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Published: Wednesday, Jan. 23 2013 12:00 a.m. MST

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Screwdriver
Casa Grande, AZ

The anniversary of abortion? There are historical references of abortion in Egypt. Women have been having abortions in India since anyone there can remember with natural concoctions. Not to mention their outright infanticide issues.

Nobody likes abortion. But it's simply not an issue the government is prepared to ban because just like a "ban on guns" which wouldn't work, neither would a ban on abortion.

Can you really investigate every miscarriage as an illegal abortion when something as simple as a fall or herbal concoction can cause a miscarriage? Leave it up to women.

higv
Dietrich, ID

We Can't stop all crimes but can make laws against them.

George
Bronx, NY

Higv
Your right we can but abortion is not a crime and is protected under the consitution just like your precious guns. When you are willing to place the same type of rrestrictions on guns as already exist on abortion let me know we can talk, until then you do not hold any credability.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

@ George. How can you defend killing an unborn child and calling it a "right"? The blood of the unborn cries to God for justice!

George
Bronx, NY

@moutainman
Because do not start with the very subjective assumption that it is an "unborn child,." And no from past experience there is no reason to waist post trying to change your mind or mine on when life begins.

Mukkake
Salt Lake City, UT

Mountanman:
[How can you defend killing an unborn child and calling it a "right"?]

Is "unborn" the opposite of "undead"? Like reverse-zombies?

[The blood of the unborn cries to God for justice!]

Blood isn't capable of speech.

Women aren't just baby factories/farms. Their bodies aren't sacrifices to god(s). If they don't want to be pregnant, they shouldn't have to be. Some women can't afford, don't want to afford, the health costs of a pregnancy.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

Since 1976, the Deseret News reported that there has been 55,000,000 abortions in America. Let's do the math. 2012 - 1976 = 36 years. 55,000,000 / 36 = 1,528,000 abortions per year. 1,528,000 / 365 = 4,186 abortions per day. 4,186 / 30 = 139 kindergarten classrooms that will never be filled.

Look at the public outcry when many of the children in ONE classroom were senselessly killed! Look how the President is flying around the country demanding that we do something about that! Look how the Vice-President is stomping his feet and shouting that now is the time to stop these senseless killings.

Since December 14, 2012, there have been 8,372 "Sandy Hooks" in America. Where is the outrage for those 167,440 unborn children who were torn out of their mothers' womb?

It is incredible that the same people who demand the right to destroy the unborn with a vacuum or knife or drugs are the same people demanding that 330,000,000 Americans must give up their guaranteed right to keep and bear arms.

By midnight today, another 122 "Sandy Hooks" classrooms will be empty. Tomorrow, another 209 will be empty.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

@ George and Mukkake. You are betting the life and agency of an unborn child that life did not begin at conception? Who or what gives you that right to make the choice for other people? If you are wrong, what are the consequences of your actions? How will you answer to God for your actions in taking the life of another human being unborn or not? Abortion as a form of birth control is the ultimate act of selfishness and interferance! Like it or not, whether you believe it or not, we are all going to be accountable to God for our actions. Unfathomable risk you are taking with unborn people's lives! It is ironic to me that the only people who favor abortion as a form of birth control have already been born. Who speaks for the unborn other than God?

George
Bronx, NY

@mountain man

Did it ever occur to you that you maybe wrong and that your desire to limit others free agency may have consequences as well? Under what authority do you claim to limit the free agency of others? I do not tell others to have an abortion, I do not claim the right to make that those types of decisions for others and you do.

George
Bronx, NY

@mountainman

You also seem to be willfully ignoring that I do not accept you subjective premise that it iis an "unborn child. "

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

All this talk of innocent children.

20 children were gunned down in an elementary school just last month and people do nothing.

Mukkake
Salt Lake City, UT

Mountanman:
[Abortion as a form of birth control is the ultimate act of selfishness and interferance!]

I support a woman's right to make decisions regarding her individual body, health, and use there of. A person's body does not exist for the forcible use of any other person. It does not exist for another to use forcibly for sex (rape), forcibly for manual labor (slavery), or forcibly for birth.

I would feel far more disgusted with myself to force a person to use their body against their will. If a person doesn't have a right to self, than they don't have any rights.

A woman is not just a test-tube, she is sentient and her body is her own. She is not "borrowing" her body from the fetus, the fetus is "borrowing" her's, and she can reject that arraignment. She has the right to say no to sex, manual labor, and birth. Why do you care more about a person who doesn't exist then one who does? One that already has thoughts, feelings, and dreams.

I don't care what her reason is, she shouldn't even need to give one.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

George, George, George: Its not me interfering with the right of an person to be born! Its you who are doing that! I want every person conceived to have a birthday! And you have no right to deny them that right! And once again, you do NOT get to decide when conception occurs, that's way, way above your pay grade and for you to do so is evil and wickedness!

airnaut
Everett, 00

I am no more "alive" at one cell,
Than I am finally "dead" at one cell.

The LDS Church's official policy regarding when and under what circumstances aborations may take place is still allowed under the Roe v. Wade ruling.

Rape, Incest, Life and Health of the Woman, and viability of the fetus are still Constitutional and NOT a sin - evern to Momrons - no matter what false doctrine Mike Richards continues to preach.

When the Prophet tells us to name and seal the "unborn" - including miscarriages - and disallows for ALL abortions for any reason whatsoever, per the offical GOP platform -- then I will flip over to the darkside.

airnaut
Everett, 00

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah
Since 1976, the Deseret News reported that there has been 55,000,000 abortions in America. Let's do the math....

Ok, thanks for using math to prove that at least 27,500,000 of them were by Republicans.

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

D&C (dilation and curettage) is a medical procedure commonly used for miscarriages.

Roe v. Wade Constitutionally affirms and protects that a woman and her Doctor can't go to jail for performing one.

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

Once again we witness the All-or-Nothingisms with total lack of compromise of some extremists [and it seems to emit mostly from the uber-far-right]:

Federal Budget = all or nothing.
Elections = all or nothing.
Guns = all or nothing.
Gay rights = all or nothing.
abortion = all or nothing.

Only a Sith deals in absolutes ~ Obi Wan Kanobi

Irony Guy
Bountiful, Utah

The abortion rate has dropped nearly in half in the last 20 years. Why? Couldn't it be at least in part the result of better sex ed? Shouldn't we be investing more in that? We also ought to educate kids in marriage and family success.

FT
salt lake city, UT

The best course is for pro-lifers to continue to persuade people on making the right choice once they get pregnant. But, for them to control the only choice goes against free will, the rights of a woman, and what America stands for. If they believe that is murder, that is their right but it is not shared by the fetus's mother or the law of the land.
In addition to trying to persuade pregnant women on carrying the baby to full term, they should support the use of contraceptives to avoid unwanted pregnancy. But, it seems that a lot of pro-lifers are the same people who disagree with birth control, planned parenthood or insurance mandates supporting prevention.

higv
Dietrich, ID

Were in the consitution is there a right to an abortion? Illegal abortions will occur just as illegal theft occurs. However with punishment there will be less of it. Besides abortion is unconstitional roe vs wade as didn't the 9th and 10th amendment prohibit the supreme court in meddling in that issue.

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