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Published: Wednesday, Jan. 2 2013 12:00 a.m. MST

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one old man
Ogden, UT

Gee whiz!

Could this mean that Santa is a Republican!!!!

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Ironically enough --
It's FoxNews who keeps reporting that "Obama" is Santa Claus.

So this only proves that the Deer Valley Santa must be a fake Santa Claus.

one old man
Ogden, UT

Right, Lib. Sorry. I forgot that Santa is really a good soul who delivers without regard to race, religion, or degree of wealth.

Does that mean he's a Liberal?

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

one old man
Ogden, UT

Does that mean he's a Liberal?

10:25 a.m. Jan. 2, 2013

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Absolutely!

Just like the His metaphor.

Who also;
Has white hair, and a white beard,
wears red robes,
comes as a thief in the night,
sees you when your sleeping,
knows when you've been naughty or nice,
has your name recorded in his book of life,
gathers children around his knee,
teaches it is better to give, than receive.

Liberal through and through.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

Micheal,

Your apparent covetousness is very unbecoming.

GZE
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

As Deer Valley paid Santa's time and bought the treats he handed out to their customers, I think we can probably let this one go.

I'm as liberal as they come, but really? Guess what? Rich kids deserve Christmas surprises, too.

Starting off the year with a pretty low bar, aren't you D News?

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "LDS Liberal" enough with the Jesus was a liberal lie that you not only try to perpetuate but believe.

Jesus was not a liberal because he believed in freedom, and did not believe in forcing people to do good.

For example in Jacob 2:19 And after ye have obtained a hope in Christ ye shall obtain riches, if ye seek them; and ye will seek them for the intent to do good—to clothe the naked, and to feed the hungry, and to liberate the captive, and administer relief to the sick and the afflicted. If Jesus was like you, it would simply state that after obtaining hope in Christ, you should shun riches in all forms and that you should wait for the government to care for the poor.

Please cease and desist from spreading your the false doctrine that Jesus was equal to your modern liberalism.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

@RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

I love it when you quote that scripture, it's one of my favorite - in fact, it helped made me Liberal, it's gotta be one of the most LIBERAL in the BoM.

That's why I find it hilarous that you twist it around so hard to use it to somehow slam Liberalism.
too Funny!
sad, but still funny.

BTW - Jesus is Liberal. Fact. Deal with it. I'm sorry you deny it. I will pray for you.
You're really are missing out on the Good-News. [Gos-pel].
Oh and one other thing -- He gives it to all men, Liberally.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "LDS Liberal" I hate to once again disprove you using the words of Modern prophets who speak for God.

Since the prophets speak for God, lets see what God has to say about liberalism. Elder John Widstow, while fulfilling the calling of a Prophet in the Quorum of 12 apostles said "The self-called liberal is usually one who has broken with the fundamental principles or guiding philosophy of the group to which he belongs. He is an unbeliever. He claims membership in an organization but does not believe in its basic concepts, and sets out to reform it by changing its foundations. He is forever entangling his unbelief with his membership."

Since you won't just take that one testimony, here is another one from President Harold B. Lee "There are those in the Church who speak of themselves as liberals who, as one of our former presidents has said, read by the lamp of their own conceit....A liberal in the Church is merely one who does not have a testimony."

Since the Prophets have condemned liberalism, how can you seriously say that Jesus is a Liberal, unless you are falling into a state of apostacy?

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

You know RedShirt...

You and Mike Richards need to leave the safe harbor of Utah and the Deseret News
[the most Conservative Newspaper, in the most Conservative State] with your tired debates.
It's like preaching to the choir.

I'm a Liberal, so I post on the Deseret News.

You should take your "battle" to somewhere more challenging,
say -- San Francisco, and post on the Chronicle's web-site for awhile.

Like Ammon and the City of Ammonihah, or Jonah and Nineveh.

The Lord wouldn't waste his time sending missionaries to sway the majority locals.

Besides -- I always get more "likes" than you do.
That should be telling you something about perspective and balance and being moderate in all things.

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

RedShirt said:
Since the prophets speak for God, lets see what God has to say about liberalism. Elder John Widstow, while fulfilling the calling of a Prophet in the Quorum of 12 apostles said "The self-called liberal is usually one who has broken with the fundamental principles or guiding philosophy of the group to which he belongs. He is an unbeliever. He claims membership in an organization but does not believe in its basic concepts, and sets out to reform it by changing its foundations. He is forever entangling his unbelief with his membership."

I believe you make LDS libs point, does not the above describe not only Christ but Joseph Smith too?

How can you describe exactly what Christ did and then deny he was liberal?

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

As has been pointed out before, it's probably best just not to watch fox.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "LDS Liberal" what "safe harbor" is there? The fact that there are people like you who spread lies on the DN boards only proves that there are no safe harbors.

While I have your attention, I should remind you that the Prophets have spoken out against modern liberalism and you cannot refute that fact.

You are wrong about the Lord "sending missionaries to sway the majority locals." Even the examples you give show that. Alma went to Ammonihah (a Nephite city) to help them return from their apostate state. Jonah went to Nineva (a Jewish city) to help them return from their apostate condition. Even Jesus went to God's chosen people, the Jews, to teach them of the error of their ways. You missed the statement about liberals "A liberal in the Church is merely one who does not have a testimony." That does not describe Jesus.

Next, who cares how many likes you get? Do you only post things here to receive praise from your ilk?

To "Happy Valley Heretic" you must be like "LDS Liberal," claiming to be LDS and not understanding the doctrine. I don't think you actually read my post.

Wally West
SLC, UT

per Redshirt's 12:17p post...

the key word to me in the scripture is **intent** as in intend, propose, etc...

As long as you mean well; you are okay?

I disagree; Talking a big game and actually doing something are 2 different things. Its like saying all you need is Faith to get to heaven.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

Redshirt,
pay no attention to LDS?lib. His last response was basically "I cannot argue with what you said, so go somewhere else and don't bother me."

Then there's Happy Valley Heretic who vehemently called me a liar when I said 49.2% and 43.7% do not constitute majorities. You can draw your own conclusions about his credibility from that.

Nonconlib
Happy Valley, UT

I have no idea whether Jesus is conservative or liberal. All I know is that he isn't a Republican.

airnaut
Everett, 00

Nonconlib
Happy Valley, UT
I have no idea whether Jesus is conservative or liberal. All I know is that he isn't a Republican.

3:37 p.m. Jan. 3, 2013

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He gave away FREE Healthcare.
Turned water into wine.
He spoke talked kindly and tolereated immigrants.
Told the people to stop complaining and just pay their taxes.
Told Peter to put away his weapon.
And he didn't think kindly of the uber-wealthy.

Puts him in the Liberal bucket for me.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "airnaut" but Jesus believed that people should be free to choose. Jesus chose to help and was not regulated. Jesus encouraged us to freely help our fellow man directly, not waiting for the government to step in. Jesus will save each person individually, there is no collective salvation. Jesus taught us to work for what we receive.

Also, you arew wrong about Jesus and the "uber wealthy". He liked them, and had no problems with wealth. Read about Zacchaeus, a chief publican who was rich. Jesus told him "This day is salvation come to this house." If that isn't enough for you, look at who Jesus called as his apostles, business owners (the fishers owned multiple boats, and were not simple guys working as fishermen).

Jesus would be more aligned with modern conservativism than with your socialist/progressive liberalism.

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