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Published: Monday, Dec. 24 2012 12:00 a.m. MST

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DN Subscriber 2
SLC, UT

Remember, this is a story from Associated Press, which is well known to be inaccurate and have a very leftist slant to its "reporting."

Also, remember that while Israel's focus is on the terrorist threat to schools, we in the U.S. have not even dared to contemplate a Beslan style terror attack on schools, or a Mumbai style attack on a city. Maybe, if we just all get along the people who hate us and have sworn to kill us, will leave us alone. Wanna bet how well that works out...?

The two most important facts are buried well down in the story:

"In 2008, another Palestinian assailant killed eight young people, most of them teens, at ... a Jewish religious seminary.... An off-duty soldier who happened to be in the area killed the attacker with his personal firearm." Proving that a bad guy with a gun was stopped by a good guy with a gun, who was not even a cop.

"Israel didn't mandate armed guards at the entrances to all schools until 1995..." so they have had armed guards for 27 years, and we are supposed to think it is a crazy idea?

Johnny Moser
Thayne, WY

What is a terrorist attack? We have yet to fully understand the motives for the latest attack. In locations accustomed to near-constant assault there is no question about the motives. We afford ourselves the luxury of freedom of speech and actions that are also not constitutionally protected in Israel. It is a slippery slope when we begin to select a constraint for one freedom. When does it stop? I am certain that we can find groups and associated lawyers that argue that any and/or all of the constitutional rights should be limited.
Certainly there are challenges with what we currently have. We have a difficult time calling the attacks terrorism but by the academic definition, the attack of children, anywhere, is very much terrorism.
We really have two options and neither is very comforting: Restrict guns and change the constitution OR do as Israel is doing - build a network of protective measures where the response time to an incident is minutes. The last is expensive and difficult for a country that is the 4th largest in the world.
It certainly would be difficult to implement in a location like Cokeville, WY. That was terrorism in a school.

KJB1
Eugene, OR

DN Subscriber 2:

I know some actual "leftists" who would laugh at the AP being characterized so. This is just your version of putting your fingers in your ears and singing "La, la, la..."

Another Perspective
Bountiful, UT

And the difference between a terrorist and a crazed or disgruntled gunman is ...?

Fact is Israel keeps its schools safe(er) with good guys with guns. Expensive but effective if done properly.

Utah also has some teachers with carry permits. This is a less expensive alternative than what Israel does or what the NRA proposes. I for one as a parent feel good about this.

Many Utah homes have guns ready to protect the people inside and criminals know this. As a result ALL Utah homes are safer not just the ones with guns.

owlmaster2
Kaysville, UT

@ Another Perspective.....Take a poll of teachers and find out if they are willing to carry loaded weapons in their classrooms. I'm betting the vast majority would be appalled at the thought.
They are not police officers, they are teachers. Most make less than a police officer and you want them to teach your children and be a police officer as well and you still don't want to pay them because "this is less expensive"?
Give me a break.

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