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Published: Friday, Dec. 21 2012 12:00 a.m. MST

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worf
Mcallen, TX

Let Obama have his way. After all, he's what the people voted for.

You know! We'll all be under "Obama's care", and everything will be just wonderful.

Say No to BO
Mapleton, UT

Seriously, if our "leaders" sincerely wanted to fix this problem they would have done it LAST December when the sequestration clock started ticking. Instead they wanted to campaign on lots of entitlement spending and low taxes.
So the House goes on vacation while I get Monday and Tuesday off.
And Obama blames the GOP. (No surprise there.)
Somehow I'm supposed to care about their dilemma that has been 13 months in the making.
I'm sorry, I don't.

not here
COLORADO SPRINGS, CO

@wolf ,bo:

Wolf, You have done nothing but bad mouth the president. So tell me are you ready to go over the cliff because the GOP/TP has decided it's not worth the fight and are nothing but spineless people that only care about them selfs?

Bo, And why not blame the GOP/TP? There the ones that got mad and took there ball and went home just like the losers they are. And all so if think they don't need to be blamed then please explain how come.

Say No to BO
Mapleton, UT

I'm not absolving the GOP here. They are all to blame.
Reid has been nothing but a naysayer and Obama offered nothing of substance except tax the rich.

VST
Bountiful, UT

This is a message for all naysayers' who complain and bellyache about recalcitrant Republicans.

Continuing to cite how stupid they are NEVER solves the problem. Stupid or not, if you think they will be thrown out of office (in mass) by their constituents, then I have a bridge I want to sell you.

Everyone gripes about Congress not doing their job (and their approval numbers show it), but when it comes to changing their Congressional Representative, they will not do it because the majority of their constituents like them. In their eyes, it is everybody's OTHER Congressional Representative that needs to be thrown out.

With what happened last night in the House, clearly the ball is now in the Court of the Democrats. They need to craft something that will get enough support from their Democrat caucus and enough support from some Republicans for it to pass in the House.

Like it or not, that is political reality folks.

FT
salt lake city, UT

GOP cannot govern. Remember this is the party that just a few years ago took over all three braches of goverment, with a budget surplus and created a huge mess. Cutting taxes and increasing spending is not governing! At this point, America's best alternative is to go over the cliff, and then address taxes and spending individually. The reality is we have to cut entitlements and defense considerably, as well as raise taxes. The Democrats are willing to do both of these things. The GOP will only consider one of them (cutting spending). You can't cut enough spending unless you cut defense, which the GOP won't do. Americans have spoken. They want Social Securtiy, Medicare and Medicaid to survive so the GOP needs to accept that, find the funding to support them and propose other spending cuts. Americans should vote out any representative who is unwilling to compormise and restore our country's fiscal health.

worf
Mcallen, TX

not here,

Did I bad mouth Obama? I said to let him have his way. He's increased the deficit over sixty percent in less then 4 years. I wouldn't critized that. Let's blame the Republicans for not wanting to remove the deficit ceiling.

cpafred
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

@VST
"With what happened last night in the House, clearly the ball is now in the Court of the Democrats. They need to craft something that will get enough support from their Democrat caucus and enough support from some Republicans for it to pass in the House."

So, VST, you seem to be saying that since the GOP cannot even pass their own bill, it is now up to the Democrat-ic (yes, the respectful term is Democratic) party to save the country. Please tell me if I am interpreting you incorrectly.

What we are witnessing here folks, is TOTAL incompetence displayed by the GOP. We witnessed enough GOP incompetence with the last administration, but now we have House leaders who cannot pass their own bills, and a Senate Minority leader who filibusters his own legislation. It is even dawning on the most right-leaning citizens that there is only one group of competent lawmakers capable of saving us from recession at this point.

By the way, I am at work today (watching the stock market tumble). Where are the members of the House? Why aren't they working right now?! They have been on vacation too long already IMO.

the truth
Holladay, UT

It doesn't matter what the republicans do.

