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Published: Friday, Dec. 28 2012 12:00 a.m. MST

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LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

The irony is the same folks who cry foul over New York banning super sized soda (for the sake of the Health of citizens)
Have been trying to ban alcohol and cigarettes for 100 years, for the same reason.

This only proves that the Alcohol and Tobacco lobbyists in this country are expotenstionally more powerful that Coke or Pepsi.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

And BTW --

New York didn't ban soda out right,
they simply regulated the size sold.

You can always buy more than one.

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: "Most people get that each side has part of the truth . . . ."

While there are good, honest, decent people in both political parties, most are dedicated to living their lives, and seldom engage in political debate

Wisely so.

Modern American political "debate" degenerated years ago into an echo chamber of shrill liberal bleating regarding why conservatives went off the track, and how we could be so execrable as to refuse to bow to the will of the 0.000035% of Americans that engage in political "debate."

Though some liberals seem to actually believe real people listen to their vacuous sophistry, media such as this provide little more than opportunity to demonstrate commitment to rigid liberal orthodoxy.

My tiny voice merely attempts to introduce some small dissonance into the oddly coherent waves of that vast echo chamber, in the small hope that one or two "debaters" may have some idle curiosity regarding what real people actually think.

The tired, discredited "other side" is trumpeted so loud and long, I don't need to repeat it.

Just refute it.

the truth
Holladay, UT

@Kalindra

The fact that liberals and progressives believe they need to micromanage our lives should be enough.

Let us be a free people. and let us be responsible for our own ourselves.

Liberalism, progressivism, Socialism and communism is for the weak and dependent, for the immoral or amoral, for those with relative values, the irresponsible, for those that need to be told what to do and how to live.

Conservatism, capitalism, free markets, Freedom and liberty, are for the Strong and for Grown ups, who are more moral and principled, for those who are responsible, For those that willing to take the good and the bad to have more Freedom.

You can blame whomever you want for all the regulations, there is plenty of blame to go around,

but I have never seen a leftest that did not like more regulation, nor was willing to risk more freedom by giving up some regulation and control or security be it business regulation, or a mandate, the patriot act, welfare, SS, healthcare, the TSA, or choice in soft drink size.

The Left would rather the government dictate them their choices rather than have ultimate freedom of any choice.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

Corporations have proven many times they will pursue short term interests at the expense of the health and well-being of Americans and the American economy. We know individuals often choose what is expedient over what is prudent. We know people are often self-centered. Farmer A will use all the water or Corporation X will pollute the water and not worry about those downstream. We know lending institutions will encourage fabrication and loan money then sell the junk loans to someone else. We found Enron would puposely cause power shortages and then sell power at inflated prices. We know food and pharmacuetical companies will ignore contamination in their plants. We know auto manufacturers will make and sell defective dangerous cars. We know people will carry loaded guns on planes if not stopped. The list is endless. Absolutely we need regulations. I'm glad we have the FDA, TSA, EPA
etc.

Anybody who doesn't see a need for regulation is not living in the real world.

Emajor
Ogden, UT

procuradorfiscal,

Your comments are baffling. If conservatives didn't invent the art of shrill Echo Chamber political dialogue through talk radio and the Fox News network, then they certainly perfected it. But the truly odd thing is that you claim to bring some badly needed dissenting opinion to the overwhelming liberal debate, yet all I have been able to discern from your many comments is that you despise "liberals" and are content to caricature them and make the worst assumptions about their intentions. If that is the model of conservative thought, then I am very content to run the other way. Inventing an enemy and then throwing yourself into endless combat with him is a difficult way to live, I would suggest reconsidering it.

Emajor
Ogden, UT

the truth,

Thank you for so effectively disproving procuradorfiscal's claim that liberals have created the "shrill bleating echo chamber" dialogue of political discourse.

one old man
Ogden, UT

Emajor, Truthseeker, LDS Liberal, Hutterite -- thank you all for being intelligent, thinking, patriotic Americans who have the good sense to stand for truth in a world filled with conservative fantasies.

It's a never ending and thankless job, but someone has to try to counter the lies of hate radio and those who are gullible enough to believe and mindlessly repeat them.

All I can say is thank goodness there are enough of us out there to have prevented the election of Mr. Romney.

Although I vigorously opposed Hillary in the 2008 election, she's looking better and better all the time as a possible replacement for President Obama. Certainly infinitely better than anything the GOP fielded this last time. And won't it be FUN to hear all the wailing and gnashing of teeth in Utah when she's elected?

ECR
Burke, VA

One old man - I have to say I am disappointed to not be included in your Justice League organization. =)
But, if I keep trying, maybe someday. Happy New Year!

Eric Samuelsen
Provo, UT

Every one of these regulations makes perfect sense to me. Yay for federal regulators!

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: "Inventing an enemy and then throwing yourself into endless combat with him is a difficult way to live . . . ."

I should probably pay some heed to that comment -- if anyone would know about the difficulty of endless combat with an invented enemy, that would be liberals.

But, it's nice to have my approach validated. Unfair liberal censure, criticism, calumny, and defamation -- but never refutation -- is the clearest possible indicator I'm on the right track.

Thanks!

Emajor
Ogden, UT

procuradorfiscal,
My comment was neither censure nor calumny/defamation. And criticism is fair game. Refutation is irrelevant because you didn't have a point to refute, just incoherent strings of insult directed at caricatures you've invented. So take that as validation if you must. And you're welcome, I guess.

Utes Fan
Salt Lake City, UT

@procuradorfiscal

"It's anti-freedom, anti-prosperity, anti-American liberals we fear, not those pointing out the emperor's unclothed status."
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Thank you for your comments. I agree completely. We need to condemn the pro-regulation, anti-freedom liberal left as strongly as possible. You see, I used to be one of them. I voted for John Kerry in 2004 and was angry Bush won. I used to think that regulations and bigger government were the solutions to every problem in society.

What changed me? Well, I changed jobs in 2006. I went to work for a technology organization that was under federal regulations. I couldn't believe how difficult, nay impossible, it was for me and the company I worked for to do my job under the constant threat of a federally forced shutdown if we didn't do things exactly as the suits in Washington mandated. The regulations were so rigid and useless that I completely changed all my political views. I am now vehemently opposed to the anti-American agenda of the liberal left.

Oh, by the way, the organization I worked for failed and had to shut down the project it was working on, not surprisingly.

Redshirt1701
Deep Space 9, Ut

The liberals have gone with their typical attacks, not on the content of the letter, but have attacked the letter writer. This only proves that what was written is true.

Even if the Republicans complain only about the costs of the regulations, that itself is something to pay attention to. Think about it this way. If businesses are spending more money complying with regulations, how do you expect them to hire more people or even pay their workers more?

None of the regulations listed in this letter was either cost effective or beneficial. How do you liberals justify wasting money on regulations that only impede business?

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