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Published: Tuesday, Jan. 22 2013 12:00 a.m. MST

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Mountanman
Hayden, ID

He is only a "great president" to the 47% who pay no federal income taxes and are getting a free ride, they love him and he loves them! As someone once said, "its difficult not to love someone who loves you". It makes for a great romance, but does not make a great leader for those who have to pay the bills. I doubt our grandchildren will love Obama, considering the national debt they will inherit from him.

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

I usually appreciate Samuelsons opinion. One of the few conservatives I'll read all the way through and consider. This is just sour grapes. Sour grapes of the worst kind. By his own definition he says greatness is rising to the occassion of the times and then declares that Obama won't have that opportunity in the next four years, then moves on to talk about things like a nuclear Iran.

Wow, are republicans ticked off by losing this election..top to bottom.

Star Bright
Salt Lake City, Ut

Wow we are ticked off! Not because we lost the election, but because our country may never survive the divide that this president causes every day by pitting rich against poor, blacks against whites, illegals against American citizens. Instead of standing there and saying he is the president for the entire country he divides.
We are ticked because our children will be paying for the debt we are amassing. There has been no budget for 4 years now. 0bama doesn't think there is a spending problem and so he will spend, after all it's not his money. Yes, even all the money he spends on his vacations is not his money.
Yes, we are ticked because we see what he is doing to our country and the Constitution!

Thinkin\' Man
Rexburg, ID

Obama's legacy will be debt so big it can never be paid, resulting in the economic downfall of the United States. We're already there, yet so many cannot see it.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

No talk of war in the inauguration speech yesterday...that's pretty great.

Mark B
Eureka, CA

Yes, once more the Obama haters jump into prediction mode, in which everything is blackness, gloom, failure and sorrow. Better yet, no one holds these brave posters responsible for their predictions if they prove inaccurate. I wonder what they were saying four years ago? I wonder what investment advice they were giving out as the second GWB administration turned to its last two years? Well, whatever it was, I'm sure THEY were sure about it.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

@ Mark. Be patient! Obama has only had 4 years to rack up the national debt at a record pace. Think of what he can accomplish in that area in another 4 years; $20 trillion, $25 trillion? After all, didn't he say in his inaugural speech, "The possibilities are unlimited"? By the way, what your state's debt up to now?

Mark B
Eureka, CA

CA debt? Ask Mitt. He lives here now.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

Want to talk about 47% of Americans who have not paid taxes? Ask Mitt Romney. He paid zero taxes from 1996-2002. Often with off shore accounts in Switzerland and the Cayman islands.

Regan tripled the national debt.

Bush doubled the national debt.

Obama, has done neither.

So, why blame Obama for the debt? What makes Obama different?

JimInSLC
Salt Lake City, UT

First, I do not blame Obama for the debt. All Presidents, their administrations, and Congresses that have added to the debt are responsible for their share. The American People (myself included), not caring enough about the affairs of our country to hold elected officials accountable are also responsible.

current National Debt, about $16.5 trillion dollars.
How much is each President responsible?
Reagan (8 years, tripled the debt), accounts for $2 trillion of the total debt.
G.W.Bush (8 years, doubled the debt), accounts for $4.8 trillion of the debt.
Obama (4 years), accounts for $5.6 trillion of the debt.

In half the time Obama spent more than bush and almost three times more than Reagan.

To be fair, much of Obama's spending is due to wars started under Bush, promised to be ended by Obama. A struggling economy which Pres. Clinton's repeal of Glass-Steagall Act and the financial industries greed and corruption built the bubble that caused the collapse. Which nobody has yet been held to account.

Obama's legacy will be the national debt and the collapse of the US economy. He may not totally deserve the credit but he will get the credit.

J Thompson
SPRINGVILLE, UT

Great people do great things.

What has Obama done that is "great"? He increased taxes on the poor and middle-class more than any other President in history with Obamacare. Is that "great"? He cost more jobs than any other President in history. Is that "great"? He presided over more foreclosures than any other President in history. Is that "great"? He blamed a movie for the deaths of our people in Benghazi while he refused to allow military force to be used to save them - while the target was being painted by a Navy Seal and while aircraft were within range to destroy the attackers. Was that great? He refused to visit the graves of 10,000 fallen soldiers in France. Was that great? He bowed before foreign kings. Was that great? He has been on the campaign trail since he entered office. Is that "great"?

Just why does he think he deserves to be considered "great". He's worst than mediocre.

Irony Guy
Bountiful, Utah

Obama's legacy will be a kinder, gentler, more mature America that does not impose its will on other peoples, that cares for its own, and that gradually and responsibly reduces its indebtedness. Most of all, the legacy of a great American who broke endless boundaries (mixed race, son of a single mother, disadvantaged background) and rose to the highest office in the land. He is the very embodiment of the American dream, and I would be proud if my grandchildren saw him as their model.

Howard Beal
Provo, UT

While I am not an Obama-hater like many on these blogs and certain in the Beehive State, I don't think, being as objective as possible, that he will go down in the great department. I am hoping that he makes it from below average to mediocre at this point. I won't say he's the worst like too many claim, that is because he isn't and people lack historical perspective generally. I mean, he's no James Buchanan, Warren Harding or Franklin Pierce. But let's not get him mixed up with Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, or George Washington either...

Thinkin\' Man
Rexburg, ID

Sadly, Irony Guy is not being ironic. To believe such fallacies is tragic for America.

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

Samuelson is showing his partinship by even claiming that Obama is comtemplating being great. I think what he does want to be is influential. Regan was influential..certainly not great. Obamacare, repealing don't ask don't tell, pushing for gay marriage, pushing for imigartion reform, and some gun restrictions, getting some highter taxes, and bending the deficit curve down certainly meets that criteria.

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

@jiminslc.

I have to agree with you. Although, to be more accurate, one must put things in todays dollars.

But, you are honest. Many would have people believe that Obama ran up the debt and no other president did.

In reality, congress spends every penny. They tax every dollar.

ECR
Burke, VA

Robert Samuelson should a book about all the ways to find fault with our current president. He hates him, plain and simple, and every word he writes should be considered with that in mind. As for the others writing on this subject it gets really tiring to hear the same nonsense about the economy. In January of 1981, the year Ronald Reagan took office under the guise of being a budget balancer, we had accumulated $1.0 T in debt - that's in the first 204 years of our history. That was the beginning of an irresponsible spending spree that has put us all in jeopardy. Reagan increased federal spending by 8.7% in his first term in office. George H. W. Bush increased by 5.4% during his term and Bill Clinton increased it by 3.9% during his second term in office. George W. Bush increased it by 8.1% in his second term and Barack Obama increased it by 1.4% in his first term.

He is not the big spender that everyone claims. He inherited a mess and we are on a slow path back to where we were. He's not interested in being great, just responsible.

Rikitikitavi
Cardston, Alberta

How do you explain all the voter fraud that was so rampant in the election? The level of voter corruption is so blatant and undeniable.

Mark B
Eureka, CA

Riki is going to have to be more specific, since there are next to no complaints from actual American parties on his accusations. Does Canada have their own right wing radio, or do they just borrow ours?

Tolstoy
salt lake, UT

Rikki
Blatant and undeniable? Then surely you will have no problem giving us some concert proof to prove your claims.

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