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Published: Monday, Jan. 7 2013 12:00 a.m. MST

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Oregonian
Sherwood, OR

24-year old redshirt freshman? I thought BYU had the corner on the market for those?

Trevvor
Sandy, UT

Word going around is Kyle has suspended him against Division III Gimme State, to hopefully teach him a lesson. He'll be back by game 2, IF needed.

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

This is disappointing, and it was a foolish way to mess up a great opportunity.

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Unfortunate. Afa made a very poor decision, and will likely be remembered by the community for that one decision, not as the generous, kind and cheery individual he truly is, as anyone who knows him could attest. I hope he gets his issues under control and represents himself better in the future, whether that future includes football or not.

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

Classy comment Trevvor. And please don't forget which teams plays a big boy schedule and which team schedules Middle Tennessee St.

sammyg
Springville, UT

2fer

While I will agree with your comment I wait with bated breath for the day that the several of you pounce on some of your own.

Too bad this kid blew his chance. We can all hope that he straightens his life out.

Trevvor
Sandy, UT

@Flincher,

So the schedule has something to do with how many games the kid misses? Yep, just as I expected.

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

@ Trevvor

What you said makes absolutely no sense. I have no idea how many games Afa will miss and it's not my decision to make. However, it won't matter how many games he is suspended for because he doesn't ever play. My point is that your schedule smack is weak because BYU has played a significantly weaker schedule than the U the past two seasons. Try to keep up.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@stg

Perhaps you are exaggerating this guys character just a bit to much? Certainly no single incident should completely define anyone but obviously this guy isn't the great guy you have tried to paint him to be. He beat a guy unconcious over apparently not much.

I find it interesting how utah "fans" consider utah athletes "great guys" regardless of the stuff they do. Like the armed robber who pointed a gun at some other kids heads and threatened to kill them, ute "fans" tell us he just "made a mistake". Or the dui guy that missed all of 1 game. Now this guy who beats a guy senseless but is really just "generous, kind and cheery". Yea he sounds like all of those things. Good grief.

Compare that to the two BYU football players that got in the fight a couple of months ago and got booted from the team. Not one comment on these boards called them "generous, kind and cheery". Really weird how you guys think.

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Duckhunter, judge all you want, you seem to be good for that. I'm not going to compare Afa to anybody that I don't know. I haven't talked to Afa in over six months, so obviously some things have transpired since I was close with him after he returned home from a mission. Your comment proves my point that this is the reputation he's given himself because of his problematic actions, regardless of the good he's done in the past and the people he's influenced for the better, and that's too bad. But like I said, I haven't seen Bridenstine since last summer, before he landed in trouble and got himself removed from the team, so I'm quite disappointed because I know the good person that he can be and knows how to be that you don't know.

UU32
Bountiful, UT

Judge not lest ye be judged.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@stg

All of us have more than one side to our character. For instance I knew a guy that was an actual drug dealer and did some pretty despicable stuff. He was a neighbor of mine back when I first was married. He eventually got arrested, went to prison and some details of all the stuff he did came out. But he was living there because he lived with his old and frail grandmother. He cared for her, cared for her yard, took her for walks, basically did all of this good stuff to help her out. He also used to shovel the snow off of many of the neighbors walks and driveways, was cheerful and friendly to everyone in the neighborhood. Ultimately though his other behaviors were the true indicators of his true character.

But it is the extremes that define us publicly, like this instance for this guy. You beat a guy unconcious and you obviously are not a great guy. Like most people he probably does have some good qualities, unlike most people he obviously is violent and prone to fits of uncontrollable rage. Those trait's do define him.

CougFaninTX
Frisco, TX

Completely agree with UU32. I only hope Utes will remember that when a BYU player makes a mistake. They are still kids, afterall.

And I completely agree with Jealous U. How can 2fer make any comments about the schedule? Sure BYU had a couple of cupcakes, but so did U. Next year, we do play Middle Tennessee State, who finished a respectable 8-4 in FBS play. While U play Weber St who finished 2-9 in FCS play. Who plays the "big boy" schedule? BYU has 5 2012 Top 25 teams on their 2013 schedule, how many for U?

Rockwell
Baltimore, MD

Jealous U

Don't confuse are Utah friends with facts like final rankings. They're so into labels, that they're blind to whether a team is actually any good or not.

Thus, in their distorted view of reality, they still think that Colorado(1-11) is a superior opponent to #21 San Jose State(11-2).

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On the subject of the article:

Suspending Afa from the team for fighting, while sitting Blechen for three non-conference games for his 2nd DUI shows a real inconsistency in Whittingham's discipline policy.

Uteanymous
Salt Lake City, Utah

Duckhunter

People are seldom all good or all bad.

Unfortunately for Afa, the bad side is all that is being reported in the media.

It'll be interesting to see if Kyle gives Afa a chance to rejoin the team or if his dismissal is permanent - almost everybody deserves a second chance, and that's certainly the case with Afa.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@Rockwell

What's even more indicative of the discipline inconsistencies at the u is that whittingham didn't sit blechen even after 2 offenses. blechen was forced to sit by an internal univeristy policy that whittingham had no control over at all. whittingham didn't sit blechen the 1st time or the 2nd time, he just had to go along with it.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@Uteanymous

I agree, people are complex and no one is all good or all bad. But some people do some really bad things and the truth is that beating someone unconcious is a far greater indicator of that persons character than shoveling the neighbors walk.

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Duckhunter, cool story. Like I said, I hope this discipline and an internal resolve to change will help him straighten out his issues and be the same type of person in society that I knew him as.

Rockwell, don't even bring up the Blechen incident if you don't even know what the story was, that's pathetic.

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

@ Rockwell

Blechen didn't have any DUIs

@ CougfaninTX

Utah's SOS 41, BYU 63. Overall Utah plays higher quality teams.

Truth Machine
Salt Lake City, UT

2fer

Blechen didn't have any DUI's, but he also wasn't disciplined at all by Utah football for using illegal drugs.

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"Overall Utah plays higher quality teams."

Not necessarily.

BYU played FIVE Top 25 teams in 2012; Utah only played TWO.

The factor that SOS doesn't account for is that if Team A plays the #1 and #120 teams, and Team B plays the #60 and #61 teams, both teams will have a SOS of about #60.

However, Team B has a MUCH BETTER chance of going 2-0 than Team A.

So which team had the more difficult schedule?

Utah may have had an overall higher SOS, but it could be easily argued that BYU played a more difficult schedule, playing FIVE Top 25 teams (THREE of them on the road), while Utah only played TWO Top 25 teams (only ONE on the road).

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