per one old man..."Apparently some of those vaunted
"conservative Utah Family Values" we hear so much about include twisting
the truth and outright lying... I could go on. But some folks wouldn't
recognize truth simply because they are completely unfamiliar with it."Maybe, as Col Nathan Jessup said, "They can't handle the
Apparently some of those vaunted "conservative Utah Family Values" we
hear so much about include twisting the truth and outright lying.Obama phones? Nonsense. But try Reagan phones and you have something.Dead Kurds? Yes, but by the time President Cheney and his little friend
invaded Iraq, those weapons had been eliminated -- by, guess who? -- the hated
United Nations.I could go on. But some folks wouldn't
recognize truth simply because they are completely unfamiliar with it.
@mountain. Where is all this free stuff you can get? Where can you sign up for
@ pragmatistferlife. Your response was nothing more than wrongheaded bloviating!
To say that free stuff from the government has not increased while the
percentage of Americans who actually pay any federal income taxes has not
decreased under Obama is just not so! And now, we have to figure out how we will
ever pay for Obamacare (more free stuff for millions of Americans) No Obama
supporter has answered the real question; who is going to pay for all of the
Virtue and honesty..and Mitt Romney..that's rich.
Miss Piggie,Mitt Romney was caught in far too many lies during the
campaign for you to make any claims that he lost the election because of his
"virtue and honesty". Is flip-flopping like fish out of water virtuous
and honest? "Appeal to the voter's baser instincts"? Like massaging
rich donors' egos by saying that 47% of the country are moochers who will
only vote for his opponent, even though that statement is embedded with several
large misinterpretations and outright lies?
It's fine DN, keep posting the right wing nonsense. From the comments we
can see the majority of the online readers don't agree, but find it amusing
@Ralph West Jordan:"In my opinion it is the radical right that caused
Romney to lose an election that was his for the taking!"No, no.
What lost Mitt the election was, he forgot the fundamentals of running for an
elective office... find out what most people want and tell them you'll get
it for them. Also, appeal to the voter's baser instincts. Virtue and
honesty won't cut it.It doesn't matter what the candidate
believes or wants. It's what the voter believes and wants.Obama did it brilliantly.
Have any liberals decried "Chicago Politics" or have they simply told us
that because others do what they do, that they are blameless?Telling
that you're only half-bad because nobody is perfect is not addressing the
problem. Chicago Politics, by definition, involves graft. Is graft excusable?
Is paying for votes (whether through Solyndra, or through G.M., or through
Chrysler) ever acceptable? By who's standards?Corruption is
corruption. When it is the way that people gain and hold office it is
reprehensible. When it is promoted by the followers of those who gain office,
it is a malignant disease. If left unchecked, it will destroy America from
@embarrassed Utahn!:"My President is a class-act and I urge you to
write a new letter...one with specifics instead of unsubstantiated
innuendo."Obama didn't lie so much as flip-flop... er, I
mean evolve.What won Obama the election was... handing out cell
phones to his friends, the African American constituency; amnesty for the
Illegal immigrant constituency; same sex marriage for his homosexual
constituency; smoking pot (admittedly) in his younger days for his druggie
constituency.And what lost Romney the election is insisting on
smaller government, reduced taxes, and encouraging hard work to succeed. Very
poor agenda for today's America. Times have changed. "If
one party has a problem with LYING it is the republicans! WMDs
anyone????"Tell us, embarrassed Utahn, what killed the Kurds in
mountainman..free stuff/entitlements..get real. SS, medicare, medicade,
unemployment etc. etc. have been around for decades. Do they need
tweaking..sure, but your insinuation that Obama was promising free stuff with
these programs is not just wrong, it's wronheaded.
Thank you, Mr. Russell for a perfect description of Utah politics.
The description fits most all the cities in the USA.
Romney offered more jobs, Obama offered more bribes for votes (entitlements).
The question none of you have ever answered is how are we going to pay for all
the free stuff the Demoborrowers are handing out? Keep borrowing, print more
worthless paper, or tax the rich so he can run the government another 9 days?
