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Published: Thursday, Feb. 14 2013 12:05 a.m. MST

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one old man
Ogden, UT

If the GOP is not extreme, then why is that party responsible for most of the increasing deficit? Why are they so hateful toward senior citizens and others who make up that awful 47%? If they support personal freedoms, why are they considering banning smoking in cars by parents of children riding in the cars? (Although I guess we could argue that we are protecting the children.)

If the GOP is not extreme, why do they jump and then ask for permission to come down when the Eagle Forum squawks?

That letter was right on the spot.

Ajax
Mapleton, UT

Lest we lose our way in our discussion of political extremism, we need to understand that its usage in American English refers to, "Any political theory favoring immoderate uncompromising policies."

Immoderate (beyond reasonable limits) and uncompromising are unfortunately pervasive qualities across our political landscape but nowadays seem particularly apt in describing the political maneuvering of the far right and its affect on key issues of our nation.

To flatly reject any and all federal efforts at reasonable gun control seriously curtails any solution to the critical issue of gun violence in America.

To categorically reject a path to legality for undocumented immigrants (absolutely no amnesty for anyone) or to insist that the Mexican border be completely sealed prior to any negotiation on immigration is to totally undermine any possibility of immigration reform.

And under a façade of ideological gamesmanship, to absolutely insist on no change to taxes in negotiating a reasonable and comprehensive national financial package is a known nonstarter, sadly seeking political gain at the expense of our national interest.

That, my friends, is extremism.

Mike in Cedar City
Cedar City, Utah

Extreme..? Lets see... who is it that wants mandatory invasive sonograms? Who wants a "personhood amendment" that would ban most forms of contraception? Who is it that won't permit reasonable gun controls in the face of the slaughter that is goin on? Who is it that thinks that the oil companies, and corporations should be subsidized and excluded from paying taxs, while the poor can't be permitted a decent minimum wage? Who is it the grinds their heel in the face of the poor while hiding behind the concept of "personal responsibility"? Who was that pushed the notion of trickle down economics, while pushing deregulation the financial sector that led directly to the crash of 2008? Who is it that thinks that a treaty to assist disabled persons overseas will marginalize school children in Utah? Who was it that was willing to risk the full faith and credit of the United States by blocking action on the deficit limit? Not extreme? If you think that, you must be from a different universe. Who is it that thinks that 47% of us are deadbeats. Well, let me clue you in, it ain't the democrats.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

Many Germans were saying the same thing in the 30s. Nazism isn't "too" extreme.

Difficult to change when you have your head so far into the clouds claiming that you are RIGHT and that you NEVER should compromise. All totalitarian movements pride themselves on their lack of compromise.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Please Mr. McDonald, which of these positions do you find "extreme"?
Fred L. Greer

OK, let’s start with abortion,
you oppose any and all abortions – even for rape, incest, life of the woman = extreme.

deficit spending – Bush, TARP, 2 unfunded wars, Medicare D?,

media bias, - FauxNews. Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck?

excessive executive orders – please?

open national borders – Obama has had more going home, than coming in.

We support: a strong military, - and start offensive wars of aggression and make up lies to justify it.

free markets (capitalism), - offloading to Communist Red China,

above all, the U.S. Constitution – Patriot Act?

Extremism?

Archie Bunker was less extreme than today's GOP.

Try being honest with yourself.
Before the Republican Party vanishes to a mere dot of singularity.

Irony Guy
Bountiful, Utah

Extreme or moderate doesn't matter much when it comes to Republicanism, which consists of: bought-and-paid-for government, buyer beware, short-term exploitation of our resources, no concern for the environment, glorification of guns, and most of all WAR. Republican party exists to keep the military-industrial complex in business by occupying 27 foreign countries and bombing small countries to rubble, while charging all costs to the taxpayer's credit card. An extreme Republican is just one who is extremely in favor of these things.

Twin Lights
Louisville, KY

Reference the writer's list of issues:
abortion - Okay, I hold similar views.
deficit spending vs. the national debt - Again, I hold similar views.
media bias - You have to be kidding. Yes, some national media sources tilt left but Fox (a huge national media source) is pedal to the metal on the right.
excessive executive orders - No. Read your history. Obama has been slow here. This is a myth.
recess appointments - he got his hand slapped on some but other presidents have used recess appointments.
open national borders - Again, you have to be kidding. We got to where we are over several decades. Obama's record here is much better than his predecessors. Not perfect, but better.
increasingly bloated federal government – This one always comes down to which side of the govt. you want to bloat. As in the next point – a strong military.
voter identification – I kind of agree but I think it is a losing issue for the GOP. We look like we are trying to stop people from voting who should vote (never a good stance).
free markets (capitalism) – Obama could do better.
I am out of space.

