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Published: Wednesday, Feb. 13 2013 12:00 a.m. MST

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Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

Many support guns.

But are against a background check.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

It is ironic that Dorner was a staunch Obama and Hillary supporter. If he had been a supporter of conservatives, what would the left say? All quiet on the left today when one of their own goes viral in their hatred toward the establishment! No political spin from the left today? Several innocent people dead and no calls for more gun control today? No claims of blatant racism today? Where are Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton?

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

"One of the most disturbing phenomena of modern life is the tendency by some to feel sympathy for criminal acts. This tendency dates back at least to the Great Depression,"

Sorry but Say what? Man's history of cheering the noble criminal goes way back beyond that. Take Robin of Nottingham woods - who stole from the rich - to give to the poor. Or even the crowds who would gather for Klan lynchings, where people were hung and burned for the simple crime of being black. The Klan was viewed as the protecters of a life style, holding public parades, all the while just being a bunch of lawless thugs intent on terrorizing a particular class of people.

The means that Dorner used are clearly unacceptable - and wrong. There is no debate in that. But one has to wonder, with a history of LAPD being out of control, how much of what he claimed was true. Alas, we will never know as he was allegedly died being burned in a cabin in the mountains... and any chatter of investigating his claims will surely silently fade away..

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

New low Mountainman..who possibly knew or cared who this guy voted for? PS..Al Sharpton had over an hour show yesterday tracking the ongoings including this mad mans demise.

omni scent
taylorsville, UT

Mountainman: in his manifesto, he said George H. W. Bush is one of his favorite presidents of all time, and Chris Christie is his top pick for president in 2016. I'm sorry that the facts conflict with your worldview of conservative = good, liberal = bad.

Ultra Bob
Cottonwood Heights, UT

It is natural the many Americans will favor the underdog when only the side of the government is known. While we have a tendency to favor little over big as part of being human, the distrust of government is constantly being pounding into our minds by our main media. That along with the bad reputation of police in policing their own makes the Dorner case suspect.

While we need to allow public servants to do their job without undue interference from the public, the information about the Dorner case should be given to the public because of the notoriety already given it. To withhold this is as bad for the police reputation as if the police were at fault.

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

"It is ironic that Dorner was a staunch Obama and Hillary supporter"

Well THAT changes everything - NOT. Makes absolutely no diff to me. Guy got what he deserved regardless of who he voted for.

And BTW? Universal background checks still make as much sense today as when the NRA called for it and ran ads for in the past.

one old man
Ogden, UT

MM -- What?????

Where did you get that "information?"

Documentation please.

Hemlock
Salt Lake City, UT

Dorner was not an underdog. He murdered uninvolved, innocent people and is by definition a terrorist. Anyone lionizing him is tragically misguided. He pushed back race relations because of his own inadequacies.

Mukkake
Salt Lake City, UT

[One of the most disturbing phenomena of modern life is the tendency by some to feel sympathy for criminal acts.]
[One law enforcement officer was killed and another wounded. These are people sworn to uphold the law and protect the public.]

Just out of curiosity... How is this any different than the American colonists opening fire on and killing British Law Enforcement in 1775?

Mukkake
Salt Lake City, UT

Hemlock:
[He pushed back race relations because of his own inadequacies.]

Only for people who were already racist.

Seriously, how backward do you have to be to still talk about "race relations"?

byufan1993
Provo, , UT

Mukkake

The "British Law Enforcement" were not the same as police officers. They were army men. Also they weren't attacked while they were in their homes and completely innocent. This is cold-blooded murder. That was a war and they were just as prepared if not more prepared than our troops. The victims in this case were practically defenseless.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Mountanman
Hayden, ID
It is ironic that Dorner was a staunch Obama and Hillary supporter.
5:56 a.m. Feb. 13, 2013

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What Tin-Foiled-Hat on-line rag are you reading Mountanman?

I didn't even hear anything that outrageous on Glenn Beck this morning on my way into work.

BTW - since YOU brought it up,
omni scent is right [making you - once again - squarely wrong]
I too read his manifesto, and George H. W. Bush is one of his favorite presidents of all time, and Chris Christie is his top pick for president in 2016.

You better be willing and able to back up your outrageous claims with verifiable facts and data.
This ISN'T talk radio.

Diet-Mormon
Cache county, USA

It's amazing the way people are shot down by the DN moderators.
We have some folks that are clearly off the reservation and trying to evoke flat out war on this site.
Then there are folks who state simple truths that don't defy any comment rules.
The DN is taking big brother to a whole new level.
Pro gun rights, anti dorner out.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

FYI
Mountanman
Hayden, ID
5:56 a.m. Feb. 13, 2013

ConservativeTreeHouse - perhaps?

Anyway
I really loved this line from his manifesto:

"In my cache you will find several small arms. In the cache, Bushmaster firearms, Remington precision rifles, and AAC Suppressors (silencers). All of these small arms are manufactured by Cerberus/Freedom Group. The same company responsible for the Portland mall shooting, Webster , NY, and Sandy Hook massacre."

common sense55
Springville, UT

He mentioned many celebrities/politicians on both sides of the aisle. The problem isn't with his political preferences, it's that a mentally disturbed man was pushed over the edge. Crazy people exist on both sides of politics, but to address the issues, we need to stop thinking that a person's political views make them prone to act out with violence.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

common sense55
Springville, UT

...The problem isn't with his political preferences, it's that a mentally disturbed man was pushed over the edge. Crazy people exist on both sides of politics, but to address the issues, we need to stop thinking that a person's political views make them prone to act out with violence.

12:20 p.m. Feb. 13, 2013

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Agreed.
There are mentally distrubed and Crazy people who go over the edge from time to time on both sides of politic aisle.

Now, back to business and the issues that deal directly to the matter:
Where are we with that back-ground check legislation conservative Republicans refuse to address?...

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@Mountanman
"Several innocent people dead and no calls for more gun control today?"

Obama demanding a vote on gun control legislation last night wasn't enough for you?

NedGrimley
Brigham City, UT

LDS: "Where are we with that back-ground check legislation conservative Republicans refuse to address?..."

Background checks would certainly have averted this problem...

Aggielove
Cache county, USA

CNN panel quoted in saying, this Dorner thing, is like watching a Denzel Washington movie.
They are actually excited to watch this take place.
And they want gun control.
This is why People dislike folks on both sides of the isle.

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