Please explain how Obama will pay for the other 356 days?
Repubs are still moaning and complaining about the Presidential Election? Seriously???
Here, Here to "embarrassed Utahn, Emajor, ECR and pragmatistforlife".
They each are much more eloguent and right on target than I could ever hope to
be! Mr. Russells letter takes the art of whineing to new heights. I found it
interesting that he mentions "Bribery" all the while looking past the
kings of the art, the infamous Koch Bros. and their minions of wannabes. Having
read most of the letters to Editors in both the local daily's I find it
very easy to spot members of the rad. right as opposed to main stream
conservatives. In my opinion it is the radical right that caused Romney to lose
an election that was his for the taking! It is the Radical Right that will take
us over the fiscal cliff, and it is the radical right that will give the house
back to the Dems in 2014 and 2016, then they will really have something to whine
We're in an America where politics is purchased by big money PACs.
The hilarious insinuation underlying this rant about the "Chicago political
machine" is that the GOP is a paragon of virtue. According to Mr. Russell,
in order to regain leadership, the GOP will have to lie, cheat, steal, and
bribe. Well, I have news for you, they are already well practiced in all of
these activities. We have to look no further than Mitt Romney's campaign
and his business practices at Bain Capital.Fortunately, the Tea
Party is tearing the GOP apart. With any luck, a reasonable moderate party will
emerge from the wreckage and the Tea Party can secede from the union and set up
camp in some forsaken corner of Texas, perhaps that YFZ place.
Mr. Russell, what did you do to help the situation while you were part of the
Chicago political machine? Did you become a whistleblower? Expose it with facts
and details in the media?
"Patronage, favoritism and bribery will beat patriotism and love of country
every time." Like the republican bridge to nowhere, the fighter jet the
repbulicans won't take out of the pentagon budget, that the pentagon
doesn't want, the unpaid for medicare prescription program GWB pushed
through? The list goes on an on. What's so disingenuous about this
letter and dozens like it is the insinuation that Barack Obama invented
favoritism (chicago style politics). It wasn't around much less rampant
previous to this President. My word, if you want to be taken seriously outside
of your own bubble, at least be honest.
Apparently in one last futile attempt to discredit the man who just won
reelection to the presidency, Mr. Russel tries to link President Obama with the
legendary political machine that runs Chicago. All of the reading I have done,
and I've read both sides of the issues, Mr. Russel's pretenses are
false. The facts about Mr. Obama include these:His only time in
Chicago was three years working as a community organizer in a poor, south side
neighborhoodHe is a savvy politician who knows the right associations to
make (ie., His joining Reverend Jeremiah Wright's congregation was more for
political connections than for religious philosophy)He is often accused of
being unappreciative of those who have helped him (Is that indicative of the
Chicago machine? I don't think so)He has (had) a clear vision of
where he wanted to be and where he wanted to go and he used his past offices (in
the state senate and in the United States Senate) as stepping stones to the
presidency.Despite what some believe to be personality flaws, there is no
evidence of personal corruption in his past. Sorry Mr. Russel but you are wrong.
"Patronage, favoritism and bribery will beat patriotism and love of country
every time."I know this letter was intended to be a childish
stick in the eye to the Democrats, but when I read this line, all I could think
of was the GOP political machine and their large corporate sponsors, their
kowtowing to the NRA, their pioneering of super pacs, their fear of Grover
Norquist. If you are a large corporate interest, you can buy the allegiance of
your elected official. And if you are a large corporate interest shopping for a
senator, you are looking in the GOP aisle.
And Mitt Romney was the "choir boy" in a mob of liars and thiefs?
That's so hilarious! Ever hear of Fact-check? Mitt's outrageous and
oft-repeated lie about Jeep moving to China was one of the biggest lies of the
year!My President is a class-act and I urge you to write a new
letter...one with specifics instead of unsubstantiated innuendo.If
one party has a problem with LYING it is the republicans! WMDs anyone????