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Brad Rock: Playing on Sunday is part of Utah Utes deal to play in Pac-12

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  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Jan. 30, 2013 3:47 p.m.

    Sunday play ? How dare they. Maybe all the good LDS folks whom are at Disneyland on SUNDAY can leave a bit early and watch the Utes play USC? Steve Young and all the other LDS faithful had no problem with Sunday play in the NFL. It's called living in the real world. Steve used to have some quiet scripture time on Sundays in the morning which is available to any LDS member who must work on Sunday.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Jan. 30, 2013 11:29 a.m.

    Bluto:

    Utah was vetted for Pac-10 membership well before even the IDEA of raiding the Big 12. And even if the Pac-10 HAD have been successful in luring Texas, Tx. Tech, and Oklahoma, Utah would STILL have been part of that 16-team confederation. FAIL!

    Academics:

    Academic Ranking of WORLD Universities: Utah #82...the Y is somewhere between #303-401
    Times Higher Education WORLD University Rankings: Utah #83...the Y is somewhere between #501-600

    FAIL!

    "...the Pac-10 lost out on Texas/Oklahoma because of their bias against religious institutions."

    That had nothing to do with it. You made that up. How frantic and emotional of you. Texas balked at joining the Pac-10 because they wanted a larger share of the revenue, and Scott insisted the Pac-12/16 would be an equal revenue sharing conference. Oklahoma and Tx. Tech balked because Texas did. The Pac-10's decision to to expand, and who they opted to invite was not a "religious" decision, as much as your sour-graped fanbase would like to pretend otherwise. It was a "Football" decision. End of story. Fail!

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Jan. 30, 2013 9:27 a.m.

    @Naval Vet

    Academics...USNWR....BYU #68......Utah #127 ute-FAIL

    Athletics....BYU has 8-10 Top 25 programs each year......Utah 1.
    Utah has never bettered BYU in the Directors Cup. ute-FAIL

    All-Americans...BYU quadruples Utah, year after year, after year. ute-FAIL

    BYU, like Baylor will never be invited to the Pac because they are Faith Based Institutions....Period!

    Utah was selected as the 12th member, after Colorado was prematurely invited, as to wedge out Baylor, which then caused the Okie-Texas-6 deal to fall apart.

    In other words, the Pac-10 lost out on Texas/Oklahoma because of their bias against religious institutions.

  • BlueHusky Mission Viejo, CA
    Jan. 29, 2013 6:53 p.m.

    To my fellow LDS fans: off the high horse, please. U of U is secular. Nobody is forcing you to attend a Sunday game, and if a Mormon athlete doesn't want to play on Sunday, he can go to BYU (if he can).

    To BYU haters: amazing to me that some of you just can't stand to see anyone stand on principle.

    To PAC12 haters: you sound pretty bigoted to me. I find Republicans to be intolerant of a lot of things, especially liberals and poor people (the 47%). Granted that BYU's religious affiliation was a stopper for PAC12 admittance, but probably not the only one. Get off that high horse. Maybe BYU can get into the Big XII - they're mostly conservative Republican states. Oops, forgot that the Bible Belt tends to hate Mormons. Oh well. Guess we'll just have to go eat worms.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Jan. 29, 2013 3:39 p.m.

    skywalker:

    "We all know that's not the kind of thing that's going to come out of an official press release from either school or from the PAC 12, but it's common knowledge..."

    If it didn't come out as an official press release, how COULD it become "common knowledge"? Don't mistake "common knowledge" for "frantic and emotional cougar folklore". Your fanbase made that story up in order to explain away how unwanted you were, without having to accept that you just weren't good enough to meet the Pac-10's criteria: Academic, Athletic, and Cultural fits.

    Fail.

  • kaysvillecougar KAYSVILLE, UT
    Jan. 29, 2013 1:52 p.m.

    Howard, let me give you some insight. Brad Rock was joking when he talked about the Utes, "selling their soul to the devil." I didn't read one thing in his article that was judgmental. Much of his article was hilarious as he understands Utah culture so well. He's pretty equal opportunity about making good natured jabs at BYU. His article is very relevant because there are so many Utah fans who are members of the LDS church and who feel conflicted because they want to keep the Sabbath Day holy and watch the team they love as they have always been able to do. I think your suggestion that Ute fans who are in this camp cheer for their team every other day is a great idea.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Jan. 29, 2013 12:02 p.m.