Ultra Bob
Cottonwood Heights, UT

My view of political extremism is when a person criticizes his opposition in the most virulent ways for doing the same things that he himself is guilty of.

CHS 85
Sandy, UT

Please continue down the same path, GOP. Insist that you aren't extreme and that everyone "agrees" with you.

Worked great in November, right?

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Pres. Obama could cure cancer, balance the budget, end all wars, and raise the dead....and some Republicans would STILL view everything he does as wrong, bad, and evil.

THAT is called extremism.

Badgerbadger
Murray, UT

Here are some of the stupidest comments I have ever seen. Do you really know people who believe these things? Where are the masses of republicans who want these programs you claim they want? They don't exist. I live in the most conservative state in the union and hang out with conservatives and I hear no calls for such programs, and policies.

Do your liberal chums hang out together and imagine what the republicans are thinking? I know you don't hang out with them because you don't even know them.

Do the majority of liberals really believe these lies? If so there is a totally delusional class of people.

And as a side note, How is a sonogram invasive to a person who is seeking to have dilation instruments, scalpels, and suction hoses inserted 8+ inches deep into their body?

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

Extreme?

republicons calling for a fillibuster on Chuck Hagel...

Chuck Hagel is...

A Republican decorated Viet Nam Veteran...

A Republican wounded in action...

A former Republican Senator from Nebraska.

A Republican successful businessman.

So, we have for the first time in the history of our country a presidential nominee for secretary of defense has been fillibustered.

I'd call that extreme.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

The unstated position where many of their caucus want to drive us into the debt ceiling limit without increase which would destroy our economy.

Crusader
Layton, UT

In the case of the Tea Party, extreme would mean unwilling to compromise.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

Actually, Mike in Cedar City gave a pretty comprehensive list which should suffice.

Blue
Salt Lake City, UT

The letter writer represents the views held by 30% of the public and 90% of the editorial staff of this newspaper and FOX.

Bully for you guys.

Meanwhile, the rest of the nation sees important work to be done and is getting down to business.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

@Mike in Cedar City
Cedar City, Utah
Extreme..? Lets see...

Agreed.
Add to it…

“Legitimate” rape victims spontaneously abort.
God intended rape victims pregnancies.
Rape victims should make lemonade from lemons.
The earth is 6,000 years old.
Global Warming is a hoax.
Reproduction and Evolution should not be taught in school.
No weapon restrictions, and no Back-Ground checks.
Muslims can't have freedom of religion [a Cultural center].
Birthers.

And the GOP rakes Gov. Bobby Jindal over the coals for saying that the GOP needs to stop being the Party of Stupid.

Extremeism.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Meanwhile --

I have to laugh everytime I hear the GOP extremists saying the reason the GOP is getting smaller and winning less is because the GOP is not extreme ENOUGH !

THAT is the definition of extreme.

What in Tucket?
Provo, UT

Chuck Hagel is a third rate politician with terrible principles. we do not want him, is that clear? A balanced budget, less government, lower taxes is the only way to prosperity.

Counter Intelligence
Salt Lake City, UT

To flatly reject any and all criticism of Hollywood’s glorification of violence (while Obama simultaneously profiteers from campaign donations from those who profiteer from violence) is a guarantee of further violence in America.

To categorically reject any restriction on abortion, as expressed by the Democratic Party platform, even restrictions on late term of gender based abortion, is extremist.

To claim to be pro-choice while simultaneously eliminating conscience clauses allowing doctors pharmacists and hospitals to opt out of providing abortion, or demanding insurance paying for abortofacient drugs is dramatically hypocritical because there can be No choice if No is not an option

And under a façade of ideological gamesmanship, to absolutely insist on no reduction in spending for any entitlement program, sadly seeking political gain at the expense of our national interest.

That, my friends, is extremism.

This letter is absolutely correct, as evidence by the wildly hypocritical wailings of the usual suspects.

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