Published: Saturday, Jan. 12 2013 12:00 a.m. MST
It was President Obama who got congress to enact the 2% rate reduction in SS
taxes. He stated right from the beginning that it would be a temporary measure
to help stimulate the economy, it was never intended to be permanent. The rate
has gone back to what it has been since 1983, as planned from the start.This letter is pure nonsense.
Because we all know Obama really does write all the laws himself and none of the
elected Congresspeople have anything to do with it other than voting for or
against it....Politics are so simple when you just blame the
President for everything!Oh - and of course, you know, that was a
statement from 2008 - before the payroll tax was reduced.... Does it going back
to where it was when he made that statement really count as an increase?
The president's enemies will stop at nothing, even to the point of making
themselves look ignorant and out of touch, to discredit everything he says. The
fact that this author has attempted to make it look like the end of the payroll
tax holiday was a surprise to everyone in the nation.No sir, only
those who are uninformed or those who think the rest of us are would attempt to
make that point. Read a newspaper: go online; educate yourself. Or do you need
someone to do that for you?
you can defend him all you want. The bottom line is he said no tax increase!
There is a tax increase! He lied plain and simple. He is the final player in the
system. He could have vetoed it. He has threatened to veto other legislation.
What happened. Typical liberal tactics. Defend the indefensible.
Hail to the chief, the chief can kicker, who chastises congress and tells them
he will not let them cut or even trim anything and get his signature on it. Higher taxes and heads in the sand will never fix this country's
spending problem and debt problem, or stop the consequences of those problems
from taking us down, at which point Obama will be seen as the presidential
failure he is. It will be little comfort to know the truth when it
is too late.
Just look at that fine suit of clothes the Emporer is wearing.
Yup. All Obama's fault. Yup.Apparently the writer of this
letter has never heard of Congress. Or the selfish scoundrels in the Republican
Party.Blind ignorance in rampant in Utah.
Re-read your own letter. The President said "under my plan..."Congress did not accept the President's plan; they created their own
plan.Congress raised taxes.
Hate to tell you, letter writer, but it was the Republicans who wanted the
payroll tax to go back up. I agree with them that it should have gone back up
(SS and Medicare were being shorted by the decrease), but it wasn't the
Dems who were pushing for that increase.
On Thursday, boneless pork chops at my local grocery store were $4.99/lb. On
Friday, they were buy 1 get 1 free, making the effect price $2.50/lb. On
Saturday, they returned to their regular price.According to the
letter writer and some of the commentators, my grocery store doubled the price
of pork chops in one day.No one really believes that when the price
of an item is reduced for a sale and then returned to its original price, that
the return to original price counts as an increase in the cost of the item. The end of the temporary payroll deduction is no different than the end
of the pork chop sale. The item returned to its regular rate/price, it did not
increase. To claim otherwise is to engage in a logical fallacy and indicates
that the author and his supporters have nothing real with which to attack the
President. Come on, you can't find something real with which to attack him
and have to use a fake increase in the payroll tax? Really? Perhaps you should
try harder. I voted for him and can find things he's done with which I
Despite what the President says Obamacare is a tax. So says the SCOTUS.Then there's the hidden tax of inflation.Obama signed SCHIP
legislation that raised the tax on smokes 3 days after taking office. Even
though most of us don't think smokers count for much - the fact is: 85% of
smokers earn less than 70k per year.Apparentally for liberals its
o.k. if Obama vetoes stuff THEY don't like. All the other tax and spend
bills that do wind up being passed are the fault of mean Republicans.
In retail it's called bait and switch. In Chicago politics it's called
business as usual or campaign promises and other myths.
Since Obama has lied to us about almost everything, I assume that this is what
those who voted for him wanted. I can't imagine that anyone really expected
the flip flopper in chief to honestly tax his rich Hollywood friends, etc. and
to actually give breaks to the poor and stop the chronic waste. So, if
you're unemployed or feeling that pinch, remember to thank your friendly
Obama supporter...if you can find one.
This is a campaign promise from 2008. The payroll tax is the exact same now as
it was then. It's not a broken promise. Maybe you all would be better
suited going after Republicans asking why their pledge to not raise taxes does
not actually ban them from letting payroll taxes go up (then again, I could just
tell you that Norquist et al don't care one iota about a tax that
disproportionately affects the lower/middle classes since income over 120ish
thousand isn't subject to it.
I'm amazed at those of you who will defend this cool college professor
president regardless of what he does. His statement is clear about no tax
increases for the lower income brackets. If he doesn't mean it, he
shouldn't have said it. He holds the veto pen and has the political
momentum right now and could have delivered at least on this promise. We have
never had a president more arrogant and more imperial than this one in my 57
years on this earth.
"He holds the veto pen . . . ""He could have vetoed
it."Mohokat, Ghost writer, he could have vetoed what? The
payroll tax holiday expired. There was no new bill to extend it. There was
nothing to veto (or sign for that matter). Congress would have had to send him a
bill for him to be able to veto anything. It seems he made this
promise in 2008, and after, in 2010, reduced the payroll taxes for a set length
of time, and then when the payroll tax cut expired (as it was meant to do) the
tax went back up. To exactly where it was in 2008. And in fact for many years
before that. But anyway, not to look at what was actually said (I
know conservatives hate that) but the promise actually said that his
"plan" held no tax increases for the lower income ranges. As far as I
can see that is true. Oh well.
The rate simple returned to the rate is was when he made that
"promise".... so the rate isn't higher now than when he made that
promise. As stated before, the payroll tax holiday was not part of the fiscal
cliff.... it was a tax decrease all on its own. It simple expired and return to
the rate it was under Bush.... the very rates the Republicans were trying to
defend.Could he have extended it - the tax holiday? Nope.
Congress needed to hand that to him. You cant veto something that isn't
there. This thing goes in circles..... we wanted taxes to remain
at Bush levels.....except the payroll tax holiday, we wanted that to stay at the
Obama level.... but we don't want the Obama level on the other taxes......
argh.Compromise means each side doesn't get all they want.
Even Reagan compromised..... shockingly. He didn't keep all his promises
either.... that is what happens in politics. You have to make choices. To get
something, sometimes you give up something else.
Since Obama doesn't even honor his Oath of Office, why would one expect any
campaign promise to be honored?
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