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Published: Wednesday, Feb. 6 2013 8:56 a.m. MST

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Russ
Salt Lake City, UT

Bruce knows what he is talking about. It is nice to read a Hollywood actor that does not spout nonsense.

Eliyahu
Pleasant Grove, UT

''If you take one out or change one law, then why wouldn't they take all your rights away from you?"
Using that logic, or lack of logic, we would never have amended the Constitution or revised any existing laws once enacted. Did abolishing slavery, giving the vote to women and passing the pure food and drug act decades ago take away all our rights? Changes in laws over the years tend to show the progress and reconsideration of errors of the past that mark a maturing and developing society.

Mr. Willis may be an excellent actor, but he is no more an authority on constitutional law than any other lay person, and fame should not give his personal opinions any particular weight. Here, he shows a particular lack of knowledge and understanding of both law and history.

Craig Clark
Boulder, CO

Reasonable gun control is no infringement on the Second Amendment. I'm not sure what Bruce Willis' angle is since he also took the time to dis the notion of a link between Hollywood movies and real life violence.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

He knows that criminals will not obey more gun laws and all this debate about how we need more gun laws is irrelevant because in the end, more laws will not stop crime. Its already against the law to murder people but it happens everyday especially in Chicago where we already have the strictest gun laws in the nation! Translation: gun laws do not work, never have, never will!

Mark B
Eureka, CA

Instead of citing Chicago, which is one city in the middle of an area touching several states, M-man should compare the whole country's gun violence rate to, say, Japan or Brazil. We lead the world in gun ownership, but not in safety.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

Different cultures Mark! Let me give you some examples of many that are possible. During the tsunami in Japan, there was no looting. Compare that with what happened in the aftermath of Sandy and Katrina, especially in New Orleans. Besides, Brazil has their hands full with criminals with "illegal" guns. Mexico is another example where its illegal for citizens to own guns but now the crooks can operate with impunity and even the police can not stop them!

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

Bruce is correct on the 2nd amendment, but I would not say he is any way an expert.

I disagree with his assertion that violence in movies has no effect on our society.

xscribe
Colorado Springs, CO

Mountanman is correct, in that our society needs to change. Many countries allow gun ownership, but do not have the problems we have. It's a whole culturual issue. However, I'm sure we will disagree on banning the assault-style, high-capacity clip weapons that tend to be the culprits in these mass shootings. While I will agree it will not stop people from gaining access to them, it would also make it more difficult and maybe, just maybe, a few lives would be saved. One this is for sure, in my opinion: Arming every last man, woman, and child is not and will not be the answer. Again, it starts with a whole cultural change of thinking!

CHS 85
Sandy, UT

@Mountanman

So we should have no laws then. Why bother trying to regulate anything. If we only pass laws that we know everyone will obey, why do we even need a legislature, judges, etc? Why not let our country devolve into a free-for-all?

Mukkake
Salt Lake City, UT

Amen, Bruce.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

@CHS Its called enforcement of laws, not just having ever more unenforced laws on the books. Gun laws are not being enforced as it is. Crooks can carry illegal guns with impunity in most American cities, so having more unenforced laws is beyond ridiculous. If cops were allowed to stop and search suspicious people on the street we could actually do some good but the left would call it "profiling" and the ACLU would have the cops in court. And there in a nut shell is the real problem; a moral relativism and secular progressivism culture. Add to that the entitlement culture of our inner cities and one can understand the consequences of our culture! Blaming guns for our culture is like blaming matches for arson or pencils for poor grammar!

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

@ CHS A few years ago the FBI conducted a study and found that about 70% of crimes committed in our cities are perpetrated by young men with no father in the home. Draw you own conclusions about why we have social problems in this country and why we have so many murders! The culture of America has changed being enabled by our welfare system that has made fathers in the home irrelevant! Think its bad now, wait until the next fatherless generation hits the streets?

Eliot
Santaquin, UT

Bruce Willis doesn't think there is a connection between violence and popular entertainment. Who would have thought? Why is this news?

lket
Bluffdale, UT

bottom line you dont need 30 round magazine for any rifle. i was in the army for 6 years as armourer. ar15, and ak style rifles are made for killing people, as fast and as many as possible so to say regulating them in any way is wrong, is child like. 20 round magazine is plenty. my 870 remington shot gun can protect my home and mine. i know how to use many weapons and know we sell too many, and that we should not . you can but 50 cal. rifles and if you have right permit, a m2 machine gun. about a 5 mile range . what do we need it for?

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "lket" why can't people own different rifles for the fun and enjoyment of shooting?

Are all automobiles limited to the speedlimit for the maximum speed?

If we applied your logic to cars, we would never need passenger cars with more than about 180 hp. Why would anybody need a car that can go faster than 75 mph? We should limit all car manufacturers to preventing cars from going faster than 75 mph, and limit their hp to 180.

To "Mark B" how about we look at Mexico for gun enforcement laws. In Mexico they have 15 guns per 100 people, yet have a firearm related death rate of 11.7/100000 (that is higher than the US). We could look at the #1 country for firearm related deaths, El Salvador (50.36/100000) and their gun ownership rate of 5.8/100 people.

Why is it that the countries with much higher firearm related death rates have so few guns if it is the number of guns that are the problem?

The data indicates that firearm related homicide rates have more to do with criminal activity and not the number of guns.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

xscribe,
you mean that gun carried itself into the school, pulled its own trigger, reloaded all by itself? No human handled it? WOW!

You said the gun was the culprit.

Pretty smart weapon, self-aware and everything.

xscribe
Colorado Springs, CO

Lost: Would you care to have an adult discussion, or the childish discussion you resorted to? It's up to you!

If I take a gun to a school with a 5-round clip, and someone else takes a gun to a school with a 30-round clip, who is going to do the most damage?

Johnny Triumph
American Fork, UT

Media should shoulder some of the blame for the rise in violent acts, we portray so much violence in movies, tv, and video games. However, we will continue to see problems as 1st and 2nd amendment rights clash in what is actually right and moral to do, thus placing responsibility on those exercising both amendments' rights to show some moral judgement in how they act. If we continue to have those who stick to only one tenet then we'll continue to see problems.

Kirk R Graves
West Jordan, UT

@xscribe
"If I take a gun to a school with a 5-round clip, and someone else takes a gun to a school with a 30-round clip, who is going to do the most damage?"

You miss the point entirely. What is to stop the guy with the 5 round clip from carrying 20 of them? and how long does it take to drop and reload a clip? About .5 seconds for someone who has practiced. So, what exactly is the difference between a 50-round clip and a 5-round clip? 5 second. And with only .5 second reload time, there is no difference at all as things are happening.

restricting gun ownership is not about safety. The arguments used by those for restrictions don't hold any water (except perhaps background checks). So, what is it really about? It's about our politicians being seen to do something (think knee jerk reaction). doesn't matter what, as long as we think they're doing it. And if they can turn it into a us vs them thing, then they win even more at the polls.

snowman
Provo, UT

Craig Clark
Any gun control is infringment on the 2nd amendment. The criminals will have guns so why can't we.

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