There are many goofy things in Star Wars, but Yoda was right on the button with
his "Do, or do not" quote. Of course, life is filled with failure and
repeated attempts. In the Star Wars movies, characters are constantly coming-up
short and making repeated attempts at success, Yoda himself being among them.What Yoda was talking about is not perfection, but commitment. Too
often, our stated level of commitment is to "try." It's a safe
response when we want to leave room for failure ... permanent failure. Often,
those who say "I'll try" are planning on giving-up after a meager
attempt, or as soon as the going gets tough ... so at least they can sit back
and say they were true to their word. But in matters of family, integrity and
accomplishing life's most important goals, the bar needs to be higher. It
may take multiple attempts to succeed, but the person who commits to doing
instead of just trying WILL succeed at last if not at first, and will show a
dependability far beyond those who agree only to "try."
I never took this scene that way. When one says that they will "try," it
generally means they will give up if they don't succeed the first time. You
keep trying because trying isn't your goal, doing is. For you, there is no
try, or at least it isn't important, there is only the final outcome after
many attempts--succeeding or failing.
qapilot has it exactly right. Stephen Palmer is tragically wrong.
Side note: can we all agree to take "midi-chlorian" both out of our
collective vocabulary and collective memory?
Give qapilot Stephen Palmer's job.
Good points in this article. I am not going to get caught up in the nuances of
"trying", and Yoda, but the point of the article is to "never give
up", because the grace of the Savior suffices when you are trying. That
doesn't remove the necessity to repent repeatedly. Mosiah 26:30
says: "Yea, and as often as my people repent will I forgive them their
trespasses against me." That verse tells me that we WILL indeed
make mistakes constantly, and that the Savior will constantly forgive us when we
repent. He won't give up on us, so neither should we give up.Never give up.
Palmer should not be "steadying the ark" by disagreeing with Master
Yoda.That is the path to the dark side, hmmmm?
At the risk of taking the “little green, wrinkly humanoid” as a
serious (not to mention real) teacher, this one is just too fun not to chime
in.First, I very much doubt Yoda (or the teachers of Eastern wisdom
his character was based on) would ever make an absolute & blanket
(applicable to all people in all circumstances) statement like “never
try.”Yoda was addressing one person “trying” to do
one thing at one moment in time, and whose attitude expressed serious doubt
(which was the real target of Yoda’s jab). Stephen recognizes this half
way into his essay, but then largely ignores it for the remainder.And his
formula needs improvement – a better one would be:Success =
(Trying X Learning from Mistakes) – FailureBut all in all a
good, if incomplete, motivational message…
Our mentality causes us to think that trying results in one of two outcomes:
success and failure. This is really not true. With "earnest" trying,
there is only one outcome: success! When you try, you experiment (see Alma 32)
and seek results. A result is always a success; you learn that the attempt (or
"proof", as is more appropriate) either produced the expected result or
an unexpected one. We can and should learn from any outcome and move
forward. As we are counseled in scripture, if we find that that we have a
"good seed" ("success"), we gain knowledge and are ready for the
next step of faith to add upon it. If we discover that we have a "bad
seed" ("failure"), we cast it aside and move on to the next
experiment to see if it will produce a good seed. In either case, we learn, we
grow, and we can move forward in a positive manner.Yoda is right! I
think his semantics are sound, but the word choice of "do or do not"
resonates improperly with us due to our cultural upbringing. We must do, learn,
and do again.
Biology is all about trying until the cost is more than the gain. That is the
nature of adjusting. Trying for all eternity, diverting one's resources to
that which will not happen, is a path to failure. Yoda was wrong; there is only
trying, and maybe then, success.
Obviously what Yoda said was wrong, but perhaps not in the context in which it
was said and what he meant to imply.I imagine Yoda sensed if he did
try, that he would be successful, therefore trying in THIS case wasn't good
enough. He 'had' to keep trying until he was successful.
Palmer Stephen, wrong was he."You must unlearn what you have
learned."This litte scene was the ONLY one in 6 movies that
George Lucas had right!This is the bedrock of FAITH.Faith is a knowledge of something unseen or unknown, a Do - it is not a
"Try".Think of a baby learning to walk.As
parents, we see them try and fail.We tell the little ones - Come on, you
CAN DO it. (There is no try)When they fail, then we tell them to try it
again.Always with the expectation of that they CAN DO it, not try."Do or do not. There is no try."...and try and try
again until you DO. There is no try.
Wasn't it one on the Mormon Church presidents that had a plaque on his
executive desk that said: " Just do It". It didn’t say try to do
Yoda was right. You can try all you want and I sure have. But in the end you
either do it or you don't. Bottom line ... it's the results that
I suggest if one initiates a task with a positive attitude coupled with the
necessary skillset and planning, success will follow. One whom merely
"tries" without sufficient preparation is likely to face disappointment.
It's the mindset. You say you're gonna do it and you're gonna do
it. You say you're gonna try and you're leaving failure as an option.
If you lined up Yoda with the then living Spenser W. Kimball in 1980 you would
have seen a remarkable resembalance. I wonder if the Urban myth is true that
George Lucas used Kimball as a starting point for the character Yoda?
"Do, or do not" is a sensational quote. Trying is an excuse not to get
things done. Not putting in your best effort. Not standing up for yourself.
To be fair, we probably should question the wisdom of some wrinkled little swamp
creature whose incompetence on the Jedi Council, and inability to use the Force
to see what the enemy was up to, resulted in the almost complete destruction of
the Jedi Order, including many "little ones" in the Jedi Temple, and the
fall of the Republic.If Yoda was so wise, he wouldn't have let
such horrible things happen. Those Wookies should have stepped on him a long
time before it got out of hand.I'm just sayin'.
Maybe Yoda should be a spokesman for Nike.
What's next organized religion pitching a hissy about the tenets of Deism
& Gnosticism in the 3rd Indiana Jones?