...and let's say Obama raises the debt from $8 trillion to $16 trillion. In
relative terms they are the same. - Tekakaromatagi1st, George W.
Bush left the national debt at $10 trillion dollars. So your figures are off
by.. $2 trillion dollars. 2nd, the fault of Republican
arguments about Obama and the debt is that if Obama added ONE dollar to the
debt... it would, technically, be 'more' debt than any
other President. I guess we are ignoring the fact that Bush did not
end his wars in Iraq and Afgahnistan. And that Bush did not budget them, so we
have to pay them retroactively after he left office. Right? So, to
be ON PAR with Republican spending Obama wold have to put the national debt at
$20 or $30 trillion dollars. Has he? No. So,
if my motivation in any upcoming eletions is the budget, why would I vote
Republican? When they double and triple the debt.... and
Democratic Presidents, do not?
@Pagan:You are correct on one thing. Bush was a disaster and Obama
will bean equally big disaster, if not worse. Obama was supposed to be the
liberal alternative to Bush and he isn't and now we have nothing. (I am so
thankful that I voted for Nader in 2004).You are looking at relative
debt. Yes, Bush raised the debt from $4 trillion to $8 trillion and let's
say Obama raises the debt from $8 trillion to $16 trillion. In relative terms
they are the same. But in absolute terms Bush raised $4 trillion and Obama will
raise $8 trillion. So he raised it twice as much.If you don't
believe me do a little exercise. Get a credit card with a $100,000 limit. Go
and buy a hamburger on the credit card. Your debt has gone from $0 to $4.56.
It has gone up infinity times, even more than the Gipper but that is OK. No
problem. Go buy a big screen TV. $2000. A 500 x increase. So far, so good.
Now go and max out the card. That only a 50x times increase.Which
purchase will kill your finances?
Politics becomes amusing when liberalism becomes theatrical with high-minded
gestures. - Article This is a joke, right? Obama raises
the debt ceiling, x4 times. W. Bush, x7 times. Ronald
Regan, x18 times. Obama, has not doubled or tripled the national
debt. W. Bush, doubled the national debt. Ronald Regan,
tripled the debt. And yet today, the Republican House refuses to
pass legislation citing financial concerns about the debt. Passing only 3% of
it's legislation in the last 4 years, and getting paid $175,000 a year, per
person, to do so. There is a REASON the Republican House has only a
10% approval rating. Because they claim others are 'moral
grandstanding'... while they hope our President
'fails', and work to ensure they put their political party, before the
needs of our country.
I used to read and heed Mr. Will. But he was unfortunately swept up in the
rightward drift of the GOP toward polar extremes.I had hoped he
would have had better sense than to allow himself to slip to the edges of
For a moment I thought that, based on the headlines, perhaps Mr. Will was going
to observe all the right wing moral grandstanding in state legislatures and
their "message" bills, what a waste of time and taxpayer dollars they
are, and how poorly that grandstanding reflects on modern conservatism.But no - just same crotchety whining about liberals.