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Published: Sunday, Dec. 30 2012 12:00 a.m. MST

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JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

Cutting taxes is easy. And Popular.

Cutting the associated spending is the hard part. It is the unpopular part.

When the Bush tax cuts went into affect, spending was not cut. Then we got into two wars.
Taxes were not raised.

THAT is irresponsible.

History has shown that higher rates (Clinton era) are not economy and job killers.

Would the GOP accept Clinton spending rates and Clinton tax rates? We all know the answer.

KDave
Moab, UT

What you are saying is basically we should have elected Romney. We didn.t so we will have to suck it up for the next four years.

Redshirt1701
Deep Space 9, Ut

To "JoeBlow" and what has Obama done to change things?

Has Obama got the the economy back on track? No.

Has Obama cut spending? No, he has increased it.

Has Obama done anything to help Businesses? No, he is seen by many business leaders as anti-business.

Right now the GOP would jump at the chance to have Clinton spending rates and tax rates. We should also have the Clinton era regulations.

You and your ilk will continue to blame Bush, while ignoring the fact that Obama is just Bush on steroids.

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

Red Shirt..has Obama got the economy back on track..absolutely yes..once again absolutely yes. Why are we worried about a new recession..because Obama got us out of the last one. Historicaly financial recessions take 6 years to even come close to restoring growth to it's previous level. Obama did it in 4. Is all well..no is the economy on the right track..absolutely yes.

Has Obama cut spending. yes..yes..yes. Bush's '09 budget was 1.4 trillion, Obamas 2010 budget was 1.3 trillio...2013 budget probably under a trillion..what direction is that?

Has Obama done anything to help businesses..yes..try 18 seperate tax cuts for small businesses.

Who of our ilk..is blaming Bush? Where is that?

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

Has Obama got the the economy back on track?

Well, when he took office we were losing 750,000 + jobs per month. We have been gaining jobs for a while now.

Has Obama cut spending?

No, And he needs to. But, did Bush cut spending? Did Reagan?

Has Obama done anything to help Businesses?

Depends on how you measure it. One way is by stock price. The Dow has more then doubled since he took office. That tells me LOTS

Right now the GOP would jump at the chance to have Clinton spending rates and tax rates.

Oh really? Try getting ANY tax hike thru the house.

You and your ilk will continue to blame Bush, while ignoring the fact that Obama is just Bush on steroids.

And your ILK, screams as if Obama is the second coming of Hitler. How about this. When Obama took office, the economy and jobs were in freefall. That is a fact. Things have improved.

Notice I never mentioned Bush once?

Kent C. DeForrest
Provo, UT

Conservative logic (if we can call it that) is a fascinating study. For example: "Expiration of the Bush tax policies, five new tax hikes for Obamacare, and more. It all adds up to nearly $500 billion siphoned from the private sector in just the next 12 months."

Taxes in Republican-speak represent money "siphoned" (read "stolen") from the private sector. In reality, taxes are the contribution from the private sector to help create a workable society. You know, roads, bridges, police and military, care for the elderly, etc. Our problem is that we want all the things government provides, but we don't want to pay for them. Right now we have meager economic growth. But that growth is fully funded by debt. How so? Well, take away the debt, and what do we have? Instant recession.

If we want to change this, we need to start paying for government with revenue rather than borrowing. It will be painful, but we can do it. And no, we can't balance the budget just with spending cuts. If we could, the Republicans would have offered some specifics by now. But they can't. They're all about empty talking points.

Eric Samuelsen
Provo, UT

As an exercise in conservative conventional wisdom, this exercise has its value. As an exercise in economic analysis, it's all just nonsense.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "pragmatistferlife" and "JoeBlow" if the economy is on track why did Ben Bernanke and the U.S. Federal Reserve have to initiate Quantitative Easing #3 in an effort to stimulate the economy? You say the economy is going, but the President and the Federal Reserve say otherwise. So, either you are 100% wrong, or Obama and Ben Bernanke are. Tell us, who is wrong about the economy stagnating, I agree with Obama that the economy isn't going anywhere. I only disagree with how to get it going.

To "JoeBlow" conservatives have not said that Obama is the second coming of Hitler, he just has Hitler's methods for gaining power, and is a Socialist like Hitler.

To "pragmatistferlife" you realize that even with the tax breaks for small businesses, his other mandates destroy any gains that could have been realized. Things such as the requirements in the ACA.

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

Red,

The economy was in a steep downward trend when Obama took office. Now it is in an upward trend by virtually any measure.

The economy is improving. Does that mean that nothing can be done to improve it more? Of course not.

It is never about 100%. Your statement that "either you are 100% wrong, or Obama and Ben Bernanke are"

is ludicrous.

The economy is improving from where it was 4 years ago. That is what I said.
In my mind, that is a good thing.

I find that some people, typically all partisan, find it hard to admit that, tho it is clearly staring them in the face. You perhaps?

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