Why do politicians continually defend each others' bad behavior? If a
school teacher had a DUI, they wouldn't be saying "one mistake
doesn't negate lifetime of service." I guess we are supposed to
forgive the mistakes politicians make and then throw everyone else under the bus
for their mistakes. I guess this explains why the Utah legislature can give a
standing ovation to a special someone who resigned after giving a "lifetime
of service." Mr. Liljenquist, politicians should be held to a higher
standards just as you expect your state employees to do.
I hope Crapo can get help.I have seen too many otherwise
"good" LDS men and women lead two-lives lately.It makes me
sick when I think about it.
Sadly, Mr. Crapo stands for everything that is wrong with D.C. and why it it so
easy not to trust our federally elected servants. They create laws, for our good
of course, and because they are above the very laws they create, live lives as
if they are accountable to nobody. Please Dan, save us all the "lifetime of
service" baloney. We are so very tired of hypocracy. He, like so many others
should remove themselves from public service because of dishonesty so decent men
and women can represent us properly.
Kings Court, that is an absolutely excellent response.
It sounds obvious that none here understands what really goes on in the mind of
an individual tht may have an addictive problem. I am sure anyone of you wil be
asking for mercy as well.Jesus saved the prositute from being stoned.
"He who cast the first stone....." right? God loves the sinner and all
no matter what. I respect the gentleman for maning up to the problem; now he is
on his rocky way to recovery. I pray for him and his family. I am not an
alcoholic however have witnessed alcohoism even to the death of loved ones.
I live in Crapo's district, and will certainly vote against him next chance
I get. We have to stop rationalizing bad behavior and character flaws. Period.
I've known many people who have had trouble with alcohol. I've never
looked down on someone who admits it, takes responsibility, and seeks help. As a
lifelong Democrat I would join Dan in saying this issue does not cancel out
everything else in a person's life. Problem drinking is not a partisan
problem. It has nothing to do with political philosophy or even religious
conviction. It is a problem that can be dealt with successfully. Everyone should
rally around those who are trying to change their life. Such a course will save
estreet, I think most of us posting here understand addiction more than you give
us credit for. But the fact remains that there is an obvious double standard
when it comes to "forgiving" people in power.Shouldn't
people who have power over the rest of us be held to higher standards? Someone earlier posted the question of what would happen to a teacher or
other public employee who was charged with DUI. It's a valid question.
This is the sad consequence when we betray our own stndards.
Sen. Crapo claimed and won support for believing certain standards that he
ignored. That is hypocrisy, which is not currently considered a virtue. While he
needs help with his alcohol abuse and disregard for DUI laws, that sympathy
doesn't protect him from the criminal or political consequences of his
I want to whole heartedly agree with Mr. Liljenquist. It would seem that there
is a tendency to by many commentators here to condemn Congressman Crapo for
having made a very seriouls mistake, and to only focus on that mistake. We all
make mistakes in life and let us hope and pray that those mistakes do not
totally difine us. We all do good things in life too and let us hope and pray
we are mostly defined by those good deeds and that there is hope for forgiveness
for our short comings. Even though Congressman Crapo is a former LDS Bishop and
a graduate of BYU, like all of us, he is subject to imperfections. I for one
value his positive contributions and I forgive him and I hope he can move past
his mistakes. I hope I can move past mine too!
I mostly agree with Mr. Liljenquist. I am sympathetic to Senator Crapo and wish
him well in dealing with this issue.But I wonder about this idea of
"public service." Members of Congress and the Senate are highly paid for
their work. Only rarely do they leave office voluntarily until they are in
advanced old age. They generally fight tooth and nail to maintain their office
or move up. I question how much of their motivation is service and how much is
self-aggrandizement. I don't think that Senator Crapo or any of our other
elected officials are more noble than anyone else or more deserving of our
sympathy and support.
If the voters had known the truth about FDR's and JFK's personal lives
would they have been elected? I think not. As a voter, I want to know the
truth about candidates so I can make an informed decision on their character.
Of course, every one has problems, but let me know about them before I vote.
I don't know how I feel about Senator Crapo, but now his constituents can
make an informed choice.
