straight face that criminals will cease getting weapons once a 'tough' gun law is passed. Is this the height of ignorace or wilful destruction of a second amendment right? As far as a decent wage, this type of drivil comes from those at the top of the income scale, as if raising the minimum wage is going to do anything but keep someone in poverty. It doesn't matter whether he responds by saying, 'at least it is something', what we need is someone advocating policies that lift rather than put them in bondage to a 'benevolent' government. Come, Prof., you can do better than this.

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    Feb. 20, 2013 12:00 p.m.

    A 2006 Tax Foundation analysis of IRS data found strong correlation between a state's average family income and its percentage of households with no federal tax liability. The analysis found that the five states with the highest percentage of households paying no federal income tax for 2005 were Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas, New Mexico and Alabama. According to 2005 data from the federal Bureau of Economic Analysis, those states' ranks in per-capita income were, respectively, 49th, 50th, 48th, 46th and 40th. That same year, the five states with the lowest percentage of households paying no federal income tax were Alaska, Massachusetts, Connecticut, New Hampshire and Minnesota. In per-capita income, those states ranked, respectively, 16th, second, first, sixth and ninth.

  • Old49erfan West Jordan, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 11:48 a.m.

    As a typical politician, Mr. Obama has said/proposed many things and delivered little. But, I forget, its not his fault.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    Feb. 20, 2013 11:44 a.m.

    It's pointless to argue about who voted for Obama when Bill O'Reilly reported that entire precincts did not have even a single vote cast for Romney. He pointed out that in some precincts more than 100% of the eligible voters somehow voted. He even reported that in one precinct in Florida, more than 250% of the eligible voters voted. He also reported that all of that "over voting" only happened in precincts where voter I.D. was not required.

    Nobody will ever know how many votes each candidate actually received and nobody will ever know if those who receive from the government voted as a bloc for Obama.

    One thing that we can verify is that Income Tax is not indexed to inflation. Every time the minimum wage goes up, there is a trickle effect that causes everybody to get a raise - because the cost of everything also goes up. Because income taxes are not indexed, all levels of government not only receive more money, but many people are pushed into a higher bracket - without Congress raising taxes.

    Of course Obama wants to raise the minimum wage! It's his back-door approach to raising our taxes.

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    Feb. 20, 2013 11:30 a.m.

    A poll conducted Dec 2012 by Fairleigh Dickinson University found that:

    Sixty-three percent of registered voters in the U.S. buy into at least one political conspiracy theory. The nationwide survey of registered voters asked Americans to evaluate four different political conspiracy theories: 56% of Democrats and 75% of Republicans say that at least one is likely true. The most popular of these conspiracy theories is the belief that President Obama is hiding important information about his background and early life, which would include what’s often referred to “birtherism.” Thirty-six percent of Americans think this is probably true, including 64 percent of Republicans and 14 percent of Democrats.

    The relationship between current events knowledge and belief in conspiracy theories is conditional on partisanship. Among Democrats, each question answered correctly reduces the likelihood of endorsing at least one of the conspiracy theories by seven points. Among independents, each additional question reduces it by two points. For Republicans, though, each additional question answered correctly tends to increase belief in at least one of the theories by two points.

  • Emajor Ogden, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 11:14 a.m.

    Mountanman,
    I just gave you a search protocol to find that answer. So you can either take 5 minutes and read the article and be somewhat informed on this issue, or you can continue to make "wagers" based on your own biased assumptions about the 330 million citizens of this country. That isn't a wise option in this case because you are most certainly wrong.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Feb. 20, 2013 10:40 a.m.

    @ EMajor. How do you know? I don't know the number either but I would wager Obama got 90% of the 47% and Romney got less than 10% of that demographic. Why am I so sure? Because Obama won the election and it sure wasn't TAXPAYERS who elected him.

  • Thinkin\' Man Rexburg, ID
    Feb. 20, 2013 9:54 a.m.

    I'm one of the 49% of Americans who voted for the other guy.

    Obama almost never speaks for me. I disagree with nearly everything he says and does.

  • Lew Scannon Provo, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 9:13 a.m.

    Mntnmn:

    Most Utahns who did not pay income tax voted for Romney. Hello.

    Richard:

    What on earth are you thinking, writing an editorial like this? Heavens, don't you know this is the Deseret News, the paper with a stated mission of having a conservative op-ed section? Get your ducks in a row or you'll be out in the cold, begging for column space in the Trib.

    wrz:

    Wow. You've drunk the tea straight. No sugar. No lemon. No nuthin.

  • Blue Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 9:08 a.m.

    wrz: "If he won't produce documentation to prove otherwise, we must assume he is. His birth certificate is a doctored sham."

    Lovely.

    Thanks, wrz, for being the voice of today's GOP base. You go right ahead with that stuff. While you're at it, let's hear your thoughts on biological evolution, flouridating water and the UN.

    You're why Republicans are losing elections, and that suits me just fine.

  • Emajor Ogden, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 9:03 a.m.

    Mountanman,
    I don't think it. I know it. Google "politifact romney 48 49 percent".

  • Nate Pleasant Grove, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 8:28 a.m.

    Obama is a radical held in check by the provisions of an inspired Constitution. He came in intending to "fundamentally transform" America, and finds it impossible to overcome the many checks and balances designed by the Founders to keep one person from doing too much damage. Not that he hasn't done any, but our course is still correctible.