    Will this have an impact on recruiting? As the Utes continue to rebuild, the Sunday-play policy may be a factor in bringing the best LDS athletes to SLC. Loveridge was a huge get last year but I wonder how many other elite athletes from Utah (or other non-Utah LDS) will come to the hill, even after the Utes start winning again.

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    Jan. 29, 2013 6:39 a.m.

    Big deal. I wish the Utes well in their conference. Let them play whenever they want. Different sorts of people go to and cheer for the U and the Y. Vive la difference!!

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 28, 2013 5:58 p.m.

    skywalker: "We all know that's not the kind of thing that's going to come out of an official press release from either school or from the PAC 12, but it's common knowledge that Cal and Stanford didn't want ANY religiously affiliated schools invited to the PAC 12, including Baylor."

    "Common knowledge?" Ah, yes, the conspiracy. BYU...always the victim.

    "That's why Colorado was so hastily invited to join the PAC on the eve of the PAC 10 / Big 12 South merger, to shut Baylor out of the picturen. No Sunday play for BYU was just another non-starter for a conference that celebrates "inclusion" as long as you think like they do."

    What a story. Did you think this up all by yourself? Based on the criteria set by the Presidents and Chancellors of the Pac-10 I will agree that the no Sunday play was a non-starter. It wasn't even a topic of discussion and, accordingly, BYU was not on their radar.

    phantomblade: "BYU has superior undergraduate Academics to Utah and many other schools in the PAC 12." A debatable point but what is not debatable is that BYU's post-graduate portfolio is paper thin. Research? Fail!

  • skywalker Palo Alto, CA
    Jan. 28, 2013 2:02 p.m.

    navel vet

    "Where had it been reported that Cal and Stanford kept [BYU} out due to Sunday play. Did you frantically and emotionally make that up?"

    We all know that's not the kind of thing that's going to come out of an official press release from either school or from the PAC 12, but it's common knowledge that Cal and Stanford didn't want ANY religiously affiliated schools invited to the PAC 12, including Baylor.

    That's why Colorado was so hastily invited to join the PAC on the eve of the PAC 10 / Big 12 South merger, to shut Baylor out of the picturen. No Sunday play for BYU was just another non-starter for a conference that celebrates "inclusion" as long as you think like they do.

    Interestingly, although a couple of university presidents/chancellors opposed inviting BYU, almost all PAC 12 AD's supported inviting BYU because of its strong athletic programs.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Jan. 28, 2013 1:49 p.m.

    @uteology

    I'm not a Ravens fan.

  • UoU 1991 Park City, UT
    Jan. 28, 2013 1:49 p.m.

    Playing on Sunday IS an issue for many Ute fans, including this long-time season ticket holder.

    As it turns out, I didn't miss much except for the treacherous drive down icy, snow-packed I-80.

    As much as my fellow Utah fans try to ignore the obvious, the Runnin' Utes died when Majerus left. The Utes were good in 2005 with the team Majerus left behind and decent in 2008 with Neville, but other than that, the Utes have been dreadful for almost a decade.

    The only reason "reported" attendance remains in the 7,000 to 8,000 range is because Utah continues to report season ticket holders as attending, even though most us only go to an ocassional game. The only reason we continue to renew our season tickets is on the hope that the Utes will someday have a decent team again - that hope, however, is beginning to fade, and many of us are losing patience. And, no, we're not impressed with Utah's supposed "improvement" this season. Winning a couple more games against Willamette and having a few moral victories isn't fooling anybody.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 28, 2013 12:47 p.m.

    @Duckhunter

    That will be great! No need for utah "fans" to watch since alex smith will not be playing.

    -----------------

    Yes but Paul Kruger and Ma'ake Kemoeatu will. As a Ravens fan you should have known that.

  • Elcapitan Ivins, UT
    Jan. 28, 2013 12:03 p.m.

    This is not all about "you" John, speaking of holier that thou" and BYU. It is advice and counsel from our Creator to keep the Sabbath Day Holy from the Creator Himself.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Jan. 28, 2013 11:43 a.m.

