Published: Wednesday, Jan. 23 2013 12:00 a.m. MST
The anniversary of abortion? There are historical references of abortion in
Egypt. Women have been having abortions in India since anyone there can remember
with natural concoctions. Not to mention their outright infanticide issues.Nobody likes abortion. But it's simply not an issue the government
is prepared to ban because just like a "ban on guns" which wouldn't
work, neither would a ban on abortion.Can you really investigate
every miscarriage as an illegal abortion when something as simple as a fall or
herbal concoction can cause a miscarriage? Leave it up to women.
We Can't stop all crimes but can make laws against them.
HigvYour right we can but abortion is not a crime and is protected under
the consitution just like your precious guns. When you are willing to place the
same type of rrestrictions on guns as already exist on abortion let me know we
can talk, until then you do not hold any credability.
@ George. How can you defend killing an unborn child and calling it a
"right"? The blood of the unborn cries to God for justice!
@moutainmanBecause do not start with the very subjective assumption that
it is an "unborn child,." And no from past experience there is no reason
to waist post trying to change your mind or mine on when life begins.
Mountanman:[How can you defend killing an unborn child and calling it a
"right"?]Is "unborn" the opposite of
"undead"? Like reverse-zombies?[The blood of the unborn
cries to God for justice!]Blood isn't capable of speech.Women aren't just baby factories/farms. Their bodies aren't
sacrifices to god(s). If they don't want to be pregnant, they
shouldn't have to be. Some women can't afford, don't want to
afford, the health costs of a pregnancy.
Since 1976, the Deseret News reported that there has been 55,000,000 abortions
in America. Let's do the math. 2012 - 1976 = 36 years. 55,000,000 / 36 =
1,528,000 abortions per year. 1,528,000 / 365 = 4,186 abortions per day. 4,186
/ 30 = 139 kindergarten classrooms that will never be filled.Look at
the public outcry when many of the children in ONE classroom were senselessly
killed! Look how the President is flying around the country demanding that we do
something about that! Look how the Vice-President is stomping his feet and
shouting that now is the time to stop these senseless killings.Since
December 14, 2012, there have been 8,372 "Sandy Hooks" in America.
Where is the outrage for those 167,440 unborn children who were torn out of
their mothers' womb?It is incredible that the same people who
demand the right to destroy the unborn with a vacuum or knife or drugs are the
same people demanding that 330,000,000 Americans must give up their guaranteed
right to keep and bear arms.By midnight today, another 122
"Sandy Hooks" classrooms will be empty. Tomorrow, another 209 will be
@ George and Mukkake. You are betting the life and agency of an unborn child
that life did not begin at conception? Who or what gives you that right to make
the choice for other people? If you are wrong, what are the consequences of your
actions? How will you answer to God for your actions in taking the life of
another human being unborn or not? Abortion as a form of birth control is the
ultimate act of selfishness and interferance! Like it or not, whether you
believe it or not, we are all going to be accountable to God for our actions.
Unfathomable risk you are taking with unborn people's lives! It is ironic
to me that the only people who favor abortion as a form of birth control have
already been born. Who speaks for the unborn other than God?
@mountain manDid it ever occur to you that you maybe wrong and that
your desire to limit others free agency may have consequences as well? Under
what authority do you claim to limit the free agency of others? I do not tell
others to have an abortion, I do not claim the right to make that those types of
decisions for others and you do.
@mountainmanYou also seem to be willfully ignoring that I do not
accept you subjective premise that it iis an "unborn child. "
All this talk of innocent children.20 children were gunned down in
an elementary school just last month and people do nothing.
Mountanman:[Abortion as a form of birth control is the ultimate act of
selfishness and interferance!]I support a woman's right to make
decisions regarding her individual body, health, and use there of. A
person's body does not exist for the forcible use of any other person. It
does not exist for another to use forcibly for sex (rape), forcibly for manual
labor (slavery), or forcibly for birth.I would feel far more
disgusted with myself to force a person to use their body against their will. If
a person doesn't have a right to self, than they don't have any
rights.A woman is not just a test-tube, she is sentient and her body
is her own. She is not "borrowing" her body from the fetus, the fetus is
"borrowing" her's, and she can reject that arraignment. She has the
right to say no to sex, manual labor, and birth. Why do you care more about a
person who doesn't exist then one who does? One that already has thoughts,
feelings, and dreams.I don't care what her reason is, she
shouldn't even need to give one.
George, George, George: Its not me interfering with the right of an person to be
born! Its you who are doing that! I want every person conceived to have a
birthday! And you have no right to deny them that right! And once again, you do
NOT get to decide when conception occurs, that's way, way above your pay
grade and for you to do so is evil and wickedness!
I am no more "alive" at one cell, Than I am finally "dead"
at one cell.The LDS Church's official policy regarding when and
under what circumstances aborations may take place is still allowed under the
Roe v. Wade ruling.Rape, Incest, Life and Health of the Woman, and
viability of the fetus are still Constitutional and NOT a sin - evern to Momrons
- no matter what false doctrine Mike Richards continues to preach.When the Prophet tells us to name and seal the "unborn" - including
miscarriages - and disallows for ALL abortions for any reason whatsoever, per
the offical GOP platform -- then I will flip over to the darkside.
Mike RichardsSouth Jordan, UtahSince 1976, the Deseret News reported
that there has been 55,000,000 abortions in America. Let's do the
math....Ok, thanks for using math to prove that at least 27,500,000
of them were by Republicans.
D&C (dilation and curettage) is a medical procedure commonly used for
miscarriages.Roe v. Wade Constitutionally affirms and protects that
a woman and her Doctor can't go to jail for performing one.
Once again we witness the All-or-Nothingisms with total lack of compromise of
some extremists [and it seems to emit mostly from the uber-far-right]:Federal Budget = all or nothing.Elections = all or nothing.Guns =
all or nothing.Gay rights = all or nothing.abortion = all or
nothing.Only a Sith deals in absolutes ~ Obi Wan Kanobi
The abortion rate has dropped nearly in half in the last 20 years. Why?
Couldn't it be at least in part the result of better sex ed? Shouldn't
we be investing more in that? We also ought to educate kids in marriage and
The best course is for pro-lifers to continue to persuade people on making the
right choice once they get pregnant. But, for them to control the only choice
goes against free will, the rights of a woman, and what America stands for. If
they believe that is murder, that is their right but it is not shared by the
fetus's mother or the law of the land. In addition to trying to
persuade pregnant women on carrying the baby to full term, they should support
the use of contraceptives to avoid unwanted pregnancy. But, it seems that a lot
of pro-lifers are the same people who disagree with birth control, planned
parenthood or insurance mandates supporting prevention.
Were in the consitution is there a right to an abortion? Illegal abortions will
occur just as illegal theft occurs. However with punishment there will be less
of it. Besides abortion is unconstitional roe vs wade as didn't the 9th
and 10th amendment prohibit the supreme court in meddling in that issue.
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