    Obama: "The most important lesson I've learned is that you can't change Washington from the inside."

    It ain't over yet, but at this stage of the game it's Founders 1, Obama 0.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Feb. 20, 2013 8:21 a.m.

    @ Emajor. Do you really think anyone who does not pay any federal income taxes would NOT vote for Obama? Really?

  • wrz Ogden, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 8:17 a.m.

    Where to begin...

    "... President Barack Obama has been accused of being an alien."

    If he won't produce documentation to prove otherwise, we must assume he is. His birth certificate is a doctored sham.

    "President Obama proposed tax reform to make our tax system less complicated and fairer."

    A political ploy to eventually raise taxes on everyone... starting with those who pay the lion's share of taxes now. Tax increase in a recession kills jobs.

    "He urged a plan of tax fairness that doesn't allow billionaires to pay a lower rate than their secretaries."

    Millionaires pay mostly capital gains rate to stimulate the economy. The real answer is to lower the secretaries rate... and cut government waste.

    "He announced manufacturing hubs to create more high-tech, high paying jobs."

    What?

    "He proposed raising the minimum wage..."

    You don't raise wage rates in a recession. It kills economic growth.

    "He urged Congress to fix the immigration system..."

    He did this to increase his Democrat base with Hispanics, which is a despicable political ploy.

    "... the president urged tough laws to keep criminals from obtaining weapons."

    Criminals with guns isn't the problem. Nuts with guns is.

  • KJB1 Eugene, OR
    Feb. 20, 2013 8:10 a.m.

    Nice for the DN to finally realize that there are other opinions besides Right Wing and Uber-Right Wing. The comments here should definitely be entertaining.

  • Emajor Ogden, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 8:05 a.m.

    Mountanman,
    "Why isn't 47$ of Americans who are paying no federal income taxes high enough for Democrats to secure future election wins?"

    Apparently not, considering a large portion of that 47% votes Republican. Yes, Republican. I thought the election would have taught us that not everything that came from Mitt Romney's mouth was true.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Feb. 20, 2013 7:51 a.m.

    Fair tax code? Why isn't 47$ of Americans who are paying no federal income taxes high enough for Democrats to secure future election wins?

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    Feb. 20, 2013 7:25 a.m.

    Let's examine one of Mr. Obama's proposals. He wants to raise the minimum wage. Will that help those who earn the minimum wage? Will he demand that prices stay the same even though business owners have to pay more to provide goods and services? Who gets hurt the most when the minimum wage is raised? Isn't it those who receive that wage? Can they buy more gasoline when the gas stations raise their prices to cover their additional costs? Can then buy more food when the farmer, the processor and the stores all pay more for the same job? Can they buy more of anything when all prices go up more than their wage increases? Look at history. Each time the minimum wage has been increased, buying power has been reduced. That kind of help nobody needs.

    How about training and providing jobs? When Obama tried to do that last time, EACH job generated cost you and me more than $250,000. Government, especially this administration, cannot create jobs in the private sector.

    How about taxing everybody twice, like he does the billionaires? Is that what you want? Most of us will never pay that 2nd tax.

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 6:28 a.m.

    As much as the repubs don't want to admit it, Obama is America's voice. Otherwise, he wouldn't have won by a landslide. Sorry folks, but the voodoo economics of attacking Iran, giving more tax cuts to business, letting Wall Street run unregulated, cutting earned benefits while letting businesses have more and more entitlements, attacking women, privatizing education, attacking minorities and homosexuals, and no gun regulations isn't what the majority wants.

    Don't like it, repubs? Fine, then LEAVE.

  • Emajor Ogden, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 6:21 a.m.

    Once you've decided someone is your enemy, and that you are going to despise them, what they say afterward hardly matters. Everything from that point on will be systematically ignored, modified, or amplified to fit your opinion of that person.

  • Roland Kayser Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 12:46 a.m.

    Mr. Davis, I expect that you are going to get a lot of vehement disagreement on this piece. It is a well reasoned piece, which seems to aggravate some people. I'm constantly amazed at people who say that the president is the most radical figure in U.S. history, totally outside the mainstream. Clearly FDR and LBJ were far more radical, heck even Richard Nixon was more radical.

    As even some conservatives have pointed out, not only is he not a socialist, he's barely a liberal. Former Reagan and Bush Sr.adviser Bruce Bartlett stated that Obama is quite like Bush Sr. on foreign policy, and quite similar to Nixon on domestic policy. A centrist in other words.

    Anyway, it should be a lively debate.

  • David King Layton, UT
    Feb. 20, 2013 12:39 a.m.

    One of the greatest things about America is each individual has their own voice and can speak for themselves. No American President is my voice. Glenn Beck is not my voice. Chris Matthews is not my voice. I have my own voice and I will speak up when so inclined. Certainly much of the criticism aimed at the President has been unfair to downright ridiculous, but I do think there are things we can be concerned about. I disagree with the President signing laws like the Patriot Act, FISA, the NDAA, and maintaining a "kill" list which has included American citizens. Of course I disagree with George W. Bush for having the same policies. That is why I speak only for myself and consider no politician to be my voice. America is great not because we all share one collective voice or opinion, but because we're allowed to disagree, and we can do so in a respectful manner.