    I love the ute "fan" angst over this article! Very funny!

    That said Rock didn't "condemn" utah for playing on Sunday or even chastise them for doing so. But he is rightly pointing out that in this community the majority of indiduals that live here are members of the lDS church and they prefer not to have games on Sunday based on church teachings. It does affect attendance, it does affect viewership, it does affect the following for the program. chris hill knows it, he admitted it, kryskowiak knows it, everyone knows it even the utah "fans' on here whining about how it shouldn't be an issue. Guess what? It IS an issue.

    Now I don't care if they play on Sunday or not, but I absolutely love watching the tortured reactions to it by guys like howie, wedgie, naval, etc.

    Love it! Love it! Love it!

    LOL!

    By the way how was attendance last night? Real attendance, not announced attendance.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Jan. 28, 2013 11:30 a.m.

    @Mount Olympus

    "Oh yeah, and watching the Superbowl next week is ok, because Pitta is playing."

    That will be great! No need for utah "fans" to watch since alex smith will not be playing.

  • lasermann Orem, UT
    Jan. 28, 2013 10:31 a.m.

    So, how'd that first Sunday game go for U?

  • phantomblade Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 28, 2013 10:21 a.m.

    MyPerspective

    "There was no "smoke screen" regarding academics or research. The criteria upon which the Pac-10 Presidents and Chancellors based their decision was, in order of priority:

    1. Academics
    2. Research
    3. Athletic Prowess

    Most schools, BYU included, do not meet this stringent criteria particularly when it comes to research."

    The gaping holes in your argument:

    1. BYU has superior undergraduate Academics to Utah and many other schools in the PAC 12
    2. Some of the schools in the nearly completed PAC 10 / Big 12 South merger fall within the exact same "high research" category as BYU, yet the PAC 10 was ready to welcome the Big 12 South teams with open arms (except for Baylor, hmmm)
    3. It's not even debateable that BYU's overall athletics prowess far exceeds Utah's

    The truth is BYU wasn't invited to join the PAC 12 because of its strict no Sunday play policy and the religious bigotry of a few members.

    Interestingly, BYU still plays in the same conference as most of the PAC 12 schools in several sports including Indoor Track & Field and Men's Volleyball; and BYU and California have a healthy rivalry in Rugby.

  • moderateinmagna MAGNA, UT
    Jan. 28, 2013 9:48 a.m.

    spokane ute how dare you lump all lds people in 1 category you mention that all lds people watch the super bowl well guess what i have not watched the super bowl or any other pro football in well over 25 years it does not interest me in the least,and i seldom watch sports on sunday anyway i,m not even an active mormon but to lump all lds people in 1 category is ludicris.

  • 3grandslams Iowa City, IA
    Jan. 28, 2013 9:45 a.m.

    re Naval Vet: no I didn't make it up. Here's just one "outside" report that really saw what was going on...Go to the bleacher report and search for BYU PAC 10 discrimination.

    Lighten up guys, you're really messing up. You lecture BYU fans but are guilty of the very things you say you detest.

    It's ok just admit that BYU was very qualified for the PAC but they were discriminated against because of their religion. Why can't you admit it? Does it make you smaller somehow?

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 27, 2013 10:15 p.m.

    Mr. Rock,

    Please provide your religious insight as to 1) which supreme being was responsible for the snow to fall at such a time and in such an amount as to keep so many of us sinners from attending the Sunday game (was someone trying to save our souls? Or was the devil backing out of the "deal" made between us? Or?) 2) Which devine being was responsible for such a poor showing by my Utes?

    I look forward to reading your next discussion be it in the sports section or the religion section.

  • NightOwlAmerica SALEM, OR
    Jan. 27, 2013 9:03 p.m.

    I don't hold anything against people that have work on Sunday or boycott the business. Some people don't have a choice.
    I keep seeing where BYU fans are pulling the "PAC 12 did not invite us for religious issues and no Sunday play" Well I don't exactly see any other conference knocking on BYUs door do you? Other than a desperate Big East conference that will do anything to stay relevant. Don't think for a moment that other conferences don't have an issue with BYUs no Sunday play.

