Published: Sunday, Feb. 10 2013 12:00 a.m. MST
America should take some responsibility for the violence created by the
entertainment industry. We're consumers; we buy this stuff. And these
arguments are obfuscations; side shows that try to deflect attention from the
violent nature a free for all gun culture instills in our society.
Violence has a reason. And that reason is usually hate. While depiction of
violence might trigger a persons method of violence the true cause for the
violence is hate. The political hate pumps on TV and radio are
probably the root cause of much of today’s hate. The competition between
the warring factions of businessmen is fierce to the point of using every
opportunity to create fear and distrust of the others. It is not so
much that the propaganda dispensed calls for violence but that it plays upon
weaker minds, taking away proper judgment and creating a lethal weapon out of a
person himself. Other hate pumps may be the failures of the
economic system, personal relationships and a thousand other things. All of
these need our attention if we are to actually reduce the incidence of violence
The entertainment industry will cop to this 16 seconds after Wall St admits to
being Greedy, self-absorbed clowns who nearly wrecked the global economy.
"It is time for the entertainment industry to take responsibility for
creating and adding to violence in America. "Well Lisa, Welcome
to American Capitalism. The entertainment industry is doing what they believe
will make them the most profit.So, we either live with what they
produce and vote with your pocketbook, or regulate them.What do you
Personally I think it's about time the greeks and others took some
responsibility for violent trash like the Illyd, or the Odyssey. and how about
Jewish epic the old testemant?
I can't remember ever being forced to attend a movie or being chained to a
chair and forced to watch television. Personal choice is what we should be
discussing. Just because someone in Hollywood used his agency to produce a
violent product does not mean that we have to use our agency to buy that
product.Let's put the real blame and the real responsibility
where it belongs - with the individual. Many of us living in Utah have been
advised to spend Monday evenings with our families and to use that time to grow
together as a family. We have also been advised to use part of that time to
help our children understand how to make proper decisions - and the natural
consequences that follow every decision that we make. In our family, we used
some of that time to discuss movies, music and other entertainment. If no one supported violent movies and violent TV shows, just how long would
those types of entertainment continue to be produced?
Lisa, I do disagree pretty strongly. Surely you know that depiction does not
suggest advocacy, and that it's perfectly possible for violent images to be
used to attack actual violence. I would agree that Hollywood films promote a
completely unrealistic fantasy about what constitutes heroism. But let's
make something like Taken 2 the poster child for Hollywood violence, not a film
like Django Unchained, a deconstruction of violent narratives.
We should remember that the entertainment business is just that- a business.
All the stuff about art from directors and producers is great but, first and
last, movies must make money to keep being made. They'll keep making
violent movies as long as the moviegoing public keeps throwing money away to
watch them. As a public we mourn the deaths from violence, demand that
something be done to stop it, then tune into ever more violent television
programming and buy tickets to ever more violent films. We live in a
violence-soaked culture of our own making.
@MikeRichards"Many of us living in Utah have been advised to
spend Monday evenings with our families and to use that time to grow together as
a family."How's that working? That same group warns against
the dangers of pornography. Utah has the highest internet porn rate in the
country, with the "family values", Utah County crowd, leading the State.
There is another intersting side to this coin. HOw often do we hear the
majority of Eagle Scouts and Seminary and Institute graduates go on a mission
and get married in the temple. That is true, However I wonder is the reason
that is true is because the type of people that graduate from Seminary and
INstitute and are EAgles are the types that would go on missions and get married
in the temple.Same for violence, It may have an effect However I
wonder if the same type of people that watch pornography and violent movies are
the same type that are violent. Just happen to watch movies that depict what
they do in real life. Not everyone that watches violent movies is that way.
Just wonder if the same type of people that watch violent movies are more
inclined to violence anyway. After all Ghenghis Kahn, Adolf
HItler, JOseph Stalin did violent movies cause there violence?
So Lisa, you've seen some graphic, disturbing scenes on TV, were you
tempted to go out and commit violent acts? Probably not. It is my opinion that
those that are tempted to react from these imagines are already unstable, have
mental health issues or both. Not sure you can 'blame' movies, video
games, TV or music.
OK --I blame Bugs Bunny and the 3 Stooges.There, you feel better.Do you really think Hollywood is responsible?How about the $$$Copmpanies only make those movies because they make money.Are you
suggesting "Socialism", and limit free market capitalism?Good Luck
getting the Right-wingers to support you there.And to answer the
letter wroter question:Which stars are willing to take up this
"cause"?I don't know - but Bruce Willis is a hardcore
Pro-Gun Advocate, so you can count the Pro-Gun people out.Mike
Richards -- You are once again suggesting making Family Home Evening an
American requirement.I'm still against you for it.
Mike Richards...I agree with the need for personal responsibility.
Liberal,As you know, God chooses one spokesman at a time to
represent Him to the entire world, just as He has always done. Few people
listen to God's prophets. That does not excuse anyone who ignores
God's spokesman. God's spokesman was instructed to present FHE to the
world. You may feel that the Prophet only speaks to fourteen-million people.
God disagrees with you. God gave us agency and He will require an
accounting from each of us on our use of that agency. Using the excuse that
Hollywood offered a product is not a reason to misuse our agency. Since the
time of Cain, mankind has misused agency. All are accountable. None are
exempt. Passing the blame to those who produce and distribute products not only
shows contempt for the great gift of agency but also is an admission that we are
incapable of controlling ourselves.
Movies don't kill people. Guns do.
Nice attempt at deflection Lisa but still to buying it. shall we get back to
talking about sensible gun regulation then?
@mike richards why are you trying to lay this at the feet of
"liberals" hatred for all things hollywood is clearly a right of passage
for most conservatives. I do appreciate that you finally recognize in at least
this one area that you need to respect others free agency to bad you fail to
extend beyond this one issue.
Spring Street,My 7:08 comment was a response to LDS Liberals' 3:50
p.m. comment. There are both liberals and conservatives who are
guilty of producing violent or sexually suggestive movies and television shows.
There are both liberals and conservatives who are guilty of producing movies
that mock the family, that mock religion, that teach children to mock their
parents. There are very few producers who make movies that show good functioning
stable families that solve problems without violence. There are few producers
who make movies showing men and women happily married.We all know
better than to support those producers who degrade society, but few have the
personal courage to boycott those movies and television shows.
Joe Blow: "Well Lisa, Welcome to American Capitalism. The entertainment
industry is doing what they believe will make them the most profit."If that were really true, then they would create far less violent movies
and far more family friendly movies because the latter make far more money at
the box office than the former.They also wouldn't fight tooth
and nail to prevent editing of their movies so that they are better suited to a
much wider audience (i.e. make more money).Hollywood certainly likes
making money, but if they have to choose between a little less filth for a bit
more money and keeping the filth in and making a little less, they seem to vote
for the filth every time.
Mike RichardsSouth Jordan, UtahMike, You want Free
Markets, and are against Socialism.Then, You do a complete
180, and want Government to get involved, and ban violent movies from
Hollywood.Which is it?BTW - Socialist coutries CAN and
DO censor sex and violence in the media.So, Are you for or against it?
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