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Published: Wednesday, Dec. 26 2012 8:16 a.m. MST

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32843
PROVO, UT

We forgive Doman for being a poor coach, a disaster of an offensive coordinator and for nearly ruining the career of a promising and talented player. That one call sums up the absence of common sense in Doman (and Bronco) that seems to come naturally to the more successful OC's found at more successful programs. So, yes, we all forgive Doman, but, forgiveness doesn't mean keeping an ineffectual coach and OC at the reigns of a once proud, potent and high achieving offense. We all wish him luck in his next gig, whatever (and wherever)that may be, and ask that he not let the door hit him in the butt on his way out.

AKFan
JUNEAU, AK

If you listened listened to the details, the correct play was called that would have spared Hill the injury, but a problem with getting his attention resulted in him running the play that resulted in his injury. Players can get injured in practice, or in any part of the game. Nelson's experience proves this. There is not guarantee Hill would not have been injured in the next game, or the next. In the chaos that reigns in College football once the ball is snapped, no one is guaranteed to finish any play uninjured. Hopefully Hill will fully recover from his injury and do well next season, but no matter how smartly he is deployed, another injury is potentially only one play away.

3grandslams
Iowa City, IA

Have to agree with AKfan. Victory formation was called for Hill, the injury to him should truly be chalked up to an inexpericenced qb running the show. Mendenhall made it to easy for the media to pile on him and not go after Hill.

Bronco always protects his players.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

I agree with 3 grand slams. When BYU loses a game, Coach Mendenhall always says the reason for the loss is that HE failed to prepare the team property. A lesser coach or person might blame the refs for bad calls or certain players making mistakes, but being the class individual he is, Bronco puts the blame on his back! Takes coaching to a higher level doesn't it?

BlameItOnTheOfficials
Cottonwood Heights, UT

I'll forgive Mr Rock for another column filled with failing attempts of humor but there's nothing to forgive regarding any of the coaching decisions made during the year at BYU. Was this just another try to stir up some controversy? Mr. Rock, you're better than this. Give us real sports stories.

guitarboy
South Jordan, UT

@BlameItOnTheOfficials, I'm okay with the column. If some find Rock mean or negative, and others think he's a homer, he's doing it right. The way your first sentence is written, we can't tell which one you are, but either way, in totality Rock did a great job with his finger on the pulse of things, and in a light-hearted way.

More columns like this from Rock, please.

On the other topic, I totally agree with AKFan, 3grandslams, and Mountanman.

Take any coach, and ask them what they think their record would be if they had to use three different starting quarterbacks for at least two games apiece in the same season, and you can only choose quarterbacks from your own roster. Coming out of that nightmare 8-5 and a decisive bowl victory over a 9-3 team, shows us what a stellar coach Bronco Mendenhall is. Fans with oversimplified criticism do not often know anything.

OHBU
Columbus, OH

The Iowa locker room thing is a copycat job of the University of Iowa where the locker room has been painted pink for decades.

junkgeek
Agua Dulce, TX

#5 in DFW means that they are barely on the college football radar in a region that is a pro- and high-school football region.

Rational
Salt Lake City, UT

junkgeek:
Texas is the state school, TCU is in DFW. There are 10 Big 12 teams. Baylor, Texas Tech, Texas A&M are BCS teams in the state. SMU, Houston, Rice, North Texas and how many other schools are in Texas? ALL fourteen of those FBS schools have numerous alumni in DFW. Being #5 in DFW IS a big deal.

DEW Cougars
Sandy, UT

Taymen Hill, please next time take a knee when you know the game is pretty much over. And, need to learn more to stay in the pocket.

PINK? I can see those players wearing PINK print on their butts (of course on their jersey pants). Pink locker room?

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

Mountanman:

"Coach Mendenhall always says the reason for the loss is that HE failed to prepare the team property....being the class individual he is"

...and then avers that he "wasn't convinced the better team won." And while that might pass for "classy" down there in WACistan, anywhere else he'd be called a "classless" sore loser.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

Rational:

"Being #5 in DFW IS a big deal."

Is it? According to that map awarding the Indy-WACers the #5 spot in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area...

..they actually TIED for #5 with North Texas, and the cougar's epic "Rivalry Weekend" opponent, New Mexico State.

Breaking that down even further, Texas A&M was #1...with 19 votes, followed by Texas with 6, and Texas Tech with 2. The Y got ONE VOTE! Wow! That really IS a big deal!

Jeff29
Draper, UT

.... And Naval Vet returns.... let the logical fallacy resume.

Dear Ute fans, please stop rejecting the idea that BYU has a national, and even international. fan base. You just simply sound misinformed. If you want to talk about beating BYU 7 out of the last 10 years, or having the probable #1 draft pick this year, or even being the PAC 12 sellar dweller, go right ahead; but please stop denying the size of BYU's fan base. We're not saying that we are Notre Dame, or Texas, but the reach of BYU football dwarfs that of the U by so much that you all just sound ridiculous.

Silent Lurker
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Rock, didn't you ever take a statistics class in college? Do the words sample size, methodology, accuracy and reliability of data ring any bells? Or how about a writing ethics class? Either one should have taught you to not to publish someone eases data without verifying it? Your reporting in this article on the popularity of the BYU fan base is disgustingly lazy. Hint: Everything on the internet is not always accurate and true.(see State Farm commercial) Spend a little time researching your topic.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

Jeff29:

Would you like to point out my alleged logical fallacy? My post was only 77 words long. Where did I go wrong?

And while you're at it, please explain why Indy-WACey fans seem to think "n'uh-uh" is a complete and valid argument? Why don't you believe supporting documentation is necessary?

awilk7
USA, UT

It seems pretty clear to me what the AD for Wisconsin was thinking in hiring Gary Anderson, but then again, I'm not a BYU fan/sports writer so I won't try too hard to understand their world view...

We will see how wise the hire was in the next few years, but I anticipate that Anderson will do quite well at Wisconsin.

What in Tucket?
Provo, UT

Win or lose I watch BYU. Fortunately they win more often than not FB or BB

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

@ Jeff29

We all know that BYU has a bigger fan base than Utah. However the online poll the DNews reported on is complete garbage, and you know it. So let me submit that it is actually the BYU fans who look and sound ridiculous for rallying around that poll....

manaen1
Buena Park, CA

Question: If Robert Anae's performance cost him his job, who should BYU hire before spring training to fill the OC position that's been empty since Anae left?

Swoop
Salt Lake City, UT

"Would you like to point out my alleged logical fallacy?"

Simply cutting and pasting is proof enough.

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