Published: Wednesday, Jan. 16 2013 12:15 a.m. MST
I have no doubt that was is occurring here to Terry is the expiration of the
payroll tax cuts.You know.. those taxes that pay for SS and
Medicare. The 2 programs that are underfunded, and their funding (read taxes)
were cut previously under Obama.Neither party was big on extending
them.From the Wall Street Journal - "The
workers’ share of the Social Security payroll tax had been lowered by two
percentage points for the past two years, to 4.2% from 6.2%, amounting to an
annual income boost of $1,000 for a typical U.S. family earning $50,000 a
year."This in simply another case of one getting a TEMPORARY tax
cut, and then calling it a tax increase when it expires. And blaming Obama.
The social security tax cut was planned to be temporary.
I am sorry that you were not aware the payroll tax was going to return to the
rate it was when Obama took office. See, technically there was a sale on role
taxes where they were 2 percent lower than when Obama took office - and that
sale - or pay roll tax holiday expired December31st - your back to paying the
rate you paid when Obama took office.Not sure how you missed
it...... it has been plastered throughoutt the news for the last month
Anyone really thought 0bama told the truth? Just wait for the death panels - we
have so desensitized the people with abortion, I guess death panels for the
elderly is just another step. And as a Senior, I would like to thank those who
voted for 0bama and especially other seniors who thought we would not have to
pay 1 cent more, or that we could retain our doctors of choice. Wake up!
I don't know what kind of work you do, but based on the reasoning exhibited
on this letter, there are many professions in which I hope you are not engaged.
Two years ago, Obama convinced Congress to pass a bill which he then
signed into law to temporarily reduce the payroll tax rate by 2%. This
temporary tax reduction expired. Without action from Congress, there is nothing
the President can do about that tax rate - at least, not without overstepping
his Constitutional authority. The payroll tax did not go up - it
returned to its regular rate. This is not considered a tax increase but the end
of a tax holiday. Blaming Obama for things over which he has no
control indicates a lack of knowledge of how our form of Government works. And
if the only complaints you have against him are baseless fabrications, then he
must not be doing too bad of a job.
Terry, your taxes went up because the Payroll Tax holiday that President Obama
passed with a Democratic Majority in the House in 2009 has now expired. The
Republican led House of Representatives did not act in time to save it. This
was part of the tax cuts that the President wanted to preserve, but
Congressional Republicans were willing to let go so that they could preserve tax
cuts for the ultra-wealthy.
I expect the author intends to collect social security when he retires. If we
expect Social Security to be there for us, we have to pay for it.
Mr. Gunn apparently doesn't read this opinion page, nor any other news
outlet. This same, childish premise was presented in a letter just a few days
ago. I'm wondering why the Desreret News feels it necessary to present
worn out issues day after day. Are the writers of opinion letters so few and
far between that you need to have something just to fill the page?So
since we're restating old opinions here, let me make a point that was
probably made on the previous day. Yes, Mr. Gunn, you should thank the
president because his stimulus package included a holiday from payroll taxes
over the past two years. And so based on your statement, you probably avoided
paying over $1500 in payroll taxes over the past two years. What did you do
with that money? Did you pay off some debt? Did you take a family vacation?
Regarless of what you did with the money I hope you'll take the time to
write the president a personal note thanking him for your good fortune. The
president didn't raise your taxes but the holiday is over.
"Anyone really thought 0bama told the truth? Just wait for the death panels
"Oh yes, the infamous death panels. The part where doctors get
paid for the time that they spend discussing end-of-life options with the
family. This was sold to the unknowing as "death panels"Kind of sad when people call out other for not telling the truth, while
blatantly NOT telling the truth.
Government programs are great, as long as someone else has to pay for them.
It's different when we have to pay for them ourselves.The tax
increases which prompted the writer to complain are for Medicare and Social
Security. Even with the tax increases, these programs are under-funded. We
borrow money to pay for them. Which is the same as saying, our children and
grandchildren are going to have to pay for them. Medicare and Social Security
need to be reformed, but no politician will do it, because it would cost them
votes. Some politicians, like Obama, don't even admit that a problem
exists. If they talk about it at all, they pretend it can be solved by taxing
the rich. But, mathematically, there aren't enough rich people to make up
the shortfall.A real leader would go before the American people,
explain the problem clearly, and propose a solution behind which the nation
could unite. Instead, Obama demagogues the issues and tries to shift blame to
his political adversaries, and nothing constructive gets done. It's going
to be a long four more years.
