Published: Tuesday, Jan. 29 2013 12:00 a.m. MST
Title: ‘Is America in decline?'Only if you listen to AM
hate radio or are 55+, White, and male [Archie Bunker], or are a member of the 1% who own 80% of everything.Irony of the day
-- Those who say they love America more than anyone else, trash talk
it more than anyone else.
You had me until the conclusion. I don't think the answer is to make people
work until they are 75 or so and not support the poor. "welfare states are
overwhelmed". Really? Denmark is the happiest place on Earth to
Disneyland's dismay. A small country that uses it's resources for all
it''s people and not just a few who hoard all the money.Personally, I think extreme capitalism and selfishness is overwhelmed in this
country. You just can't give the top couple percent 90 percent of the
wealth and have enough left over. The poor rich will just have to buckle down
No, the country is not yet in decline, but Wall Streets success is hardly a
harbinger of sucess. The country must solve the deficit problem, the gun
slaugher problem, a bloated military budget, and political obstructionism from
forces that don't believe that government has any answers. It needs to
change the tax structure so that corporate interests and the very wealthy are
not favored. It needs to respond to "Citizens United" so that political
contributions and special intrests are not buying our elected representatives.
Finally, American attitudes need to change. Selfishness is justified on phony
alter of catch prases like "personal and individual responsibility"
Guns are valued more than life, the pursuit of wealth is our God, and we have
become a hard uncarring society where national disasters now become political
foder for right wing ubstructionism.
No Federal budget in 4 years. Stale economy. Stubborn unemployment.
Dysfunctional Federal government and several state governments. Crippling debt
and out-of-control government spending that no one seems willing to address.
Traditional values that underlie any strong society have been discarded and
derided. Re-election of a really bad president and members of Congress.Of course America is in decline. Most Americans won't realize the
country has fallen until the government checks stop coming, they lose their
jobs, and cities crumble. Unless you live in Detroit...
Hey... keep writing and publishing these downer, depressing articles.Keep
listening to Rush Limbaugh and the likes of him. Negativity, paranoia, and
sadness will saturate your life.Be sure you share this message with your
children, and grandchildren each day, as wellFeed their minds with
thoughts of America's decline, along with a good dose of distrust, hatred
and fear.Then ponder why the young in our society act as they do.
When you foster intolerance and hate... what other possible outcome
would you see?
America is not in decline. It's a robust 50-nation enterprise that will
continue to outperform everybody else if we can push back against the Right
Wing that wants America to fail. Comparisons to the Roman Empire are
instructive: Rome was a plunder economy based on slave labor that, interestingly
enough, fell only after it enforced monolithic Christianity. Similar to what
the Right Wing wants to do to the USA.
LDS liberal."55+, White, and male [Archie Bunker],"Talk about racical profiling. This is proof that the facist authoritarian left
wants to incite a civil/race war. in this country. There are more people with a
different color that think the same way than the massmedia will ever admit. My
wife being one of them. The Black Rapper
Wow, people are all over the place making political attacks where none really
exist.The big question is how do you define decline? Do you look at
social aspects, economic aspects, opinion polls, or what?Religiously
we are seeing fewer people attending weekly church meetings, does that mean we
are in decline?We have many people leaving the work force and going
on disability or retiring, is that a sign of decline?We have had
some job growth over the past couple of years, does that mean that the US is
doing better?Plese define what you mean by decline before making
politically charged statements.
If cut me off for some reason. The rappers name was Lupe Fiasco who i agree with
100% politically because he happens to be a libertarian. Just tore apart obama
at the inagural ball. The secret service just removed him from the stage but yet
the media didn't rport it because they want to keep Obamas detractors male
and white so reporting this would 've been counterproductive towards the
divided totalitarian police state that is being set up.
Anti Bush-ObamaWashington, DCLDS liberal."55+,
White, and male [Archie Bunker],"Talk about racical profiling.