    Perhaps BYU should eliminate all sports programs. This would keep players from turning pro and playing on Sundays.

    Unfortunately we are going down the road of big money and corporate sponsorships. Especially with how the new playoff is being set up. I predict we will see corporate sponsorships attached to conferences in the near future. Another layer of decision makers in other words. The Dr. Pepper SEC or Frito Lay Big 12 does not sound interesting. Unfortunately that is the direction we are going. Make fun of Utah all you want. The future looks limited for BYU sports, especially football.

    FCS football sounds better already.

  • Christine B. Hedgefog Meridian, ID
    Jan. 27, 2013 8:56 p.m.

    Based on the embarrassing results of the game I'm guessing the Ute players and coaches themselves would have elected to skip this Sunday debacle if they had it to do over again. If anybody wasted their time going to the Huntsman Center tonight I'm guessing they were back home reading the Ensign by half time anyway. No harm, no foul.

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 27, 2013 8:46 p.m.

    Jazzsmack...The University of Utah and the Pac-12 do not need a hall pass from byu. I am devout LDS. Judgement results from envy and pride; it's part of being human. Go back and read what President Uchtdorf has to say about sports and pride and take responsibility for your own actions and words.

    The UofU has nothing to do with you or with byu so why do you care if Utah plays games on Sunday? Answer that question honestly and maybe then you will be able to say..."Congratulations UofU" and move on. It's time you, byu fans, and the local media walk the talk instead of finding ways to blame others for their disappointments.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 27, 2013 8:01 p.m.

    Utah is a secular school. For those that are offended that Utah is playing a Sunday game then just don't attend or watch.

    I'm more offended by our play: Utah 26 Stanford 46 @HALF

    Go UTES!!

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 27, 2013 7:49 p.m.

    The PAC-12 didn't want BYU because it's not a tier 1 research institution.

  • Jazzsmack Holladay, UT
    Jan. 27, 2013 6:57 p.m.

    @Howard S.
    @MyPerspective

    From Moroni 7:

    12 Wherefore, all things which are good cometh of God; and that which is evil cometh of the devil; for the devil is an enemy unto God, and fighteth against him continually, and inviteth and enticeth to sin, and to do that which is evil continually.

    13 But behold, that which is of God inviteth and enticeth to do good continually; wherefore, every thing which inviteth and enticeth to do good, and to love God, and to serve him, is inspired of God.

    14 Wherefore, take heed, my beloved brethren, that ye do not judge that which is evil to be of God, or that which is good and of God to be of the devil.

    15 For behold, my brethren, it is GIVEN UNTO TO JUDGE, that ye may know good from evil; and the way to judge is as plain, that ye may know with a perfect knowledge, as the daylight is from the dark night.

    It is given unto us to Judge.

    MyPerspective, One apostle's teaching does not make other teaching's less important.

    Everyone is given to make their own choice even on breaking the sabbath.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Jan. 27, 2013 6:39 p.m.

    3grandslams:

    "Theres a reason BYU is not in the PAC 12 and it's ALL about Sunday play. Either that's true or Cal and Standford [sic] were lying."

    Where had it been reported that Cal and Stanford kept the Indy-WACers out due to Sunday play. Did you frantically and emotionally make that up?

  • Utes home for the holidays Sandy, UT
    Jan. 27, 2013 6:34 p.m.

    @myperspective,

    Is it tough cheering for a team with a 1-14 PAC 10 road record the past two years?

    Go cardinal

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Jan. 27, 2013 6:31 p.m.

    COUGARNATE:

    "All the more proof the only reason why BYU is not in the PAC is because of the religious thing. I think it is hilarious that all these Utes fans were denying that was the reason BYU wasn't in that conference. Now we know for sure."

    So because Brad Rock said so, that counted as "proof", and you now "know for sure"?

    Wow! You clearly need to believe that so desperately. Too bad for you that the truth of the matter is, Utah's selection to the Pac-12 was a Football decision. THAT's where all the money is. Utah's 2 BCS bowls mattered more to the Pac-12 than Utah's 10 national championships in both Gymnastics and Skiing, and Utah's 4 Final Fours (including 1 national championship) in Basketball. The cougars had zero BCS bowls, and weren't the nation's winningest team vs. schools from BCS conferences from amid all the mid-major schools, and neither were they the nation's winningest postseason team. Utah was selected because the U > Y. End of story.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Jan. 27, 2013 5:59 p.m.