It shouldn't have been cut two years ago. He throws little
scraps here and there to keep his constituents happy. None of these scraps
amount to anything other than votes. They clearly don't help the economy.
Terry needs to get off the foxnews/am radio kool-aid. The Payroll taxes
aren't going up. They are returning to the exact rate they were when Obama
made that promise. Lets suppose your local Harmons store sells
Chicken for $5. Monday-Friday they go for their normal price of $5. then, on
Saturday, they decide to have a promotion. They lower the chicken to $4. But
it's just a promotion, a temporary measure, and everyone (except for a very
small ill-informed minority of the population understands this). On
the next Monday, the price for chicken returns to the normal price of $5. Would
anyone in the right mind say that Harmons is increasing their prices? Absolutely
not. Yet, when the price increases to its normal cost this very small
ill-informed minority complains that the prices are increasing. Do
the attacks that this ill-informed minority carry any weight? Are they
legitimate? Do they really speak for the majority? Nope. Same thing
applies here. Obama didn't lie. Payroll taxes aren't
increasing. And the very small ill-informed minority should be ignored. Sorry
Terry, but Obama won. Get over it.
Terry is too young (or too partisan) to remember that the current program and
rates were set in place in 1983. From that date till the "tax holiday"
stimulus, that was what we all paid. Now that I am among those collecting
benefits, Terry thinks that the correct policy is to cut the payroll (Soc.
Sec.)tax AND complain that the program is underfunded and needs benefit cuts. No
wonder we can't get anything done in Washington. PS. Your
current rate would be that signed into law by President Reagan if that helps you
accept reality better.
This letter is completely foolish.The writer actually needs to thank
the GOP side of Congress. When Obama tried to get the 2% cut passed four years
ago, the GOP fought tooth and nail to stop it. Now, when they had a chance to
prevent the return of the 2% when it was due to expire, they did nothing.Actually, the 2% was a "tax holiday" intended to try to boost
the economy that had been trashed by President Cheney and his little friend.
Now it's necessary to let it expire because it is needed to fund Social
Security and other programs this writer will certainly want to be there when his
time comes to retire.One more Utahn has fallen for the propaganda of
Rather than complain and blame everything on Obama, why not thank him for giving
you a temporary payroll tax cut for 2 years? Don't you remember why you
got that 'raise' for the past 2 years?I do, and I thank President
Obama for that. Now, it's time to start paying full fare for the programs
that we all benefit from, and are being shortchanged from that temporary cut.
It's the responsible thing to do.
I'll bet in the same breath this letter writer complains about the growing
National deficient as well...
Terry Its to bad you dont understand how the government works. The Bush tax cuts
bankrupted our country. The rise in taxes you see is the end of an additional
tax break, from the Obmam administration, to help shore up the economy. The Bush
tax cuts need to expire on ALL of us. We havent paid a bill for 10 years, thanks
to them, and the unfunded wars he started. Terry do some fact checking, to find
out what your talking about before you open your mouth and insert foot!
NatePleasant Grove, UTGovernment programs are great, as long as
someone else has to pay for them. It's different when we have to pay for
them ourselves.The tax increases which prompted the writer to
complain are for Medicare and Social Security. Even with the tax increases,
these programs are under-funded. We borrow money to pay for them.----------------------No Nate. We actually borrow FROM Social
Security programs because we are still bringing in more than we pay out. And we
did NOT get a holiday for Medicare. That rate has remained constant. Honest.
So what if it's temporary. Does that mean it can't be extended, or
made permanent...if anything in DC is ever permanent. Obama, Democrats,
Republicans....what does it matter. They're all incompetent....a bunch of
crooks. Soooo, temporary or not....I'm getting less each month.
Haven't had a raise in 4 years...and probably another 4.Just
look at Social Security. That money you say we owe to support this wonderful
program doesn't even do so. It's spent by the crooks, only taking out
what they have to to keep the Ponzi scheme afloat, rather than being put into a
protected, controlled investment program that would actually give far larger
payments to SSA recipients in their old age.Good luck America.
@Che t matters because the letter writer inaccurately singled out Obama
for blame. republicans need to stand up and take responsibility for their role
in our broken government instead of always trying to displace blame on others.
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