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Published: Thursday, Jan. 24 2013 12:00 a.m. MST

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Emajor
Ogden, UT

A masterful letter, but don't expect a direct response to your inquiries. Vilifying Obama the way conservatives have requires a suspension of logic and perspective. You can expect exaggeration, hyperbole, deflection, and distraction. There will be hollering about a slide into communism that is not occurring, accusations about hatred of success, plenty of assumptions about liberals' unsavory motivations, useless rambling about the one true way to interpret the Constitution, and the stubborn insistence that we live in a black and white world.

ECR
Burke, VA

Excellent letter Andrew. And your inclusion of the word "paranoid" is especially apropos as we try to discern the reason for all the vitriol against the president and virtually every idea he has or he has put forward. Until we, as a nation - and I'm speaking directly to caucasian American citizens - come to terms with the fact that we are a diverse society and the demographics of this nation are changing, we will continue to be stuck in this devastating pattern of stagnation.

There is nothing to fear and those who fail to realize that in just a few years there will be no majority race in this nation will be forever losing ground. People of all races and colors want essentially the same thing we all want - a safe place to raise our children and opportunities to do so. A rising tide lifts all boats, as the saying goes, and so allowing and promoting the the improvement of all our citizens will only help us all.

Mohandis K. Ghandi, the great Mahatma, once said, "The world has resources enough for man's needs but not for man's greeds." Something to consider as we make our way.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

A good letter.

The hatred you see is a combination of racism, desperation, and the rejection of science. The most ill informed and poorly educated speak the loudest. Just tune into foxnews or am radio to witness this

Roland Kayser
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Don't be confused. A lot of people have gotten quite wealthy by promoting memes like Obama's coming to your house to get your gun. He's going to turn the U.S. government over to the U.N. He's going to ban the bible. He's going to declare himself dictator for life.

All of these items are preposterous, of course, but there are a lot of "low information voters" out there who can be made to believe this nonsense and donate money to people who claim to fight it.

Curmudgeon
Salt Lake City, UT

One of the best letters in recent memory. I'm proud to be related to you, Andy.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

There's so much angry noise out there it's hard to get things done. Kudos to the president and administration for moving ahead with things instead of languishing in the mess.

Eric Samuelsen
Provo, UT

Terrific letter. I don't get it either.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Great letter!

All I can do is add my Amen, and Amen!

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

Preying on people's fear is a huge money maker

Grundle
West Jordan, UT

Ah...pseudo-intellectualism at it's best!

"...I am unable to see how the recent executive orders and suggestions of President Obama on gun control might infringe upon our constitutional rights or weaken our ability to defend ourselves."

Had this been the content and purpose of this letter, I might have agreed(somewhat)

But then...

"...visceral hatred...", "...rather capable and principled."

In other words, those who disagree with the writer's opinion that the President is "capable and principled" are exhibiting "visceral hatred" Not just disagreement, but hatred felt down to the soul!

"...paranoia..." "nefarious" "closet traitors", "secret agenda" "subvert..." "...rob us of our freedoms"

So anyone that believes that the intent of the rights granted to us was to prevent tyranny is paranoid and believes the government is full of closet traitors plotting to subvert the constitution. That is quite the leap!

"...simplistic political jingoism..." "...contribution...is confusion", "virtue and meaningful insight" "...slippery slope."

Name calling to diminish someone's opinion.

I am glad so many of you feel this letter represents your view. If I could have predicted who would agree with the letter, I would have come up with this list of posters.

one old man
Ogden, UT

An EXCELLENT letter.

Unfortunately, it is a very accurate description of many of our neighbors.

I pity those who live in a dark, fearful, paranoid world. It must be awful.

Yet that seems to be what most "conservatives" prefer.

For me and my family, I'll take the happiness and optimism that come with more progressive thinking.

Ajax
Mapleton, UT

Thank you Curmudgeon. The feelings on family ties are mutual.

Emajor
Ogden, UT

Grundle,
You just displayed the "pseudo-intellectualism" of which you criticize the author.

