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Published: Thursday, Jan. 31 2013 12:00 a.m. MST

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Bountiful, UT

Agreed that keeping guns from the criminally
insane would be a technical violation of the
constitution, but its one I can live with.

In this world there isn't perfect anything, so you
have to find a way to make due.

Eden, UT

When a "scout age" young man talks about needing a gun to protect himself against America, something is wrong. Who is instilling this thought in his mind? When the Salt Lake Police Chief supports the ban on Assault rifles, and is recognized on the National News for his thoughtfulness and courage; and nothing is reported about it in the Deseret News, something is amiss. What has created this misunderstanding in this young man's mind? Why is the National news of the Salt Lake Chief's position not newsworthy in Salt Lake?

Pleasant Grove, UT


Great letter! You are right: everyone has a natural right to protect his own life, and the Constitution guarantees it.

@Beverly "Who is instilling this thought in his mind?"

Thomas Jefferson wrote to James Madison in 1788, "I hope, therefore, a bill of rights will be formed to guard the people against the Federal government...." Maybe Matt got the idea from him.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

Keeping them at home. But when carrying them around you get situations like the recent Arizona shooter who was a gun freak that freaked out and pulled the trigger in anger. If you want to be guarded form the Federal government start making a defensive drone so you cannot be annihilated from three miles away while you are loading your twenty round clip.

Midway, UT

This is frightening, especially coming from a scout. Assault weapons in everyone's hands are not guaranteed by the Constitution - sorry! Since you cite the Second Amendmet, did you completely misunderstand the part about the well regulated militia? I don't see anything about everyone packing uzis. I would encourage you to expand your horzons beyond the Deseret News. Get information from many sources. Travel around the country and the world. Adope a gay scout into your scouting group. Be open minded and your positions will change in time.

Salt Lake City, UT

The US has the highest gun per person ratio of any nation in the world. The Supreme Court has already ruled that total gun bans are unconstitutional. Not every gun is an assault weapon so even if those were banned there'd still be plenty of guns. The Supreme Court and Scalia noted that gun rights aren't universal, i.e. that regulations can still exist on guns.

provo, Utah

So why identify yourself as a scout? Did you scout leader tell you all that? It's a nice recitation of right wing gun nut talking points but a well regulated militia is the national guard, not an armed scout troop.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

"It should be unconstitutional to ban guns."

Who is proposing this?

Using your logic, my dear scout, why can't we buy machine guns, grenades, drones, tanks, and aircraft carriers?


What you are suggesting is no regulation.

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

The irony is Boy Scout Troop 1340 meets the Contitutional requirement of "A well regulated Militia" better than these assault toting, Anti-Governement soldier wann-bes he's learning this garbage from.

From the criteria of Organization, uniforms, weekly meetings, and leadership postitions -- right down to the Shotgun and Rifle merit badge requirements and training.
Any Boy Scouts is more a member of a militia than say; Mountanman, Mike Richards, RedShirt or JThompson.

Matt - no one is coming to take away your guns. Who ever tells you that is lying to you.

The government is not some boogy-man to hate and dispise - it is US the people, it is YOU.
You might want to brush up on your Citizenship in the Nation merit badge.

And BTW - who do you consider a Terrorist anyway?
Can you describe one for me? - or did someone tell you anyone from the Middle East is to be considered dangerous and trying to kill us?

Just so you know - If I saw anyone walking down my street with a weapon - and NOT in uniform,
THEY would be considered a Terrorist.

Murray, UT

Why the personal attacks on this scout, and his leader? Yes our young are impressionable, and probably have values that reflect their parents' values. That is where they learn values.

Don't all you anti-gun wing-nuts teach your children to be anti-gun wing-nuts just like you?

Attacking children for their views is definitely against my values.

Salt Lake City, UT

Also, why is talking about shooting soldiers and cops socially acceptable? (tyrannical gov't is such a convenient phrase, but in reality if one were overthrowing such a gov't, that's who they'd be fighting)

American Fork, UT

I love the question " If nobody had guns, how would we protect ourselves?" The answer, of course, is that we wouldn't need to. At least not from people with guns, since your question poses the scenario wherein no one has them. This isn't going to happen, of course, but then it's important to remember that no one is trying to take all your guns away. You'll still have something to use when all them terr'ists you're worried about show up.

Eric Samuelsen
Provo, UT

Matt, it's great that you wrote to the newspaper to express your views. Good for you. But I don't agree. You say "everyone should be able to bear arms." I don't think you really mean that. Surely you agree that a convicted violent criminal should be allowed to go straight from prison to a gun shop, do you? And, I'm sorry to say this, but I don't think you should personally be allowed to buy a gun. You're too young. Sorry.

Anti Bush-Obama
Washington, DC

Yes let just bow down the the obama administration and give them all our guns and all our rights. After all they would never think of abusing their power if they are the only ones with guns. Let just bow down to the holy obama administration and let them do whatever they want to us. Let let them incite a race war and pat us down without due process. Let just throw out the constiution because it is the only way these people will be happy. Of course they can still have their constiutional rights because they are "divine" and holy" so the law shouldn't apply to them. They can have their rights and treat the law abiding citizens like slaves which I most certainly feel like.

Wanda B. Rich
Provo, UT

"We are a warlike people, easily distracted from our assignment of preparing for the coming of the Lord. When enemies rise up, we commit vast resources to the fabrication of gods of stone and steel—ships, planes, missiles, fortifications—and depend on them for protection and deliverance. When threatened, we become antienemy instead of pro-kingdom of God; we train a man in the art of war and call him a patriot, thus, in the manner of Satan’s counterfeit of true patriotism, perverting the Savior’s teaching:

'Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

'That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven.' (Matt. 5:44–45.)"

- Spencer W. Kimball, 1976

Mormon attitudes toward guns brought this quote to mind. It seems we haven't learned anything in the 36 1/2 years since this statement was made. If anything, we've become more militant and more paranoid.

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

Totally Agree!

Killing Machines are protection.

I've ordered my flame thrower and RPG launcher/ammo to complement my cache of Killing Machines...

of course, all to protect me and my family from tyranny.

Anti Bush-Obama
Washington, DC

lds liberal

"Just so you know - If I saw anyone walking down my street with a weapon - and NOT in uniform,
THEY would be considered a Terrorist."

For obeying the law? Anybody with your mindset is a facist.

Mapleton, UT

Guns are designed for killing--whether varmints, bears or people. For all of you against regulation of firearms by the federal government, why is it that gun owner rights should trump the right to life? Without the federal government Utah would likely be a third world country with a wall around it.

What is the benefit of an arms race between the “good guys” and the “bad guys?” In Mexico 120,000 deaths have been reported from gun violence in the last few years, twice as many as the 60,000 estimated deaths from the civil war in Syria. From robberies to kidnappings to gang and drug wars, and from just plain thrill killings, no one is safe in Mexico. Is that the kind of society you want for yourself and your family?

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

Is Glenn Beck going to lead the uprising against tyrannical government form his new amusement park?


Guns are not going to be banned. No one in any position to have an impact on this decision has ever said they wnat to ban guns.

Only the Supreme Court can decide if something is unconstitutional. Once new laws are implemented, or old laws are reinterpreted, they will have their say.

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