Hunstman is nothing to Ron Paul or Gary Johnson
UtahbluedevilI don't know what most of your rant is about. I am
not talking about party or left or right.Jeremiah Wright preached
many racist and anti-American sermons. I am surprised the president, especially
being a man of mixed race, tolerated such sermons, but apparently he did. The
president embraced this man as a personal model for himself asked him to perform
his marriage and his children's baptisms. As a member of the church he
undoubtedly donated as well.I find this distressing.I
would walk out on any racist or anti-American sermon in any church and would
disrupt such speech if it were in a public place. I would evict a person
engaging in such things on my personal property. As a nation, we
have been trying to end racism for 50 years. Racists seek to divide and conquer.
It is destructive. We need to unify, as Americans, instead of dividing into
races and hating America.To win election, Obama divided and
conquered. Predictably, he did it very well. Can he unify the nation now? He
hasn't in 4 years. Based on his choice of religious role model, not
I find it ironic that Mr. Huntsman is being called out on his religious devotion
on the same day as another Op-Ed piece that defends former LDS Bishop Mike Crapo
after his drunk driving arrest.At what point do we stop worrying
about the outward appearance and start paying more attention to a person's
actual actions? Too many people are given a pass because they fit into our
pre-defined boxes of what an LDS (or even Christian) person should look like and
say while behind the scenes they break all sorts of commandments. At the same
time, just because a person is not orthodox in their beliefs, it doesn't
mean that they aren't living in conformance with the commandments.
"Try it with Obama, and you will see why liberals don't want anyone to
consider religion."Meaning what? I am not a liberal, but
neither any of you RINO branding Republicans would consider a "True"
conservative. The two Stake Presidents in our area are Democrats.... should I
be turning them into the Salt Lake for review.... but then again, one of them
was asked by the church to be a delegate to the Democrat National Convention...
to represent the church, so I think they know.Are you saying these
two stake presidents should be deemed unworthy of elected office?Somehow I think I am going to defer to higher judgement than yours Christian
on this matter. I am thinking your analysis just might have been biased or
Huntsman had a high approval rating in office because the legislature kept him
check and most people did not realize what a moonbean he was until after he
left. He does not have a high rating any longer (except amongst the hard left
who are eager to limit political choices to shades of left-wing - as evidenced
by the posts on this thread).He quit all of his last few jobs. Time
for Huntsman to just go away.
To me it seems that Huntsman practices the kind of Mormonism that Joseph Smith
advocated, namely, a Church wherein adherents seek out and live truth no matter
where it comes from. Huntsman is more serious about debt than democrats and more
serious about equality and justice than any republican I'm aware of.
L LibAnd if the vote would have been close between Romney and Obama,
nationally and in Utah, would you still vote for Huntsman, and throw away that
precious vote for the liberal lest Romney win? I doubt it.You make
my point about Huntsman. I don't want a choice between 2 liberals. But is
way okay with me if you want to write him in.
The second to last Republican President I voted for was Ronald Reagan.The
Big Tent, Reagan Democrat, 49 out 50 State winner.BTW - The last
Republican I voted for was the closest man next to Ronald Reagan I have seen in
the last 30 years -- I wrote in Jon Huntsman Jr. in 2012.
Liberals are suggesting Huntsman for the republican candidate because he will do
what thedemocrats want. While that may be the liberals' dream,
conservatives would like to have a candidate in the race too. I hope the
republicans will put a more conservative candidate than Romney on the ballot
next time. Having a republican candidate who is a minority will
make a bigger difference in the outcome than having a more liberal candidate.
Sad, but I think it is true. We are still a long way from Rev. King's dream
of "a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin (or,
may I add, by their gender or sexual orientation) but by the content of their
Why does religion matter you ask?Two reasons1. Religions
teach values. If you research a religion's values, you know what the
members of the religion have been taught. 2. By observing a
person's life you can see if they live consistent with those values or not.
While no one is perfect, you will get an idea of a person's integrity. I have researched the religions of many candidates, and how they live
their religions. It is revealing. Try it with Obama, and you will
see why liberals don't want anyone to consider religion.
Seems like Huntsman alienates most of the Republican voice. Why he won't
win an election as president.
Huntsman would make an exceptional president. He is a voice of reason and sanity
in a party with an increasingly myopic platform.
If repubs ever want to be relevant again, they need Huntsman. The far right is
becoming more and more insane.
Why would the Republican Party change for Huntsman? Will he change for the
majority of the republicans or there philosophy? I thought Huntsman was LDS
don't know how active he is right now though. He will never be President.
His philisophy some more Democrat or at least Libertarian than Republican.
Jon Huntsman is yesterday's news. I hope he can find a place to contribute,
but he will not be the leader.
