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Published: Saturday, Dec. 22 2012 11:05 p.m. MST

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T. Smith
Salt Lake, UT

It is not just young families or the chronic joblessness. I retired recently and cannot find reasonable housing with my retirement income-- every month we feel like we are only 30 days away from homeless. My wife became permanently disabled last year and because we are not yet 65, there is no health insurance available.

Congress want to raise the social security age to 68 or even 70... but there are not enough jobs available to older people. If this happens, it will only increase the number of homeless and the demand for low income shelter.

Lasvegaspam
Henderson, NV

As I read about shelters, I think about the Cabrini Green high-rise apartment homes and the Robert Taylor homes (all now torn down) in Chicago. Each of these was built with the same goal in mind; of providing decent rental housing for the poor. If you're interested, read about the catastrophe both projects ended up being, how both turned into ghettos almost immediately, and why both are now considered the biggest urban renewal flubs in the history of "helping the poor". Perhaps smaller shelters (as mentioned in this story), spread out throughout a city, are indeed the answer.

no fit in SG
St.George, Utah

And yet the wealthy in America and around our world have more money and resources than they can count, But...they never seem to have enough, do they?
If only there was a way for those of less means, but larger hearts to be in included as members of the Congress and Senate of the United States of America. More of these folks and less of the wealthy could change our world.
Fortunately, many of the kind and caring in America, are working hard to provide a roof over the heads of the less fortunate.
We all can help these, sometimes forgotten citizens all year long with any extra resources we may have.

K
Mchenry, IL

Cabrini green started out as a mixed income development. But yes the design of those places just made the place into a war zone. Subsidizing housing spread out was the better choice. The real problem is the lack of segregation to the city. Some areas are all AA, or all white or all hispanic or all name the next wave of immigrant Polish or Russian. As each group moves into the area those residents leave and displace the next community who also seeks to flee. It takes years to get housing subsidy in Il.

You can't gross $1300 a month and afford anything. A shelter, meaning a room that is shared or not, is not a housing solution. An apartment is. Families are trying to live on this income and job type for the duration and not just in school.

one old man
Ogden, UT

An excellent comment, T. Smith.

Yet there are people out there who will accuse you of laziness and sloth. Who will whine that if you just bucked up and worked harder, you wouldn't need help.

It's a tragedy that in this nation we've allowed compassion to be drowned in a cup of tea.

Clarissa
Layton, UT

I believe that is you qualify for social security benefits because of illness, you can qualify for medicare. T Smith should look into this possibility. I know about it because I have Multiple Sclerois. Fortunately, my husband can carry our insurance.

RBB
Sandy, UT

Criticizing the "wealthy" will do little to help the problem. The wealthy are not the reason most people are struggling. Rather, you will likely find that the Road Home and other productive charities are mostly funded by these people who have exercised self discipline, hard work and thrift to build a better life for themselves.

There are many reasons for lack of affordable housing. If you have elected not to get an education or other job skills and will only make minimum wage for the long term, it will be challenge. Government funding won't solve the problem. Go to Chicago, Milwaukee or Detroit. I have worked in the housing projects and they often spiral downward. Rather than simply provide a solution for lack of affordable housing, we should be looking at how we can help families in the long term to afford what housing is available. For the most part, this includes better education or training. Of course, you can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink.

JWB
Kaysville, UT

Having lived in the east side of St. Louis, on the Illinois side for 9 years with a very beneficial welfare system in President Obama's state of choice and Chicago group, that process didn't work for helping people with the handouts of food a housing.

You have to have responsibility along with the entitlements. With the types of welfare they had, when people on welfare were offered $30 - $40 an hour to unload train cars with hazardous waste and still not lose their benefits, there were no takers. That required work in a hot and uncomfortable set of clothing.

Kalindra
Salt Lake City, Utah

@ RBB: If wages for the middle class had grown at the same rate as wages for executives, minimum wage would be over $23/hr.

Hostess executives gave themselves huge raises while reducing the wages of those who made and delivered the product.

Papa John's is more concerned about shareholders making money than about the line staff having the hours needed to provide for their families.

A recent report by the non-partisan Congressional Research Service shows that trickle down economics do not work.

All the rich may not be the problem, but they are not the solution either.

Kalindra
Salt Lake City, Utah

@ JWB: what's the name of that study?

wazzup
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Who is the benevolent landlord? And where is the father? That is a huge societal problem. Father's not stepping up and supporting the children they brought into the world!

I hope this woman finds a permanent place for her and her daughter.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

I want to know what price makes it "affordable" house. Is it $600/mo, is it $200/mo, or is it $800/mo? At what point does housing become unaffordable.

DN Subscriber 2
SLC, UT

Two solutions:

All the bleeding heart liberals need to get into the rental business and offer nice houses for less than it costs to buy, insure, and maintain them. Problem solved.

The "low income" folks need more or better paying jobs. Like those that would be created if taxes on the job producers were lowered, and the stifling blanket of over-regulation did not discourage new or expanded job opportunities. No one will invest their savings, and their labor to create more or better jobs when the rewards for their investment are just not worth it. More jobs...better pay... family incomes increase... and more people can afford better housing. Problem solved.

Giving away "free stuff" is a sure way to stifle the desire (or necessity) for people to understand that benefits come from hard work and good decisions, and negative things happen from bad decisions.

Equality of opportunity does not guarantee equality of outcomes.

Utahns are charitable people, and WILL help the truly needy who cannot help themselves.

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