I may be wrong but as I have followed, half-heartedly, this story didn't
Crapo say he started drinking alcohol about one year ago? Sorry, Dan that
negates your "one mistake" comment.
I too was disappointed that Sen Crapo was arrested for DUI. He was supposed to
be staying away from alcohol as a religious matter, but here he is, drinking. I
am trying to understand the rationale behind his admission that he started
drinking for the stress. As a former Bishop, doesn't he know better?
Booze as the answer? Not. If he is so stressed, then seek help, and not from a
liquor store. Were I still in his district, I would think long and hard about
his name on the ballot. Not because he was convicted of DUI, but because of his
decision making under stress. What would his decision be if pressed hard
enough, or placed in a stressful situation? I'm puzzled as to what led to
this situation, where he was seeking relief in a bottle.....I hope
he works this out.
I'm not down on people drinking alcohol, but I'm sick of people
drinking alcohol and getting in cars and trying to drive, like the woman who ran
into a house last night. A car can be potentially a dangerous killing machine.
That's my problem here.
For how many years did he wear his religion on his sleeve? Does anyone think
this was just a first time?I am the son, brother and father of an
alcoholic. It does not just happen one day.
Re: "One mistake doesn't negate lifetime of service"True enough.But this is just the latest in a long series of
incidents that has a lot of us asking ourselves, why do so many deeply flawed
people gravitate to politics?The vast, vast majority of Church
members with Sen. Crapo's age, experience, and history of Church service
are not sorely tempted by this particular vice. Why are so many politicians?And most of us would see a giant red flag if we caught ourselves
"drinking gin and tonics at home," as Sen Crapo admitted. Why does it
always seem to take an arrest to induce repentance and rectitude for
politicians?Do they actually hold any real beliefs, or is
showmanship and politics their religion?Could it be, since they
assert their jobs require them to make so many moral and political compromises,
it elevates compromise to a moral imperative, and they begin to feel that
imperative applies in their personal lives, as well?Hmmmmmm.We all wish Sen. Crapo the best, but we're wondering.
I wish him well. I hope he gets help. I hope that he has a friend, like the
one Ted Kennedy found in Orrin Hatch to help him curb the problem and find
respectability. Drinking is a problem. It ruins men and women everywhere.
Most of the time, it is met with denial and more drinking. So far, this case
has seen confession and acceptance of full responsibility. I salute him for
that. So many in Congress find a straight path to blaming others. It's a
huge mistake that he will pay for over and over. Sure, it may cost him his job
in D.C. But more importantly, I hope his family and friends will rally around
him and help rather than do what so many posting on this article want to do to
him. At least, that is what I would hope for myself or members of my family if
I or one of them found themselves in the same place. "...of you, it is
required to forgive..."
wow, lots of bigoted opinions here. glad so many commentators lead perfect
lives. Dan is right. i also know Dan and I would not expect anything less from
his comments. He is a class act.
No, freedom; it's not bigotry. It's saying the Mr Crapo knew better.
He needs to work through this, but he bears the responsibility for his actions.
Those actions contradict what and who he said he was. When a person in his
position falls, they fall hard. Recognizing that is not bigotry.
Dan Liljenquist and I don't see eye to eye on a lot of things, but on this
one we do. I recognize that it was illegal for Sen. Crapo to drive while
intoxicated, and shame on him for doing so. I recognize that, more importantly,
it was wrong for him to take up alcohol in the first place, in violation of his
professed beliefs. But I also recognize that I don't know the full story
(and I'm not entitled to know), that he is doing everything in his power to
make things right, and that he has served his state well in the Senate, in spite
of his use of alcohol. At the end of the day, I think we should elect
politicians based on their ability to do a political job, not a religious one,
and by all accounts, Sen. Crapo does this job exceptionally well. In general, I
don't agree with Crapo's politics, but I think it would be
short-sighted of his constituents to let this one factor overrule all others
when deciding whether to re-elect him.
I certainly would agree that not having a temple recommend should not prevent
one from being elected a senator from Idaho. That said, this episode shows how
our political and economic system obscures the reality of things. I have
nothing against Crapo but his right wing politics.