Star Light...You asked what Jon Huntsman Jr has done that was not the
result of his father money and good name?Let me give you some
examples....Do you enjoy the shorter times at the DMV? or that you
can access the State Government through the internet to renew your business
license, DMV, Motor Vehicles, etc forms.This was done because Jon
Huntsman wanted more things accessible on-line for the State residents.Have you noticed that Utah has not been affected as much by the downturn in
the ecomony? Why? because Gov. Huntsman pushed through some ideas to keep the
State government smaller and save more into the Rainy day fund.Have
you noticed that the increase in education also went up during his two and half
terms of office...Huntsman did a lot for Utahan's that most
residents never knew.
I couldn't agree with Mr Stanger more. What has Jon done that hasn't
been a result of his father's money and good name? Something? He does
have a great opinion of himself and the press loves him, loved to stick his
finger in Romney's eye every chance he got. Was it really over Romney
rescuing the Olympics when Jon wanted the job? Sick of the DN falling in line.
"Why did everyone vote for him? He is not LDS or even a Republican." "Remember his response to Fortune about being asked about his
religion? "I can't say I'm overly religious ... I get satisfaction
from many different types of religions and philosophies,"Newsflash. Most people dont want an "overly religious" president. I
am betting that you dont either, unless it is your specific brand. I
know that some people have views like this. But most have better sense than to
express them publicly?
Why does his religion matter? Isn't that a private matter?It's letters like these that go to show that it's not the evil
"liberal media" that is making the GOP look out of touch and radical.You folks dressed in your 17th century clothing and writing letters like
these about a fellow Republican quite honestly need little help in making
yourselves appear out of touch and too radical.
Huntsman's only problem with other Republicans is that he makes sense and
is not totally at the fringes of reality.
It would have been even better if he told Fortune that his religion was no one
My understanding is that when Gov. Huntsman left office he had a very high
approval rating. No?A candidate like Huntsman has ZERO chance of
winning the Republican primary race.Romney only became the
Republican candidate because he walked back and abandoned any history of
moderation. But the extreme conservative positions become a liability in
the general election. McCain's pick of Palin excited the Republican base,
but lost him the moderates. As long as Republicans reject moderates it
will be difficult for them to demonstrate they can govern and are worthy of
national leadership roles.
I wasn't aware that being Mr. Stranger's brand of religion or
political party were a requirement for secular public office.
I seem to remember the LDS leaders strongly counseling against questioning
I agree with Blue and Larry. The GOP needs to get more realistic if it wants to
be relevant anymore. Huntsman would have polled better than Romney in the
battleground states on which the election hinged. He was the first to distance
himself from Donald Trump, who became a liability for the party, and criticized
Romney for not withdrawing his support for Richard Mourdock after his rape
comment which cost Romney the female vote. He would not have made some of the
infamous gaffes Romney made and did not have his reputation as a flip flopper.
Huntsman had by far the most impressive resume of the GOP
candidates. He had more foreign policy experience than all of the others
combined and his was state was voted "Best "Best State For
Business". His tax plan was endorsed by the Wall Street Journal during the
primaries. He was a proven fiscal conservative whose more moderate social views
are consistent with the demographic realities in this country. As
Obama's campaign manager Jim Messina stated after Romney was trounced in an
election the GOP should have won, Huntsman was, and still is, the party's
"He is not LDS or even a Republican. Remember his response to Fortune about
being asked about his religion? "And that is exactly why many
support him, even those of us who wouldn't traditionally vote for a
Republican. He's moderate. He's reasonable. He exhibits rationality
and self-restraint that is absent in the extremist ideology of the Tea Party
candidates trying to take over your party. His statement on his LDS
faith is to his credit, not detriment. In case you haven't been watching
the news, LDS conservative Mike Crapo from Idaho was arrested for drunk driving
in DC on Dec 23. In recent years, several LDS Utah politicians such as Kevin
Garn were brought down by personal scandal. So apparently claiming strict
adherence to the LDS or any other church doesn't guarantee good behavior,
does it? I'm more concerned with a man's actions than his labels.
One minor correction Mr. Stanger...Gov. Huntsman did not give State
employees another day off... He switch the employees to do their jobs in 4 days
(10 hours each day). To make it possible for people who actually work to get to
state offices either before or after work.there was no "day
off"... As to your letter, I happened to agree with you about
Huntsman and his political ambitions...
Jon Huntsman was the one republican that President Obama feared in the last
presidential race.When the Republican party comes back to reality,
and gets over its current far right infatuation, I seriously hope that the face
of the GOP looks like Mr. Huntsman. We need two reasonable, rational parties
for this country to work right and hopefully Jon Huntsman can help the
conservatives see the light!
Thank you, Mr. Stanger. Your hostility towards rational moderate Republicans is
exactly the reason why the Republican Party is in decline nationally and
accelerating towards irrelevancy. That suits me just fine.