This is proof that the facist authoritarian left... =========== Not my words -- but the words from the GOP themselves [Haley Barbour,
and Bobby Jindal come quickly to mind] after they assessed losing the Women,
Hispanic, and Young vote demographics last election by 30-40%.FYI -
and for the last colleged educated time -- Facism is extreme RIGHT-Wing - polar
RedShirtUSS Enterprise, UTWow, people are all over the place making
political attacks where none really exist.Religiously we are seeing
fewer people attending weekly church meetings, does that mean we are in
decline?========== Know the treatment of
"religous" and intolerant folks like you RedShirt, Mike Richrads or
JThompson - one should hardly be surprised.I'd rather stay
home, pray and read my scriptures, than listen to the weekly endless
parrotings of Conservatives figurehead Rush Limbaugh [a 4 timed married and
divrced, No children, former drug addict] and Sean Hannity in Sunday School and
When something is in "decline", it is not working. If my health is
"declining", something is physically wrong with me. If my house is
"declining", it needs repairs.If our nation is in
"decline", it needs fixing because something is not right.Economic prosperity cannot be fixed by transferring wealth from one sector to
another. That might "fix" the "wealth problem" of one sector at
the expense of another. Economic prosperity can only be fixed if there is more
wealth. Wealth is created when more people are working. More people can work
when businesses make a profit. Businesses make a profit in countries where the
government is small and efficient; where taxes are levied ONLY to cover the
duties that are required, not the duties that special interest groups demand.A family cannot pay the personal debts of its neighbors. The government
cannot force us to "adopt" three or four or more extra children, to care
for them, to educate them, to provide healthcare for them; but that is exactly
what they're doing through taxes. We pay for our family's personal
welfare AND for those that the government "adopted" into our families.
Each individual controls her destiny to many an extent. However, I would say as
a whole the answer is obvious. While a superpower certainly, an economic
powerhouse and still an engine of innovation, we probably peeked out in the late
1950's and early 1960's. It's not by saying that means we are
doomed and perhaps we can have other peaks, perhaps even surpassing this time in
our country's history. Overall I am optimistic but still worried about my
children's future and the destiny of our great nation. But this time (late
1950's and early 1960's) was the only time where the middle class was
expanding. Health care costs and a college education was affordable. Also,
positive social change was beginning to happen and America's prestige,
power and influence was large. We still had problems and challenges and for
many groups like women and minorities, things were not better than perhaps now
for these groups and that must be factored in, but I think overall things were
better then than now.
If you blame the so-called "decline" in America on: Homosexuals,
abortion, non-believers, separation of church & state, evolution and the
poor, then you are what's wrong with America.
Since the unfunded Iraq war, until the reelection.
No, America is not in decline. We have our ups and our downs.But we
are not in decline.No thanks, however, to the GOP or AM hate radio.
They might want people to believe we are in decline, but we're not and
won't be unless they manage to take over.
"Economic prosperity cannot be fixed by transferring wealth from one sector
to another.. .Economic prosperity can only be fixed if there is more
wealth." The problem with this is how the wealth was divided up at the
point of creation. It now disproportionately goes to the risk taker rather than
the worker who actually created it. If my work creates $10 an hour worth of
wealth, and it takes $4 an hour to support me, you can't give $9 of the
wealth I create to the "boss" and not in some way shape or form need to
trasfer back $3 of that $9 to me so that I can survive. I realize the
simplicity of my model but that's the purpose of models and it does
accurately describe our meta situation.
To "LDS Liberal" what have I said that is "intolerant"?Yes in the past I have shown that you are are 100% Wrong in your beliefs of
LDS Doctrine. But that is not intolerance, unless you call it not being
tolerant of lies.Personally I would rather listen to Glenn Beck, you
know that repentant commentator. He teaches LDS doctrine to non-LDS people, and
helps people to become more self sufficient.The irony of your last
post is how you attack Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh and anybody who listens to
them. You call lots of people intolerant, while showing a lack of tolerance
yourself.What did Jesus say to those who tell people to do something
while not doing it themselves? Where is your tolerance, the fact that you would
rather sit home, pray and read scriptures than go somewhere where people have a
different opinion only shows that you are not tolerant of others.
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