Being alcoholic is not a mistake; it is an illness - a treatable one.Driving while drunk is not a mistake; it is a crime and the criminal needs to
pay the price of the crime - generally probation, counseling, community service,
suspended jail time, loss of driver's license and a very hefty crime.SEnator Crapo deserves to be treated like everyone else who breaks the
It wasn't "one mistake". It was one time he got caught, but he has
lied numerous times about his alcohol consumption. And I certainly don't
believe that the one time he got caught was the only time he ever drank and
drive. Dan Liljenquist's remarks are so ridiculous I now wonder what he is
I could've sworn we had this massive firestorm a few weeks ago because a UN
Ambassador gave out what turned out to be incorrect statements on a Sunday
morning talk show about Benghazi and how that somehow disqualifies her from a
job (nevermind that Condi Rice did the same exact thing with regards to WMDs in
Iraq). But drunk driving... nah that's totally fine. Maybe it's only
okay if Republicans do it.
@estreetshuffle:"I respect the gentleman for manning up to the
problem..."I don't think he manned-up to his problem... He
was caught by the police... then he had to man-up. Big difference.The puzzling question would seem to be... where did the alcohol come from and
how long has it been in his possession? As the story goes, he missed his flight
home to Idaho which caused the trauma leading to taking a drink. Several drinks.
How could missing a flight cause enough trauma to start drinking? Doesn't
make sense. He tells us he has been drinking for awhile. Is this a long standing
problem that he has covered up for years... maybe since youth?Very
curious... First we have Idaho Senator Larry Craig arrested for lewd conduct in
a men's restroom at the Minneapolis Airport (according to a DNews report).
Then Idaho Senator Mike Crapo gets a DUI (as reported by the DNews). Idaho must
be scratching their collective heads over these events.
Re: ". . . a UN Ambassador gave out what turned out to be incorrect
statements . . . (nevermind that Condi Rice did the same exact thing with
regards to WMDs in Iraq)."And, I guess disingenuous Obama-regime
apologists are hoping that if they bleat this discredited old saw long enough
and often enough, we're dumb enough to conflate knowing, politically
expedient prevarication with honest, universally-held mistaken belief.We're not, though.
jackie,it is bigotry to insert one's religion when it has nothing to
do with it. Only when a mormon does something wrong is religion brought into the
I agree that a single incident should not undermine a lifetime of work. But his
character holds no credibility to me. Beyond the seriousness of the DUI -- and
let's not downplay how serious that is -- I know that Senator Crapo is a
practicing Latter-day Saint, one who has held positions of influence within the
church; that tells me that he has made covenants that include absentention from
alcohol. As a fellow Mormon, I believe in the power of repentance. That will
be a personal affair of his. But his breaking of personal religious covenants,
in a way that posed a danger to others, undermines any confidence or trust that
I might have in his ability to be a responsible leader or representative for the
people of Idaho.
@atl134:"... never mind that Condi Rice did the same exact thing with
regards to WMDs in Iraq."Condi Rice was exactly right about WMD
in Iraq... some of which were used to kill Kurds in north Iraq."But drunk driving... nah that's totally fine."Drinking and driving is not totally fine. And especially if your moral
teachings tell you to not only not drink and drive... but to not drink at
all."Maybe it's only okay if Republicans do it."Democrats are totally devoid of morals so it doesn't really matter
to them.. Which is not a bad position to be in so that you can never be called
I am in agreement with those who express concern or even disgust with Sen.
Crapo's problem. But what is the problem? Drunk Driving? If so then
throw the book at him. I have no sympathy with those who drink and drive. Is it
hypocrisy? Failing to live as he portrays himself to be. That's a matter
for clergy and his constituents to decide. Is it alcoholism, a chronic
dependency on alcohol? He should get some professional help.I do
not buy the years of service bit. The ego required to run for and fight tooth
and nail to keep a place in the ruling elite's councils and forum is
immense. I am tired of the charade of "service" and "sacrifice"
diatribe that the incumbent and their associates regale us with about congress
or almost any publicly financed elected office. My feeling on the matter? Get
out of the lime-light and solve your problem in private, as a private citizen.
There is one less great man than you think there is in the world.