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Published: Saturday, Feb. 9 2013 12:00 a.m. MST

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Far East USA, SC

Great letter and on the money.

And I hope that the GOP finds its way. We need a strong, 2-party system.

But some of the candidates that the T-party pushes are unelectable and unacceptable in general elections.

Maybe more importantly - GOP candidates (Romney is a perfect example) have to pander to the far right to win the nomination.

After all that pandering, the moderates and independents are scared off.

Ogden, UT

Well said, and exactly right.

Roland Kayser
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Richard Nixon started the EPA, OSHA, and the NOAA. He proposed a national healthcare plan somewhat similar to Obama's except that it required employers to pick up almost all of the costs. He proposed a national guaranteed minimum income plan that was probably the most socialistic proposal any American president has ever put forward. He began the first federal affirmative action program.

In short, Richard Nixon was definitely to the left of President Obama. That gives you an idea of how far right the Republican party has gone.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

To those who have forgotten the purpose of the Federal Government, any politician who does not promise a new car in every garage and a steak for every dinner is "extreme".

The Federal Government has few duties. It was never authorized to "give" us Social Security or Medicare or Obamacare. It was never authorized to "give" us any item of personal welfare; yet, the liberals have built their entire program on "freebies" and unauthorized spending.

The Federal Government has a very simple job. It is there to protect the States from enemies, both foreign and domestic, and to make it possible for the States to work together in harmony. Most other duties are left to the States or to the people.

When a government over-reaches, those in power will call anyone who impedes their expansion "extremists".

It's easy to see who the "extremists" really are - they are those who mock the Constitution by stating that they have the power to do whatever they want. Our government has followed the path of many churches whose "priests" have abandoned doctrine while chasing "donations". Obama will "give" us anything as he gives the bill to the "rich guy".

liberal larry
salt lake City, utah

This letter is right on the mark. A large element of the Republican party has has gone as far to the right as the 1960's hippies were to the left! This is why despite the bad economy the Republicans had such an anemic showing in the last national election. But don't despair, the GOP will get tired of losing and will eventually pull back to the political center, and the tea party, black helicopter, crowd will return to their former marginalized status.

Mike in Cedar City
Cedar City, Utah

Republicans voters have drank the libertarian tea and now must bear the responsiblity for the obstructionism that has paralysed our national govermnent. For Tea Party legislators, political compromise is a aborent. Representative democracy requires reasoned compromise. But reason is not what thay care for.

Far East USA, SC

"any politician who does not promise a new car in every garage and a steak for every dinner is "extreme"."

Not even close Mr Richards.

Example - The EPA and the FDA are good organizations that provide a service? Can we cite examples where they overstep their bounds? Of course.

Reasonable thought - Lets step in a fix what is not working in those organizations.
Extreme thought - Shut them all down.

Reasonable thought - Work to make abortion legal, safe and rare.
Extreme thought - Criminalize all abortions and give "personhood" rights to the unborn.

Reasonable thought - reduce entitlements, cut defense and bring taxes up
Extreme thought - deeper entitlement cuts, increase military spending and cut taxes for the rich

Now, I am not saying that the dems are always reasonable, but the extreme right takes the cake.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

Hannity and Limbaugh just collect large checks to drive herd people to the extreme right.

Salt Lake City, UT

Both sides are guilty. It's the pot calling the kettle black. Self righteousness is present on both sides. Allegations that "You're more extreme than I am," are ludicrous.

one old man
Ogden, UT

Mike, when you say, "It's easy to see who the "extremists" really are - they are those who mock the Constitution by stating that they have the power to do whatever they want."

Were you referring to President Cheney who pushed for more expansion of Presidential powers than any other person in any party? Or the Cheney who commented (more than once) that the Constitution is "just a piece of paper"?

There was an excellent Frontline special on this recently. You can probably find it on the PBS website.

(Ooops. Forgot. The PBS website is regarded by many as a "liberal" site. I guess it is, when compared with FOX and hate radio. But whatever PBS is, it's truthful.)

salt lake city, utah

Mike in Cedar City...Republicans voters drank the libertarian tea..boy is that true. I have a flock of far right relatives and they all prance around now saying "I'm liberitarian" then go off on their favorite anti.. program. For some it's regulations, for some it's taxes, others it's gun control, and some just plain old hate Obama. In the end the whole libertarian thing is simply cover for I'm mad about taxes but don't give a darn about immigration, or whatever their pet peeve is. The sad thing is they really are starting to think they are islands unto themselves. In the end libertarianism is just plain selfishness, or at least it's a marriage made in heaven.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

"Self righteousness is present on both sides. Allegations that "You're more extreme than I am," are ludicrous."

