What the commoncensus poll tells me is that BYU has a smattering of fans
distributed all around the country like few other programs. It's not as
impressive to me that BYU was in the top ten in DFW, as it is that they got
votes in pretty much every area of the country, including SEC country.
. . meanwhile, the grown-ups in the room wonder with amusement why the children
seem so intent on getting some other kids to cry "uncle."Really. This is is very minor stuff from any angle, but then it doesn't
take much to get certain nameless posters irritated. I'm not sure what
fuels the insatiable desire to shoot holes in even a hint of a whisper of a
suggestion of anything positive about BYU. To say "BYU has a sizeable
national following" is basically true, isn't it? Do I care about the
specific rankings or the methodology behind them? Nah. No matter what you
conclude about this "study," it doesn't change anything.And I love the guy that wags his finger at Rock for lazy, unethical
journalism. Whoah; relax, brah. The "BYU is kinda popular" mini-story
consisted of a few lines in what is obviously intended to be a puff piece in the
first place. Save the stern too-strident-by-99% lectures for something more
important, like . . I don't know . . a column about fun Family Home Evening
activities. Now, off you go, children . .
@Two For Flinching"We all know that BYU has a bigger fan base than
Utah." So let me submit that it is actually the anti-BYU fanatics who
look and sound ridiculous for railing against that poll, while simultenously
admitting that it is basically true
"Would you like to point out my alleged logical fallacy?"Simply cutting and pasting is proof enough.
Question: If Robert Anae's performance cost him his job, who should BYU
hire before spring training to fill the OC position that's been empty since
@ Jeff29We all know that BYU has a bigger fan base than Utah.
However the online poll the DNews reported on is complete garbage, and you know
it. So let me submit that it is actually the BYU fans who look and sound
ridiculous for rallying around that poll....
Win or lose I watch BYU. Fortunately they win more often than not FB or BB
It seems pretty clear to me what the AD for Wisconsin was thinking in hiring
Gary Anderson, but then again, I'm not a BYU fan/sports writer so I
won't try too hard to understand their world view...We will see
how wise the hire was in the next few years, but I anticipate that Anderson will
do quite well at Wisconsin.
Jeff29:Would you like to point out my alleged logical fallacy? My
post was only 77 words long. Where did I go wrong?And while
you're at it, please explain why Indy-WACey fans seem to think
"n'uh-uh" is a complete and valid argument? Why don't you
believe supporting documentation is necessary?
Rock, didn't you ever take a statistics class in college? Do the words
sample size, methodology, accuracy and reliability of data ring any bells? Or
how about a writing ethics class? Either one should have taught you to not to
publish someone eases data without verifying it? Your reporting in this article
on the popularity of the BYU fan base is disgustingly lazy. Hint: Everything on
the internet is not always accurate and true.(see State Farm commercial) Spend a
little time researching your topic.
.... And Naval Vet returns.... let the logical fallacy resume.Dear
Ute fans, please stop rejecting the idea that BYU has a national, and even
international. fan base. You just simply sound misinformed. If you want to
talk about beating BYU 7 out of the last 10 years, or having the probable #1
draft pick this year, or even being the PAC 12 sellar dweller, go right ahead;
but please stop denying the size of BYU's fan base. We're not saying
that we are Notre Dame, or Texas, but the reach of BYU football dwarfs that of
the U by so much that you all just sound ridiculous.
Rational:"Being #5 in DFW IS a big deal."Is it?
According to that map awarding the Indy-WACers the #5 spot in the Dallas/Ft.
Worth area.....they actually TIED for #5 with North Texas, and the
cougar's epic "Rivalry Weekend" opponent, New Mexico State. Breaking that down even further, Texas A&M was #1...with 19 votes,
followed by Texas with 6, and Texas Tech with 2. The Y got ONE VOTE! Wow!
That really IS a big deal!
Mountanman:"Coach Mendenhall always says the reason for the loss
is that HE failed to prepare the team property....being the class individual he
is"...and then avers that he "wasn't convinced the
better team won." And while that might pass for "classy" down there
in WACistan, anywhere else he'd be called a "classless" sore loser.
Taymen Hill, please next time take a knee when you know the game is pretty much
over. And, need to learn more to stay in the pocket.PINK? I can see
those players wearing PINK print on their butts (of course on their jersey
pants). Pink locker room?
junkgeek:Texas is the state school, TCU is in DFW. There are 10 Big 12
teams. Baylor, Texas Tech, Texas A&M are BCS teams in the state. SMU,
Houston, Rice, North Texas and how many other schools are in Texas? ALL
fourteen of those FBS schools have numerous alumni in DFW. Being #5 in DFW IS a
#5 in DFW means that they are barely on the college football radar in a region
that is a pro- and high-school football region.
The Iowa locker room thing is a copycat job of the University of Iowa where the
locker room has been painted pink for decades.
@BlameItOnTheOfficials, I'm okay with the column. If some find Rock mean or
negative, and others think he's a homer, he's doing it right. The way
your first sentence is written, we can't tell which one you are, but either
way, in totality Rock did a great job with his finger on the pulse of things,
and in a light-hearted way.More columns like this from Rock,
please.On the other topic, I totally agree with AKFan, 3grandslams,
and Mountanman.Take any coach, and ask them what they think their
record would be if they had to use three different starting quarterbacks for at
least two games apiece in the same season, and you can only choose quarterbacks
from your own roster. Coming out of that nightmare 8-5 and a decisive bowl
victory over a 9-3 team, shows us what a stellar coach Bronco Mendenhall is.
Fans with oversimplified criticism do not often know anything.
I'll forgive Mr Rock for another column filled with failing attempts of
humor but there's nothing to forgive regarding any of the coaching
decisions made during the year at BYU. Was this just another try to stir up some
controversy? Mr. Rock, you're better than this. Give us real sports
I agree with 3 grand slams. When BYU loses a game, Coach Mendenhall always says
the reason for the loss is that HE failed to prepare the team property. A lesser
coach or person might blame the refs for bad calls or certain players making
mistakes, but being the class individual he is, Bronco puts the blame on his
back! Takes coaching to a higher level doesn't it?
Have to agree with AKfan. Victory formation was called for Hill, the injury to
him should truly be chalked up to an inexpericenced qb running the show.
Mendenhall made it to easy for the media to pile on him and not go after Hill.
Bronco always protects his players.
If you listened listened to the details, the correct play was called that would
have spared Hill the injury, but a problem with getting his attention resulted
in him running the play that resulted in his injury. Players can get injured in
practice, or in any part of the game. Nelson's experience proves this.
There is not guarantee Hill would not have been injured in the next game, or the
next. In the chaos that reigns in College football once the ball is snapped, no
one is guaranteed to finish any play uninjured. Hopefully Hill will fully
recover from his injury and do well next season, but no matter how smartly he is
deployed, another injury is potentially only one play away.
We forgive Doman for being a poor coach, a disaster of an offensive coordinator
and for nearly ruining the career of a promising and talented player. That one
call sums up the absence of common sense in Doman (and Bronco) that seems to
come naturally to the more successful OC's found at more successful
programs. So, yes, we all forgive Doman, but, forgiveness doesn't mean
keeping an ineffectual coach and OC at the reigns of a once proud, potent and
high achieving offense. We all wish him luck in his next gig, whatever (and
wherever)that may be, and ask that he not let the door hit him in the butt on
his way out.