Published: Monday, Jan. 7 2013 12:00 a.m. MST
Considering that a handgun in the home is more likely to be used against the
home's occupants than against an intruder, I would say the burden of
evidence is on those who want armed teachers. They need to prove that the rate
of accidents from guns in the classroom is virtually nonexistent, or you will
end up with more casualties nationwide than from all of the school shootings
combined. Mr. Burrell raises some excellent points, and I will value his
opinion many times over that of Wayne LaPierre.
Not only is it not "wise", it is in fact profoundly stupid.
The problem with arming teachers is obvious, you aren't really arming
teachers, you are arming the students. Almost any well conditioned student can
easily over power a weak or unsuspecting teacher. Maybe we should
only hire teachers who are ex-police officers or members of special forces
units, doesn't anyone remember Arnold in "Kindergarten Cop".
Wow. Some actual wisdom in a letter to the editor.
Emajor. Then who is going to protect our children? The inconvenient truth is
that bad guys with guns can only be stopped by good guys with guns and the
police can't protect your children any more than they did at Sandy Hook or
any other school. Bad people will always get guns and no gun control law can or
will stop them!
If someone knew teachers were armed I think they might be afraid. In fact mall
shooting in Oregon and I beleive another shooting some time ago a teacher there
got a gun and lives were saved there.
I was talking last night with a friend who is an expert on gangs in Utah. He
works with the Utah Attorney General's office. Although he is pro-gun, he
has some serious concerns with the lack of adequate background checks, the gun
show loophole, and the fact that before being prohibited from possessing a gun,
a person must have been convicted of a felony.According to him, at
least two thirds of gang members cannot be restricted from packing. Most have
fairly extensive records of misdemeanors, but no felonies -- yet. It is not
unusual for police agencies to have to return weapons to gang bangers because
their possession of the weapon is permitted under current law and the Second
Amendment. Because there is no registration of gun serial numbers, there is no
way of learning if the gun has been stolen.He also points out that
in almost every case of a gun being used in domestic violence, the gun was
lawfully possessed by the shooter. Even though the shooter may have had a long
history of previous violence, nothing can be done until he crosses the line from
misdemeanor to felony.Something to think about?
higv, it has been reported that the guy who claimed to have stopped the shooting
in the Oregon mall wasn't in the vicinity when it happened.
Mountainman said,,,for the upteenth time, "... bad guys with guns can only
be stopped by good guys with guns..."OK. You win. I get what
you're saying. But as long as you say that I will say this:Deaths caused by firearms in 2011 included these numbers for developed
countries:Unted States - 10.2 per 100,000 populationGermany -
1.05 per 100,000 populationUnited Kingson - 0.25 per 100,000 populationJapan - 0.07 per 100,000 populationSo i genuinely want to know,
what makes the difference? Why so many more deaths in this country? Are we
just bad people?I think there is another answer but I want someone,
in a responsiublke position, to explain these numbers to us all. Then, and only
then, can we have a meaningful conversation about how to stop the killing.
higvDietrich, IDIf someone knew teachers were armed I think they
might be afraid. ============== ...and I don't
think a mentally ill person, with a death-wish, 2 assault rifles, 1,000 rounds
of ammo, and a bullet proof vest is afraid of a Kindergarten teacher with a 9mm
and a 7 round clip at all.
ECR. Its the culture. For example, when Japan suffered the tsunami, there was
virtually no looting. Compare that with what happened during the last two
hurricanes in America, especially in New Orleans.
Good, sensible letter. Nicely done, sir. And I honor your service to our
@MountanmanHayden, IDECR. Its the culture. For example, when Japan
suffered the tsunami, there was virtually no looting. Compare that with what
happened during the last two hurricanes in America, especially in New
Orleans.9:09 a.m. Jan. 7, 2013Unted States - 10.2 per
100,000 populationGermany - 1.05 per 100,000 populationUnited
Kingson - 0.25 per 100,000 populationJapan - 0.07 per 100,000
population================= The Culture?Japan is a SOCIALIST nation, So is Germany and the UK.Perhaps the Gun-toutiing, anything for a buck, Me, Myself, and I,
get off my property or I'll shoot, selfishness, of a
paranoid America who thinks that the Government, their friends, neighbors,
family and everyone around them is somehow out to get them, is the REAL
There are bad cops too. Shall we take all police guns away?You trust
your kids to a teacher all day long. How does their having a gun change who they
are? Having a gun doesn't suddenly make them into a ruthless killer. These
are highly qualified, responsible people. Who better to take the responsibility
for a weapon and the safety of our kids.If you don't trust a
teacher with a gun to take care of your children, you shouldn't trust them
with your kids at all. A gun is only one way a teacher might harm a child. They
might humiliate them, or hurt their feelings, or molest them. They might stab
them with scissors. You just never know.And the anti-gun folks think
the pro-second amendment folks are paranoid. Your fear of the presence of a gun
EMajor: So the burden is on gun owners and their advocates to prove that
exercising their right will not have any negative effects before they will have
that right protected. Is that what you are saying?If so, why
don't we extend that logic to all the other rights protected by the
constitution? Lots of people abuse the right of free speech (slander, libel,
hate, etc.). Do we make someone prove that they will do none of those things
before we grant them free speech?Freedom of the press has been
abused numerous times by so-called "journalists" printing lies,
exaggerations, and selective omissions. Do we make them prove that none of that
abuse will happen before we "allow" a free press?
If teachers want to carry concealed, are judged mentally sound, and are willing
to go through extensive training, they should be supported and allowed to do so.
Concealed carry permit holders have been shown to be much more law abiding
than the general public.As for the unhinged teacher 38 years ago, I
don't think he/she would have passed today's required FBI background
check, as well as the mental evaluation and extensive training (above).I think my children are safer at a school where competent, well-trained
teachers and administrators are allowed to carry concealed. If something bad
starts, the teachers are already there on the job, in the best position to take
quick action if needed to protect the kids. We should let them.
How sad -- When I was a kid, we feared knowing the Pricipal had a
Paddle in the closet.Today, kids might fear knowing the Pricipal has
a Glock 17 in the closet. I also feared a certain 5th grade teacher
who was known to fly off the handle and abuse kids at times.Throwing
papers, kicking garbage cans, and slapping rulers was a weekly occurance.We were scared half to death.I know times have changed, but I
don't feel better thinking my kids or grandkids would somehow be made safer
knowing these types of short-fused "teachers" could be now be legally
The answer is home shcooling
To "ECR" the problem with your statistics is the simple fact that they
don't reflect the overall homicide rate. If guns are the problem, then
explain why the nations with the highest homicide rates also have low gun
ownership rates?For example, in 2010 Honduras lead the world in
murders, yet they only have 6.2 guns per 100 people. Your ilk's logic
can't explain why they would have such a high murder rate with so few
guns.The other problem that your ilk has is the simple fact that
once you take away guns, the mentally ill will just switch to knives, swords, or
other similar things.If you want to see what happens when you take
away the guns, look to Japan. Read about the Akihabara massacre where a man
killed 4 and injured 8 people using a survival knife. Banning guns is not the
solution since crazy people will find a way to kill. The root of the problem is
the mental condition of the populace.
Once again, this letter points out that mental health is the issue of concern,
not the presence or absence of guns. Guns can't shoot themselves.
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