Soooo they're both equally crazy?

So where were the demands to see Romney's birth certificate? Does he have a deep seated hatred for minorities and retired folks? Do we have any recordings from Romney's bishop to make sure that he wasn't speaking ill of America or our government? Lets analyze Romney's school records, shall we?

Face it, the right has gone off the deep end. Rather than focus on fixing their own party, they have focused on tearing down others.

Eric Samuelsen
Provo, UT

Excellent letter. And may I offer the fervent hope that no Republicans reading it pay any attention to anything you wrote.

Salt Lake City, UT

Speaking of Barry Goldwater, he once famously said: "I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice!" Well, it may not be a vice, but it surely makes it tougher to be elected as a leader of all the people, as he found out in his losing bid for the presidency, and as Mitt Romney recently re-discovered.

Of course, extremism is largely in the eye of the beholder. Hardly anyone thinks of himself or herself as extreme. Why, even Mike Richards probably thinks he is anything but extreme, as he labels liberals as the true extremists. Yet most of the posters here think Mr. Richards is the extreme one.

Maybe we should all swallow a humble pill, acknowledge that people of good will can have differing viewpoints, and stop applying small-minded pejorative labels to those with whom we disagree. Wow, I can't believe I just said that! I must be drifting toward rational discourse! Help!


There are many Republicans who think Romney lost the election because he was too moderate.

Their takeaway from the election is a) we need to appeal to more brown voters by passing immigration reform and/or b) our messaging was lousy.

As long as Republicans get their news from right-winged hate radio nothing will change.

Its going to be a long and painful process to return to sanity.

All American
Herriman, UT

An "uncompromising obstructionist attitude by Republicans against any and all outside initiatives" is the only attitude that will keep us from becoming a completely socialist country. What good is any party that just goes along to get along? That most assuredly leads to a government run a muck and the American people left with no freedoms and no power.

Obviously Mr. McDonald is not willing to education himself on the many, many "suitable alternatives" offered by our House Republicans that are ignored, or worse, buried by Harry Reid and are never allowed even a discussion in the Senate.

So correctly, the meaning of "obstructionist" is in the "eye of the beholder". This beholder sees only Democratic obstructionists who will not produce a budget, discuss suitable alternatives (if presented by Republicans), will not listen to the wishes of the people (Obamacare shoved down our throats), and basically accomplish nothing because of their inability to compromise. They all have the "my way or the highway" attitude - from our want-a-be king down through the ranks of all democrats.

P.S. Why do mostly liberal zealots respond to these extremist letters? Come on conservatives - where are you? Fight for your freedoms!

Kearns, UT

And Harry Reid, Pelosi, and Obama have passed exactly how many budgets in the past 4 years? Like, NONE!. And you blame Republicans for this? Seems like the House, lead by Republicans has passed budget after budget and passed them on to the Senate, only to be buried by Reid. I don't think conservative Republicans are the problem. The Democrats only want conpromise when it benefits them politically. In other words, "our way or the highway". Same thing that Andrew, our letter writer, is accusing the Republicans of.

Far East USA, SC

"Seems like the House, lead by Republicans has passed budget after budget and passed them on to the Senate, only to be buried by Reid"

Well, lets take a bit of a deeper look.

The house is controlled by the GOP. And they have the numbers to pass anything they want with ZERO Democratic votes.

That is why the house has been able to pass a budget. I can also assure you that EVERY GOP member who voted on the budget KNEW up front that it could not and would not pass the senate.

Now, lets look at the Senate.

It is controlled by the Dems, but not with a fillibuster proof majority. They cannot pass anything without some GOP votes.

This is why the House can pass a budget and the senate can not.

And now you know the rest of the story......

All American
Herriman, UT

Hey, JoeBlow, did you notice that the entire Senate, both Dems and GOP, voted AGAINST Obama's proposed budget? So why can't the Senate even TRY to formulate its own budget? Even a heated discussion would be better than nothing at all?

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

One Old Man,
How many bills passed by Congress did Vice-President Cheney sign?

Joe Blow,
Article 1, Section 1, "All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives." The EPA and the FDA are not authorized to do anything without Congress voting on each and every "law" recommended by those non-Congressional bodies.

Excusing their activities because you believe that they benefit society misses the whole concept of having a government directed by a Constitution and having a Constitution that is the Supreme Law of the Land.

We're seeing what happens when a President thumbs his nose at the Constitution. He pretends that he has the power to direct Congress and he pretends that he has the right to use a State of the Union speech to harass the Supreme Court.

You may think that obeying the Supreme Law of the Land is "extreme". Many people who think that the Constitution is "outdated" and that law only applies to the other guy also regards the "other guy" as being extreme.

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