@Christian 24-7 - your kidding me, right? After each president we just hit
"restart" and the game begins a new? This isn't some video game
where you get to start with a blank slate each time. I can see it now, you
halfway through a game, down by 21 points, so you swap quarterback and claim
"restart - set the score back to zero/zero".... what world does this
kind of stuff happen in?The national debt doesn't start over
with each president. Unemployment. Conflicts? Which of these do you get to
just cancel out? Pretend they didn't exist? And the president after
this one - no matter which party - will get the pleasure of continuing on. The reality is some of the issues Bush had were legacy from Clinton.
And Clinton has legacy issues from Bush I - what to do about the Taliban for
one. And oh mighty, did we ever hear about the legacy of issues Reagan got to
clean up from his Carter... thought we would never hear the end of that. And
Carter and Ford - lots of clean up from Nixon. Nixon himself got to clean up
Vietnam. So lets stop pretending it doesn't count now.
Discussion and debate does not equal filibuster. Discussion and debate is what
the congress is supposed to do. They are not supposed to be "yes men"
for the president. Democrats showed their stripes yesterday when
they only gave senators a few minutes to read a 157 page bill before the vote.
No debate, no comment, not even time to read it. That is what it takes to please
the senate dems. Anything else they call a filibuster and obstructionism.Isn't it interesting that even Matheson, the democrat,
wouldn't vote for that bill? Being in the house, he did get to read it
first. Telling, isn't it?Yes Hatch voted for it, but the
elderly have always been more vulnerable to scam artists.Again,
Obama and the dems have been running the show for 4 years, hand in hand. The
current state of the nation is their doing. They do get the blame for
Afghanistan, Pakistan, the lackluster economy, unemployment, 6 trillion new
debt, expansion of out of control spending, lies about Benghazi, lies about
turning things around in one year or not running again, all of it. My compliments to ugottabkidn. You didn't blame Bush.
To you that want to blame the POTUS for the budget crisis, there is a small
detail you continually overlook. This is a Constitutional responsibility of the
House of Representatives. It must then be approved by the Senate at which time
the POTUS must sign it into law. With 4 years of fillibusters and intentional
obstruction and nullification an objective person can see why we are here. In
short, the Congress has been expecting Obama to do all the heavy lifting while
they were sitting in their offices collecting campaign funds from their true
constituents, America's real governing body, the Plutocrats.
UtahbluedevilYou make my point perfectly. You start with Bush.
He's gone. Get over it. Go rock.
@Christian 24-7 - do you also remember in the last quarter of the Bush
administration the nation was looking over 800,000 jobs a month? Do you also
remember the stock market plummeting from over 13,000 down to 6,600. Per chance
do you remember the housing collapse that happened between 2006 and 2007? Do
you recall Oil hitting $150 a barrel in the final year of the Bush
administration.Now I am not one who put all the blame for these
events at Bush's feet. There were a lot of factors that all came together
to create a financial storm of biblical magnitude. We had a banking system on
the brink of total failure. Those are simply the cards in play at the time.
Not factoring in the playing field is totally self indulgence. Obama hasn't done everything right - plenty I disagree with. But the
market has regained 98% of the 7,000 plus points lost. Housing is rebounding.
Employment is improving. We have a solvent banking system again with most TARP
money repaid. We are winding down two wars that have lasted over 10 years.
Pretending these are all failures is a bit of creative interpretation.
The liberals seem to be like Alzheimer patients; they seem to have no short term
memory. All they remember are the old days. They seem to forget the last 4 years
completely. I wish I could.I repeat, Obama is president. I remember
him saying shovel ready jobs and then laughing that they weren't shovel
ready. I remember 4 years of horrific unemployment. I remember 4 years of empty
promises. 4 years of executive order power grabs. I remember that we now have 6
trillion in new debt. I remember that the only solution Obama offers to our
fiscal problems is to spend more money we don't have. Talk about a
thoroughly tried, failed, and recycled idea.All you who can't
remember who has been president for the last 4 years need to go sit in your
rocker and dwell on Bush. We need to move forward, and you are not helping. Let
those of sound mind run with this.Blaming Bush, Fox News, and the
TEA Party is code for denial about the disastrous current administration and
"He hasn't proposed anything budget wise that is realistic."Really? Can you "Christian", concisely lay out President
Obama's budget plan? You should be able to do it easily since you have such
a strong opinion on it."All the wars we are in are Obama's
doing."Really? Please tell us how."It is not his
(President Bush's) fault any more."Of course "it"
is. If by "it" you mean two wars and making the economic collapse worse.
