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Penalty could keep smokers out of health overhaul


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  • conservative scientist Lindon, UT
    Jan. 24, 2013 6:58 p.m.

    Finally, a provision in Obamacare that really makes sense.

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 25, 2013 10:24 a.m.

    If we don't be vigilent, the same thing will happen to gun owners.

    If your doctor asks, don't tell them, tell your spouse and kids likewise.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Jan. 25, 2013 10:44 a.m.

    Utahns should be extatic over this.

    They've been trying to pass legilation like this for over 40 years,
    and Pres. Obama - their sworn enemy - just hands it to them.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Jan. 25, 2013 11:29 a.m.

    Now they need to address obesity in the same manner.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Jan. 25, 2013 5:56 p.m.

    Conservatives shout and yell and whine about something called "personal responsibility."

    But when some socialistic communistic liberal scoundrel proposes something that requires it, they start shouting and yelling and whining about that.

    I guess that makes sense -- if you're nuts.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Jan. 25, 2013 8:39 p.m.

    old man,

    where are the conservatives complaining about it? certainly none of the comments on this board are complaining about smokers being held responsible for the results of their choices. But I guess this just gives you another chance to spew MSNBC and DNC hate speech.

  • Clydesdale Tooele, UT
    Jan. 25, 2013 10:23 p.m.

    I wonder if Obama will refuse his free health care since he's a smoker and all. Just sayin. Hypocrisy kind of sucks (no pun intended).

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Jan. 26, 2013 8:00 a.m.

    Smokers are going to be crucial to our evolution towards a single payer system. Of course, the only way that will work is that taxes on cigarettes, which have a direct cause/effect health relationship, will have to go way up.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Jan. 26, 2013 8:56 a.m.

    Lost, just wait . . . .

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Jan. 26, 2013 1:25 p.m.

    This first sounded good to me, but after some thought,--aren't smokers already paying a high tax for their cigarettes?

    Let's not over do it!

  • Rikitikitavi Cardston, Alberta
    Jan. 27, 2013 3:47 a.m.

    Massive federal and state taxes on cigarettes would be a great place to start.

  • tenx Santa Clara, UT
    Jan. 27, 2013 9:25 a.m.

    I guess when HE gets around to finally reading the Health Care Act he will fire the guy who put in the thing about smokers.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Jan. 28, 2013 10:30 a.m.

    Old man,

    still wating, have yet to see negative comments from conservatives.

  • DucatiCR Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 29, 2013 9:50 a.m.

    They already have a massive tax on cigarettes. Take the Smoker who smokes one Pack per Day

    Cigarettes are 6.35 Per Pack (for a Pack of Camels) 2.00 of that is State, and 2.00 is Federal Taxes.

    A Cigarette Smoker who smokes that one pack will spend 190.00 per month, and 2,286.00 per Year....

    As a smoker - which i heartily enjoy, i guess it is time to make my wife happy and quit.