@ midpacmajorYou missed the point by a mile. Nobody is saying Utah
is a top program right now; just that they can/will be if they succeed in their
"How is Utah being CURRENTLY ranked number 12 in all-time wins ancient
history?"Because the Utes have had losing seasons in five of the
last seven years; 2013 will make it six of the last eight losing seasons.Historically good programs sometimes fall off the map and never return
to their glory days. It happens. Utah fans may just have to get used to it. A program that hasn't won an NCAA tournament game in almost a
decade can no longer be considered a top program, regardless of how desperately
their fans wish they could be.
@ DuckhunterHow is Utah being CURRENTLY ranked number 12 in all-time
wins ancient history? Also, we all know Utah basketball is still trying to dig
itself out of hole after a historically bad decade. All I said is that IF Utah
can succeed in the PAC they will be treated like the other teams who have
succeeded in the PAC. Wouldn't you agree that Arizona and UCLA are
big-time programs? IF Utah basketball comes back the Utes can be right up there
with them. And I didn't bring up 1944 or 1984, you did....and then you
called me a hypocrite for it? Pretty civil and thoughtful if you ask me.
@2ferAll ancient history, far ancient history. You hypocrites like
to bring up 1944 as if it has any bearing on today while alternately dismissing
1984 as if it was before any of us was born. That game with usc today certainly
told us how "big time" utah basketball is.
@ DuckhunterUtah is still top 15 in wins and winning percentage, is
in the top 20 for most tournament games played, has a winning record in the
tournament, is ranked 22nd in all-time tournament wins. Plus if Utah succeeds
now it will mean succeeding in the PAC-12, which will put Utah in the national
spotlight.There are very few teams that can match those kinds of
numbers, and obviously none of the schools in this state compare. IF Utah
basketball comes back to it's previous level, it'll do so as a
@twofer"If you succeed at Utah, you will already be coaching a
motorbike"If all we wanted were empty wins then we'd all be
begging for a switch to play in the WCC."LOL!That's hilarious, especially coming from a team that just finished what
Dr. Hill hoped would be one of the most pathetically weak preseason schedules in
@ IRS AgentIf you succeed at Utah, you will already be coaching a
big-time program. Plus Utah now has the money to keep a coach if they
don't want to be bought out.
motorbike"If all we wanted were empty wins..."The truth is, you'll gladly take ANY win U can get, even if it's
against a high school team like Willamette or College of Idaho. Unfortunately
for U, when U stepped up to 200+ level division 1 teams, Sacramento State and
Cal State Northridge proved to be too much for you to handle.Sorry
to break the news to U, but as much as U would like to belief that moral
victories against ASU, Arizona and UCLA are wins, they're actually losses.
scooterbike"If all we wanted were empty wins..."Let's see, WCC had three teams that went to the NCAA tournament last year
and the PAC10.2 had two.BYU went and U didn't.The
only thing I see 'empty' is the Ute's 'win' column in
conference play... where it counts.So whether you like it or not...
bottom line is that you have a bunch of empty losses to cuddle with. I'd like to know the formula that the NCAA folks apply to inviting
losers, oops I meant to say 'moral victory' winners, to their
tournament.Let me know, will ya?
@brave sir robinBut the rest of the pac12 is lucky enough to get to
play utah twice. 2 guaranteed wins for everybody else.
Great improvement by the Utes. BYU fans shouldn't talk too loudly, they
were lucky to walk away with a win this year against Utah, and I'm a BYU
fan. Enjoy the ride Utah, you will probably only have Coach Krysto around for
one more year, then he will be snatched up by a big time program, and
you'll be left to start all over again (Aggie football program sound
familiar). He is proving too good of a coach to stay around for long. Get used
Perfectly said Brave Sir Robin. If all we wanted were empty wins then we'd
all be begging for a switch to play in the WCC. Funny though, I haven't
heard anyone clamoring for that.
@SportsFanI agree...not all of us are lucky enough to get to play
the likes of Pepperdine twice a week.
"Utes now down to the details, so when will they finish them?"When they start playing fellow conference bottom dwellers like USC, probably.