The author did not say that all who disagree with the President are exhibiting "visceral hatred", he said SOME. Important distinction. If you are not exhibiting "visceral hatred", he wasn't writing about you.

"So anyone that believes that the intent of the rights granted to us was to prevent tyranny is paranoid and believes the government is full of closet traitors plotting to subvert the constitution."

Nope, he didn't write that either. He was stating that if you think "the government is full of closet traitors plotting to subvert the constitution" then you are being paranoid. He did NOT write that anyone who supports 2nd Amendment rights is "paranoid". Another important distinction.

This writer is criticizing those particular conservatives who are using extreme rhetoric. He is not saying that all conservatives use extreme rhetoric. This letter apparently doesn't apply to you. But there are people to whom it does apply.

WHAT NOW?
Saint George, UT

@grumble

Thank you, for taking the time to comment.

The DN offered two articles, one Wednesday and one today, suggesting that the gop/cons might explore the possibility of some changes...

However...maybe not.

homebrew
South Jordan, UT

The republicans spent 8 years to vilify President Clinton every step of the way. RESULT? Balanced budget, afte 12 years of Reagan/ Bush out of control spending. With Obama it is the same thing. Somehow the GOP thinks that the whitehouse is theirs, and a black man has no business in there, unless he's mopping the floor! The National republican party is a joke! just look at the utah version ! Lee, Chaffetz, Hatch, Bishop. Let alone the local bunch on capital hill, with their new drink regulations and goofy bills they come up with year after year. Utah is a laughingstock, in other parts of the country. From mormonism to republicanism, the laughs just keep comming!

NedGrimley
Brigham City, UT

In all fairness, and in review of the continued one sided attitudes and comments that prevail on this and other boards, the following line helps understand why some thought this letter was great, and some didn't: "...especially apropos as we try to discern the reason for all the vitriol against the president and virtually every idea he has or he has put forward".

If we were all honest with ourselves, this statement should have read: "especially apropos as we try to discern the reason for all the vitriol against either side of any argument and virtually every idea either has or either has put forward."

No one out there can honestly claim the vitriol is dished out by only one side.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

homebrew
South Jordan, UT

Utah is a laughingstock, in other parts of the country. From mormonism to republicanism, the laughs just keep comming!

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Agreed.

You'd think that being voted "Best place to have a Business" year after year, that Utah would be the Chicago of Corporations and Businesses West of the Mississippi.

But everything you just said tells us WHY businesses FLEE here, rather than FLOCK here.

That...
and also having air quaility worse than 3rd world China.
Also something Republicans choose to either ignore or make worse.

NedGrimley
Brigham City, UT

"That...
and also having air quaility worse than 3rd world China.
Also something Republicans choose to either ignore or make worse."

Definitely all the hot air...from both sides. Though, I can see your point. Due to the overly proportionate number of Republicans in the state, it is obviously a Republican caused issue.

Ajax
Mapleton, UT

I often hear when Republicans are singled out for extremist behavior, "Well, both Republicans and Democrats are equally guilty." And certainly there are extremist elements on both sides, the ultra right and the ultra left. However, there are undeniable differences between the parties in the proportion of those identified as moderates and extremists. While the ratio of those recognized as extremists and moderates among Democrats has remained relatively stable over the last twenty years, the rise of extremism in the Republican party has recently skyrocketed to the point that the ultra right has become inordinately influential in party politics.

Now what is important to recognize is that extremism on either side has never sat well with the American public, which has, in aggregate, always favored more balanced, mature and responsible leadership. Consider, for example, the political fortunes of Barry Goldwater on the right and George McGovern on the left. And then there is the recent example of Mitt Romney who consistently pandered to Tea Party extremism.

What is evident is that if Republicanism is now able to achieve any relevancy, they will need to forsake their extremist inclinations for a more reasonable and fairer-for-all position nearer the center.

Emajor
Ogden, UT

HaHaHaHa,

Considering the only thing you were capable of doing in your comment is personally attacking the author and whatever your interesting concept of a liberal is, I'd say his letter IS brilliant. Do you have any intelligent rebuttal to his points, or are you just interested in clubbing the messenger like a caveman?

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