    It seems the DM moderators are okay with Rock accusing the University of selling its soul to the devil...

    But, they really don't want any rebuttal or comment on the matter.

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 27, 2013 4:42 p.m.

    One more thing…

    Chris B's momma: “Sold your souls for a mess of pottage…”

    Dumprake: “Utah is now in bed with the devil…”

    COUGARNATE: “only reason why BYU is not in the PAC is because of the religious thing…The PAC 12 is a conference full of liberal, biased, hypocritical institutions that preach acceptance of all, but discriminate if you are not like them, just like all liberals.”

    Dante: “Participating in the Pac-10 will aid the Utes in recruiting a few borderline "secular" players who have no interest in honoring the fifth commandment (of God's Ten Commandments)…”

    Again, President Uchdorff: It “leads some to revel in their own perceived self-worth, accomplishments, talents, wealth, or position. They count these blessings as evidence of being “chosen,” “superior,” or “more righteous” than others. This is the sin of “Thank God I am more special than you.”

    Enough said.

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 27, 2013 4:40 p.m.

    Re:3grandslams, The Pac said nothing about BYU's Sunday play as it was never a point of discussion. However, the Utah media said plenty about byu's Sunday play. Huge difference. Over time, BYU fans have embraced the notion it as fact.

    There was no "smoke screen" regarding academics or research. The criteria upon which the Pac-10 Presidents and Chancellors based their decision was, in order of priority:

    1. Academics
    2. Research
    3. Athletic Prowess

    Most schools, BYU included, do not meet this stringent criteria particularly when it comes to research. Colorado? Outside of sports, you don't know much about Colorado.

    Just say..."Congratulations UofU" and stop with the pride as we have been asked to do.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Jan. 27, 2013 4:19 p.m.

    Just sitting down to watch Michigan vs. Illinios..... As Brad points out, I see the sadness in the players and standing room fan's faces for being forced to play on Sunday....a tear drips slowly down th check of coach Beilein.

    I hope some how, some way, the Utes can find a strength of making the best of of sinful situation.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Jan. 27, 2013 4:10 p.m.

    Is Rock suggesting the University adopt the values of the LDS Church?

    Is Rock suggesting the Jazz adopt the values of the LDS Church?

    Is he suggesting that in accord with the values of the LDS church he has never covered or reported on a Sunday athletic event?

    I'm guessing Rock will be there front and center during the Super Bowl next Sunday, and he will have no comment about the former BYU players performing in the game on Sunday.

    Keep your religious values to yourself Rock, and let others keep their values to themselves.

    I suggest that we refrain from passing judgment on the values of others?

    I suggest that we refrain from accusing others selling their souls to the devil?

    I suggest that if there are some whose values are offended when the Utes play of Sunday, that they simply cheer for the Utes on days other than Sunday.

  • Mount Olympus Salt Lake, UT
    Jan. 27, 2013 4:08 p.m.

    Re: 3grandslams

    Everyone knows that keeping the Sabbath day holy means commenting on Sports articles and watching BYU sports coaches shows.

    Oh yeah, and watching the Superbowl next week is ok, because Pitta is playing.

  • higv Dietrich, ID
    Jan. 27, 2013 2:56 p.m.

    Ray No BYU Athletes while they are at ByU compete on Sunday that I am aware of. No games are scheduled then. Food service, When they had dairy don't know if the do anymore, MTC Phone Directory people pre cell phone days maybe now of course they worked sundays. Some jobs require 24 hour service. Same as Police or Medical people. What someone does when they leave is up to them.

    As for the Sabbath I remember tracting on SAturday and some 7th day Adventist was going to the beach. Like LDS diffrent commitments of sabbath on there religion. Jews maybe same way. Kid could not do Friday night or Saturday Afternoon school activities. A 7th day adventist school can't compete at State Tournament for those reasons. Same reason Byu won't compete on Sunday as instituion. Doctrine of LDS church what individuals do is up to them.

