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Published: Wednesday, Jan. 16 2013 12:00 a.m. MST

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Mike in Cedar City
Cedar City, Utah

It's way past time for change. This is a sheep and goats issue. You can be on the side of life, our you can choose to support the evil conspiring men of the NRA and Gun industry. There is no middle grownd. I call on all Utahns to be on the side of life, and I believe that those that support the evil empire either by direct oposition or by their silence, individually or collectively, will have to answer for that failure in the next life. So, what will it be Utah, are you with the sheep or with the goats?

I call upon our elected congressman to support the President plan without significant modification.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Why don't we outlaw all cars that go faster than 5 miles per hour? Those are way more dangerous and kill way more people than cars that only go under 5 miles per hour.

raybies
Layton, UT

will this bill cost taxpayers 500 Million? Why not charge the gun owners to run the program, rather than have taxpayers spend more on administration fees.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@mike in cedar city

What foolish nonsense.

Mike in Texas
Cedar City, Utah

Chris B. Typical NRA sophestry. Cars are not produced with the specific intent to kill. Guns are, especially assault weapons. Count you with the goat herd. To quote the president "we will be judged by this".

Sneaky Jimmy
Bay Area, CA

@Mike in Cedar City. A couple of points for you to ponder:
Do you believe the Constitution was inspired by God? (your religion does see Doctrine and Covenants 101:80)
Do you believe the 2nd amendment is in the constitution for a reason?
Are you one of he evil and conspiring men that seek to deprive us of our God given rights?

MajMarine
Salt Lake City, UT

Mike in Cedar City
Cedar City, Utah

"You can be on the side of life, our you can choose to support the evil conspiring men of the NRA and Gun industry"

Wow, Mike. Isn't hyperbole the best thing ever?

Tell me. How are they evil?

Actually, change NRA and Gun Industry to Congress and the Democratic party, and I'm right there with ya.

Moderate
Salt Lake City, UT

Chris B, your exaggerated example would be far more effective if you followed up with an alternate solution. Your position that "we can't solve anything, so why even try?" is tiresome. People want action. The people of New York took action; may the United States follow suit.

patriot vet
Cedar City, UT

Common sense must prevail in the issue of guns, society and safety. Without common sense, it is only a matter of time before the NRA begins defending the right to have a rocket launcher, bazooka or armed drone. Frankly, many countries have armed MILITIA (that are not national military forces) that have these weapons. But somehow I doubt that the Founding Father's definition of regulated militia had that in mind. They were people of common sense.

Obama's plan is sensible and balanced. It does not threaten gun rights, nor "violate" the Second Amendment. We need to implment these changes for our own safety.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

Even the great Obama must know you can not legislate moral behavior. All this will not stop criminal behavior and is only a ineffective symbolic gesture to make the left feel better. In the meantime the rights of good Americas are trampled on once again.

Beverly
Eden, UT

I strongly support the President's initiatives to curb gun violence. As a long time member of the NRA, and a citizen of Utah, I will do all I can to get our elected congressmen to support the President's recommendations. I own guns and this presidential action will not hurt my ability to hunt, target practice, or protect my family. It is about time we, as a country, did something to stop gun violence in America. With over 30,000 people being killed each year, with a gun, in the United States, we are finally acting in a positive manner. Please support the President, and help curb gun violence.

Mash76
Provo, UT

I agree some things need to be done but making certain guns and magazines illegal won't do anything. It won't stop there once they get a start on outlawing certain items. The criminals will still use whatever they can to hurt or kill. The only ones that follow the law are law abiding citizens.

DN Subscriber 2
SLC, UT

Facts matter, especially when lives are at stake.

Chicago has essentially a TOTAL gun ban. And, more than 500 killing last year, more than the number of allies troops killed in Afghanistan where every goat herder has an assault rifle. "Gu free" Washington DC is another murder capitol.

The CDC did a study of all types of gun control and found (much to their disappointment) that NONE of them had a significant reduction in violent crime. Thus, the "solution" proposed by Obama are not solutions at all, but repetition of past failed schemes, with a different goal, that of disarming citizens who may refuse to yield to a tyrannical government- the real purpose of the Second Amendment as drafted by the Founders.

Criminals and crazy people do not obey laws. Gun crime will never go away, and the "war on guns" will be no more successful than the liberal's fantasies that wars on "poverty" or "drugs" would result in peaceful, prosperous land covered with flowers and prancing unicorns.

The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun, is a GOOD guy with a gun. Disarming the good guys doe not make them safer.

Mike in Cedar City
Cedar City, Utah

Sneaky Jimmy. point one. Yes insofar as they were able to recieve inspiration. However, part of the constitution says that it is about "Life, Liberty, etc. and we do have the inspired ahility to change it and congress is given the power to pass statutes in support of its provisions.

Point 2 the Second Amendment is in the constitution for a reason. That reason seems to be that citizens can have guns. But the 2nd Amendment was not cognizant of the deadly power of modern weapons. Congress can and should regulate them in the interest of presenving the rights to Life. Life was placed first in the constitution for a reason, because without life there is no liberty, and how happy do you think the parents and other relatives are about the slaughter that has gone on for far too long?

Point 3. If being on the side of policies that reduce the slaughter of innocent children then call me an evil and conspiring person.

MajorMariine. Yes, perhaps hyperbole, but we need a wakeup call children are dead. and many more will die if we do nothing.

Duckhunter. Foolish is as foolish does.

Conner Johnson

Lets not forget that people had muskets and pistols when the 2nd Amendment was written.

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: "This is a sheep and goats issue."

I really don't want to be either.

Uniformed liberal sheep, who blindly follow an uniformed or nefarious shepherd -- like the President -- will come to rue the decision.

And, many liberals will be identified as the goat of this era, for giving up freedom, in exchange for empty promises of temporary security, supporting the President's dictatorial, illegal, and unconstitutional measures.

I think I'll opt to stand with the scores of millions of Americans that are outraged by the President's high crimes and misdemeanors, and who will fight his malfeasance by every legal means.

freedom in 2017
paradise, UT

just how would one of yomama's actions have stopped Sandy Hook? He is absolutely clueless. why doesn't he go after the 500 plus annual gun killings in Chicago. Most are handguns and handguns are outlawed in Chicago. We only have four more years of a guy that is qualified to run a c-store.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

@Moderate,

What measures are currently being taken to curb the deaths of thousands due to cars that go over 5 miles per hour?

Safety ads on tv?

If that is good enough to try and curb the thousands of deaths from cars that go over 5 miles per hour, why aren't those same measurements good enough for guns?

eastcoastcoug
Danbury, CT

This is such great news. Sadly for us Republicans, the Democrats have taken the higher ground on another common sense issue (remember civil rights, the environment, etc.). I don't get the mentality that says everything the other side is for we must be automatically against. There are some things that are just common sense. Putting limits on the kinds of weapons and ammunition we can get is one of them.

As great as the Constitution is, it is great because it establishes rule of law, and we the people set the laws and can change them. We don't have slavery any more either, although the Constitution ignored that too. The law abiding citizens and families of this country have suffered far too long at the ends of those on the fringes that want no restrictions whatsoever to their "freedoms". And let's stop using FEAR as the primary excuse for not doing anything.

Go Big Blue!!!
Bountiful, UT

Lets not forget that government had muskets and pistols when the 2nd Amendment was written.

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