Pendergast,Tells you our voting system needs fixing, and why we have
First of all, it never was nor ever has been Hussein Obama's nation. The
United States of America belongs to all Americans, not just one.
The original US voters were not the poor and uneducated; they were those with a
stake in things. That changed with universal suffrage, and the Electoral
college was thought to be a way to ensure the "correct" candidate would
win, so the screaming masses could't put in some popular fellow.
Unfortunately, the parties co-opted that as well, and now, we DO have rule by
the uneducated masses; which, despite our democratic system, was never what the
founders anticipated, and which, as predicted by Washington and others has led
to factionalization, and the inability to be objective and do what is best for
ALL of us.Add in the lack of a real media to act as a voice, a lack
of questions asked and far too much editorializing and posturing for profit by
the talking heads on both sides of the questions, and political leaders who lead
not to improve our country, but to gain power and influence; and we get the
current state of affairs.Anyone willing to compromise at this point
is a fool, regardless of their position, This thing is broken, time to replace
at worf"...people on the dole shouldn't vote. This way,
votes can't be bought."But, special interests, lobbyists,
PAC's, etc.. are okay?
cavetroll,Since when is a loophole a government dole?You
don't think Obama, Pelosi, and Reid don't use loopholes?LDS Liberal:Glad the Constitution means something to you, and yes,
people on the dole shouldn't vote. This way, votes can't be bought.
If "oppression and tyranny" are genuine and not just conservative
hyper-speech, then all discussion of such things is forbidden. Just posting
about such terms means that, wherever and when ever they have existed, it
isn't HERE or NOW. If Tom really thinks that the president is actively
working toward general ruin, then he should start looking into the healthcare
options of Costa Rica and the free economy of Bangladesh.
When conservatives start deciding who should be able to vote we are doomed as a
nation. Democracy will be replaced by a Plutocracy. Our country's freedom
is already under attack with the GOP's unspoken strategy of voter
suppresion. When it comes to open, fair elections all Americans should not give
an inch. If we do our country sezizes to exist.
Oppression and tyranny for four more years. 8% (plus) unemployment, Trillion
Dollar deficits and 1% growth are the new norm. Last week even the GAO audit
concluded that, absent policy changes, the United States is headed for fiscal
disaster. Obama will not stop until he fundamentally transforms this country to
a place we want no part of.
@ conservative scientist, complete and utter nonsense. I reiterate my earlier
point. Please, no more conditional patriotism.
If worf is looking for conflicts, then would defense contractor employees,
military and NRA employees be disqualified from voting, too? The HS grad part
might seem to make more sense, but...why HS, when that was once a goal not
everyone could reach? And it just might cut off a number of deep south GOP votes
in the Party's new homeland.
@worf"Because of a conflict of interest, people on the dole
should not be voting." Should that also include those who benefit from tax
loopholes because they "lobbied" a congressman? Or how about those
CEO's whose companies have government contracts?
Meanwhile -- I'm thoroughly enjoying watching watching the
Republicans canibalize themselves in their political purity witch-hunts for
RINOs, let alone trying to compromise and get alone with the majority of
us "other" Americans.worf -- Where does either of your
silly proposals pass the Constitutional muster?Thanks again for trying to
Trample all over it.
It was stated we don't know what the rules are. But the rules are whatever
BO states they are. He and his administration are not constrained by congress,
the constitution, or anyone else. Just listen to what the President is saying
and that is what the rules are.
Yes, duly elected. Twice. Obama got more votes on his
2nd term, than his 1st.
Why is this under the NEWS section and not the EDITORIAL section?
Duly elected?Because of a conflict of interest, people on the dole
should not be voting. Neither should those without at minimum of a HS
"To get things done," says Connolly, "you need other people."Not so says FOX News, the RNC, Repub losing candidates, as well as the
lowest rated in years Repub led/dominated House etc., etc., etc..Repubs lampooned that one pretty good during the last election cycle.Next..."...a story of clustering in two camps. You inherited
deep divisions, and you say you are trying to make things better. But, to hear
your adversaries tell it, you have made them worse..."What else
are adversaries supposed to say?Next..."...I'm
looking for a little more thoughtfulness and discussion and compromise and a
little less knee-jerk political posturing,...".Repubs say they
will never compromise.Next..."...Both sides have
strong, passionate arguments. Both sides make sense — some of the
time...".Isn't that the nature of strong passionate
argument?Next?"...remember, though more than half of
us think the country's on the wrong track, more than a third think
it's on the right one...".Checking the vote totals, I would
say a little more than half think it's on the right one and a little less
than half think it's on the wrong one.
I'd love it if we could be a bit more thoughtful and introspective in our
response to national affairs, too. Unfortunately, those days are gone. Everyone
has a stage now, and some can scream pretty loud from it. Consensus is almost
impossible anymore, for this President and anyone else to hold the office going
forward. I'm not sure what the answer is yet, but I'm working on it.
This is certainly not something new. We are now, and have always been a divided
nation. Did anyone out there pay any attention to the Lincoln film? What about
the country prior to Lincoln's presidency?As a teenager, one who was
instructed by teachers to provide current events for class...Parents would
"guide" me to the news articles and express their views. It is still
easy to recall my predominantly Republican parents, grandparents and extended
family, loudly express their unhappiness about the President of the United
States and others in government positions. Many times it mattered not who was in
charge. Republicans and Democrats were both "wrong" in their policies.
Politics makes great conversation and it is really exciting when there are
lots of differing views. Ruined family gatherings sometimes, but it sure was
wild, crazy and fun!Our news cycle is different now. We simply hear more
news much more often.
Yes a glimpse reveals not at meaningless symbolic war In Iraq, winding down the
other one, working on slowing gun violence, economy coming back after being
torched by banks and hedge funds.
All in all, I am optimistic about our future. The biggest problem we have is
those who refuse to extend the same respect to a duly elected President of the
party other than their own, and who listen with rapture to hate radio and TV.
Their corrosive partisanship has a demoralizing effect on the people and
suppresses the optimism that we have historically have had as a nation. Our
greatest accomplishments have come when we have sought change to solve our
problems rather than do nothing. This Administration is trying to make things
better for our future and was elected by a majority of the people to do just
that. I plan to support our leaders, even if at times I may want a different
course of action. I think the nation will be better for it.
This article reinforces the truth of strong polarization. The basic foundation
of this dispute lies in urban versus rural America. Here in Missouri, the
legislature is controlled by rural Republican interests while the governor has
been reelected on the platform of a rural Democrat who is working with urban
interests. In reality, there are doubts about his true intentions. What remains
in Missouri as in many areas such as Utah is the apparent lack of any
willingness to compromise from these two factions. Both groups have strong
philosphical beliefs which on first view do not allow for any type of compromise
to either core belief.
Well that was a waste of my time.