  • 3grandslams Iowa City, IA
    Jan. 27, 2013 2:48 p.m.

    re:myperspective...nice try. Why don't you write Elder Uchtdorf and ask how he feels about keeping the sabbath holy?

    No conspiracy? Which articles during that time period did you decide to ignore? The PAC was very clear about BYU's Sunday play. Don't believe the smoke screen of "academics and research". Why in your pride is it important to insinuate BYU is 'not worthy" of the PAC? I can't believe for a minute you really believe BYU wasn't discriminated against, especially when compared to Colorado.

    Why are you trying to diminish and tear down others in a misguieded and unworthy attempt at self-elevation.

  • 3grandslams Iowa City, IA
    Jan. 27, 2013 2:41 p.m.

    Theres a reason BYU is not in the PAC 12 and it's ALL about Sunday play. Either that's true or Cal and Standford were lying.

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 27, 2013 2:29 p.m.

    The underlying objective of this article is at the end… “There's a reason the Utes are in the Pac-12 and BYU isn't, and part of it is Sunday play.”

    Why do we find it so difficult to simply say…congratulations U of U for your inclusion in the Pac-12? Why can we not acknowledge that the criteria, off the field of competition, set by the Presidents and Chancellors of the Pac-10 was to further the mission of academics and research by the member institutions; it had nothing to do with Sunday play. There was no conspiracy against BYU. Being numbered among the finest is a blessing not only for the UofU but also for the state of Utah, of which BYU is a part.

    President Uchtdorf, October 2010 GC… “[P]ride turns to envy: they look bitterly at those who have better positions, more talents, or greater possessions than they do. They seek to hurt, diminish, and tear down others in a misguided and unworthy attempt at self-elevation.”

    BYU fans…let’s simply say…”well done, U of U.”

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Jan. 27, 2013 2:02 p.m.

    All the non mormons and the rest of the world can only shake our heads and sigh...

    Not only does the PR machine that represents bYu ring their hands and worry about their best interests.... thy worry about everyone elses as well.

  • Utes home for the holidays Sandy, UT
    Jan. 27, 2013 1:55 p.m.

    @RayVauggen,

    See "Sports Are Great's" comments. A Ute at church today told me he didnt like the Sunday games.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 27, 2013 1:39 p.m.

    Joe, there are a total of zero "Pac-12 banners downtown right now.

    The fact that you are so bothered by light pole signs speaks volumes about the bitterness and jealousy of BYU fans. The signs have a drum-and-feather and the text "Home of the Utes" with a smaller PAC-12 logo underneath it all....but for some reason that is all you can see.

  • kitsutsuki South Jordan, Utah
    Jan. 27, 2013 12:27 p.m.

    Spokane Ute - Stop feigning ignorance as to how this works. The LDS Church controls BYU and BYU will NEVER play on Sunday. End of story.

    The LDS Church does not control the lives of individual members, irrespective of where they went to school. Each is free to chose for himself - and I say that without making any judgments of those who have professions that require work on Sunday.

    This has nothing to do with Jimmer, Pitta or any other professional athlete who plays on Sunday. There is no double standard here - and you know it.

  • ray vaughn Ogden, UT
    Jan. 27, 2013 12:18 p.m.

    I find it interesting that the people who are complaining about the University of Utah playing a Sunday game are commenting on a story that appeared in a Sunday edition of the Deseret News. Do you realize that employees of the paper have to work on Sunday to publish the paper? Do you realize that when you watch KSL television or listen to KSL radio or any of the other media outlets that people are working on Sunday? If you watch the tabernacle choir on television or listen to the btoadcast on Sunday employees are working on the Sabbath.The LDS church, which owns and operates BYU, has many commercial enterprises that operate 7 days a week. Many LDS/BYU athletes compete on Sunday in their job. If those who are bitterly opposed to Utah playing a game on Sunday it would seem they would also opposse any business that requires their employees to work on Sunday. Or is it more of a matter of bashing the way the University of Utah?

  • Sports Are Great Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 27, 2013 11:11 a.m.

    Spokane, and yet many of your own will likely not go to the Sunday games. So as much as you would like to believe this is a byu only issue, some of your own fans won't go. I am happy that it makes you upset that some people don't like Sunday games. Thanks for being bitter. I like that you are unhappy!