There were many causes of the collapse, such as vast under regulation of the
economic sector due to Republican's ideological opposition to regulation.
President Bush and the Republicans can directly be blamed for the massive run up
of debt, especially being handed a surplus and a plan where the debt would be
paid off by now. Because of the incredibly irresponsible handling of the
government's fiscal house the collapse was much worse.You
choose to forget history and have amnesia concerning anything that happened over
four years ago. I don't.
Obama created the fiscal cliff? Sorry, the fiscal cliff exists because Congress
refused to deal with fiscal matters in a responsible way.But then,
to Republicans, Obama is responsible for everything. Just a few months ago, they
were blaming him for soaring gas prices. Of course, now that prices are
slumping, do we hear them giving Obama credit? Of course not. Grow up,
Republicans. Come to the table and do something productive for a change, and
stop the incessant whining.
No wonder he won big over Romney. The haters will still find something or make
Greedy, spoiled, pampered. Those words come to my mind reading this letter. That
is how I feel about this vacation cut short by duty. It is Michelle that pops
into my mind. She stays in Hawaii and the taxpayers as usual have to pick up the
tab for a seperate Air Force plane to transport her home. She likes to fly
seperate on almost every occasion. Thus the three words that I started with.
I don't understand why, when it is so easy to check the truthfulness of any
statement from anyone, some people simply refuse to do it.Isn't
repeating a lie without checking to see if it is a lie is just another form of
lying?And if it came from a hate radio station, then we can be
pretty sure it's not the whole truth. It will be very interesting to see
the sudden change in attitude when people who spout right wing mantras suddenly
find themselves getting what they say they want.
While the administration and the Senate hammered out a plan with the Senate
Republicans into the weee hours last night, the House had headed home to ring in
the year with their family and friends, only to wander in for their first
meeting afternoon today.So I am lost here at which side
"working" and which was popping corks and cheering in the new year. The
Senate Democrats and Republicans worked together for a solution. The Speaker of
the House didn't put anything forward... nada... nothing.... other than a
bunch of press events.We need a "house" cleaning done
here.... and purge the ranks of the house of those who are more concerned with
publicity opportunities and less so with actually getting stuff done - both
sides - doesn't matter. Get to work, and off of TV.
Obama is president.That means the he signed on for the fiscal cliff.
If he hadn't, it wouldn't be law. He hasn't proposed
anything budget wise that is realistic. His proposals look like a spoiled
child's letter to Santa Claus. He doesn't negotiate with
congress, he makes demands and then runs to the press to campaign for those
demands. This is not leadership. This is no compromise. The campaign is over.
When will he lead? Probably never.Whine, whine, whine, it,s
Bush's fault. Bush isn't president and hasn't been for 4 years.
It is not his fault any more. All the wars we are in are Obama's doing.Republicans PASSED a resolution in Congress in AUGUST to solve the
fiscal cliff. The senate, under democrats, FAILED to act on it. They
waited for the election, with Obama's blessing. The president said he
wouldn't sign it. Obama should have encouraged debate, but instead he told
them to kick the can down the road, AGAIN. It is 2013. It's
Obama's America. Let's give him credit for it. He's had 4 years.
It IS OBAMA'S FAULT. Get over it.
So... when is the letter going to blame Republicans too for also being on
Obama created the fiscal cliff? Let's check your math:The
Republican congress allowed the Bush Tax Cuts to expire.The Republican
congress created the automated spending cuts.Therefore, Republican plus
Republican equals Obama's fault?That doesn't add up.You say Obama waits "until the last minute on key issues".The
Republican congress waited unil the last minute, because they thought their
candidate would win the presidential election.
Whine, whine, whine, whine, whine. If you've paying attention, Obama and
the Democrats have been the ones taking the initiative here. Boehner
couldn't even convince his own House to bring his plan to a vote.And presidents go on vacation. If anything, his vacation time has been lower
than average (Do some research and find out how much time Reagan and George W.
Bush spent away.)Obama won and Romney lost, guys. Time to get over
All this president has to do to be better than the last one is keep us out of a
ground war in Iran. That's it. After that, it's all gravy.
This letter could be summarized by, "Baahhhhh! I hate Democrats!
Bahhhh!"Of course, Jim's ranting was surprisingly absent in
the 8 years between President Clinton and President Obama. Why is that Jim?
Where was his concern over Bush's focus while New Orleans was underwater?
Happy New Year!Mr. DublinskiPres. Obama has submitted a budget
proposal every year he's been president.I'm sorry you are