The left will never demand the demcrats to ocompromise.

The Left will blame the republicans no matter what happens,

They right will blame them for going along, or the left will blame them for doing nothing or not compromising enough,

So the republicans ought to do nothing and hold to promises for which they were elected.

Stand for something.

And let Obama and the demcrats be the in charge of the greatest tax increase in history.

VST
Bountiful, UT

Yes @cpafred – that is correct, and as I said on another post to you, it is the truth, and it is political reality. The ball is now in the Democrats Court.

But here is an important point. If Boehner could not get a tax cutoff point at $1.0M through the House (tax increase for those making $1.0M or more) what makes anyone, ESPECIALLY the Congressional Democrats and the President, think the House will approve a cutoff point of $400K?

Not gonna happen.

mohokat
Ogden, UT

This is all smoke and mirrors on the Kings part. He wants I repeat wants to go over the so called cliff. He gets his tax increases, He gets to gut the defense dept budget. He then can ride in on his white horse and propose tax cuts for the middle class. Its a win win for him. This is all BS on his part which is normal for him.

cpafred
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

@mohokat
The King is in town (Wash DC) willing to work with the GOP. It is the rats that have fled the ship after not being able to pass their own bill!

cpafred
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

@VST

Your argument makes sense if we disregard reality. However, the reality is that the Republican Leadership of the House controls the legislative agenda in the House. Boehner has proven he can't get his own bills passed and it would be political suicide for him to bring up a bill crafted by the Democrats.

So even though you have admittedly (and rightly) abandoned all belief in the GOP, I don't believe there is any realistic possibility that Boehner will to end his political career in favor of doing what's right for the country.

@ The truth
Your argument also makes sense if we disregard reality. A REPUBLICAN controlled govt is responsible for the sun-setting legislation (and therefore responsible for the increase in taxes). And of course, the GOP is doing nothing to stop them so the public rightly is blaming them... not Obama.

Gr8Dane
Tremonton, UT

POTUS hard at work. In Hawaii. Not providing Leadership. Blaming GOP for lack of progress even as he goes for Shave Ice. If that was a Republican President.... (you fill in the blanks).

Fred44
Salt Lake City, Utah

Time for a reality check. The President and Mr.Boehner got very close again (remember summer of 2011) to another deal, but Boehner had his legs shot out from under him by his own party. Some of you say the tea party gang should hold out and do what they were elected to do. They were elected to govern not to obstruct just as all 535 members of congress were elected to do.

I don't get it, the majority of Americans are in favor of raising taxes on the 2%, the majority of Americans blame the republicans for the current mess and yet they proceed full speed ahead. Every respectable economists says that three things must happen, we must increase revenue, and make cuts to entitlements and defense. The house republicans have decided that we can only do one of those three, cut entitlements and unless the democrats agree with their position they will hold the country hostage.

America suffers while the republicans in the house play games with the economy. The republican definition of compromise is you do what I want you to do. How about we put America first.

Gr8Dane
Tremonton, UT

In response to Fred44's comments that its the "Republicans" playing games with the economy. I'm incredulous at this broadside criticism. Even as Rome is about to burn, Obama is safely in Hawaii, drinking egg nog, surfing, eating shave ice and living Aloha. Where is his leadership? He hasn't transitioned, ever, from being Campaigner-in-chief, to actually showing leadership. He knows the fawning and adoring media will cover for him, as they have for the last four years.

Don't believe the narrative foisted upon Americans by the largely corrupt and syncophant national media about Republicans being to blame. Republicans only control one Chamber of the Congress. Democrats control the Senate and the entire Executive Branch of government. ANd somehow, it's the Republicans fault? Give me one huge break, and wake up and smell the Kool Aid.

worf
Mcallen, TX

Let Obama have his way, and we'll live with the effects.

Seems, societies must suffer greatly before they come to their senses, and elect honorable leaders.

History repeats itself.

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