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 27, 2013 10:45 a.m.

    "hypocritical institutions that preach acceptance of all, but discriminate if you are not like them"

    Couganate:

    Funny, the exact same thing could be said of BYU fans and the "holier-than-thou" comments on this article.

    Oh wait, maybe that's who you WERE referring to.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Jan. 27, 2013 10:41 a.m.

    I find this so stupid and hypocritical of BYU fans. Do they not watch the Super Bowl? Of course they do. Does the Jimmer play on Sunday? Of course he does. Does Dennis Pitta play on Sunday? Of course he does. What a funny double standard; come to the 21st century...sheesh!

  • Dante Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 27, 2013 10:22 a.m.

    Participating in the Pac-10 will aid the Utes in recruiting a few borderline "secular" players who have no interest in honoring the fifth commandment (of God's Ten Commandments). Interestingly, it will give BYU a leg up in recruiting local high school stars who do desire to keep the Ten Commandments. Reminds me of Joshua's famous declaration, "Choose ye this day . . .."

  • COUGARNATE Lyman, WY
    Jan. 27, 2013 9:56 a.m.

    All the more proof the only reason why BYU is not in the PAC is because of the religious thing. I think it is hilarious that all these Utes fans were denying that was the reason BYU wasn't in that conference. Now we know for sure. The PAC 12 is a conference full of liberal, biased, hypocritical institutions that preach acceptance of all, but discriminate if you are not like them, just like all liberals.

  • Robert Johnson Sunland, CA
    Jan. 27, 2013 8:27 a.m.

    Bottom line Brad.....As much as you hate the UTES...one thing that even you know down deep and that is, Sunday play in the Pac-12 is better any day of the week than playing in some po-dunk obscure mini-conference.

  • dumprake Washington, UT
    Jan. 27, 2013 6:27 a.m.

    This, and many other reasons, is why I love BYU. Utah is now in bed with the devil...hope they play to an empty building--the Pac12 would modify its scheduling in a New York minute if that happened and there would be no more Sunday games at the Huntsman Center.

  • indycrimson Franklin, IN
    Jan. 27, 2013 6:14 a.m.

    I've never read anything as disjointed and confusing as higv...wow...

    Anyway, I try to keep the Sabbath Holy and enjoy that change of pace once every 7 days. Basketball on Sunday for the Utes? It can be changed. NCAA athletics is about cash. If attendance and ratings are consistently low, things will change.

    its really up to the fans! Agency is a great thing, the free market system is a great thing. It will work out just fine.

    Utah is playing horrible...that might be the larger sin.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 26, 2013 11:44 p.m.

    Utah is a secular school, so there is absolutely no reason not to play on Sunday. If somebody chooses not to attend because of their religious beliefs that is absolutely fine. Everyone is free to make that choice for themselves.

    Go Utes!

  • Joe Schmoe Orem, UT
    Jan. 26, 2013 11:17 p.m.

    Ouch. Last place all for more money. Now they have to go against their principles as well.

    Tell me why they wanted to go to the Pac again?

    Put up another Pac 12 banner and throw a parade!

  • higv Dietrich, ID
    Jan. 26, 2013 10:53 p.m.

    Utah State had postseason game on Sunday one the the cbi games. Pocatello and Logan probably not well attended. LDS people shouldn't go to games on Sunday though some do. WAtching games on tv, doing work around home and car things like caffeine certian r rated movies well those are debated ad nauseum in LDS culture. Back page of Ensign talked about that.

    I doubt Utah will sell out or lose attendance. Until recently High School had to use light source 93 million miles away for football and had 7th day adventist on team. Traveled to afternoon games but if lights were closer couldn't play as sun up to sun down sabbath friday. Jews some I think are orhtodox in there sabbath but many I don't think are.

  • Chris B's momma Idaho Falls, ID
    Jan. 26, 2013 10:46 p.m.

    Sold your souls for a mess of pottage...and what a mess it is!

  • Michael J SANDY, UT
    Jan. 26, 2013 8:48 p.m.

    zzzzzzzzzz... Who cares. Not a big deal.