mohokat,Lets not let the truth get in the way of the republican
desire to go over the cliff and claim that it is the Presidents fault. Other
than the low information supporters on the far right, the rest of America knows
that the problem was Boehner couldn't get his hard liners to move one inch.
He and the President were very close to a compromise which with a couple of
additional meetings they could have reached. The problem was if he brought that
compromise back and put it up to a vote it would have passed the house primarily
because of overwhelming democratic support and a split republican vote. The
republicans in the house won't allow anything to come to a vote unless the
45-55 "chuckleheads" in the tea party sign off on it.The
House Republicans right now are allowing the 44-55 members of the tea party
bring this process to a halt. Hopefully after Christmas they will have enough
sense and patriotism to do the right thing for America.
Fred You are right Boehner tried to compromise and all he got from the King is
stonewall. The bottom line here is the King wants to go over the so called
cliff. He gets his tax increase, he gets to gut the defense dept., and then at
the end of the day he rides in on his white horse and proposes tax cuts for the
middle class. Pure BS and drama all for his political posturing. Typical.
mohokat,Really? Go back to the old standbys,class warfare> By
the way help me understand how when the wealthy got bigger tax cuts and that was
not class warfare but now asking them to pay a little bit more is class warfare?
You say Boehner caved, I say he acted like a statesmen and tried to compromise,
but his compromise is not relevant because the radical right drive us off the
cliff members of the house want approve a compromise. They won't even allow
Boehner to bring a compromise proposal up for a vote. Keep up the
good work house republicans, your support is diminishing not growing.
@FRED44 If King Brack wasn't so my way or the hiway the Reps might be more
inlined to compromise. matter of fact Boehner has caved more than I like. But
you have bought into the class warfare. Evil rich people. Like the man said I
never got a job from a poor man. Those taxed that will cause a contraction will
affect jobs. Could yours be one of them?
So Obama doesn't compromise, Harry Reid calls it quits for Christmas and
heads home, and doesn't offer a plan. But yet, libs and the press
criticize Boehner and GOP for failure?We live in a country with a
Corrupt National News Media who take their talking points from Obama and the
Democrats. Republicans who are each fiercely independent by nature, have a hard
time coming together anyway. But add the media corruption on top of that,
it's a very tough hill to climb.It won't be long until we
live in a One Party Nation. We learned nothing from Communism in the 20th
Century. ANd young people, thanks to the NEA and libs, know nothing about the
horrors of communism and tyranny.
mohokat,The republican mentality is an interesting one. They lose
the Presidency, they lose at least 11 seats in the house and 5 seats in the
senate, and yet they have a mandate in the house to keep the President in check?
The republicans say they shouldn't have to compromise on their principles
which means that apparently the democrats who won the White House and picked up
seats in both houses should compromise on their principles and agree with the
republicans. The upside is by the next Presidential election, the tea party and
the far right of the republican party will be gone from our world because more
and more Americans have had it with them. The downside is America may not last
till the next Presidential election. Lets hope that in 2014 we can eliminate
enough of the far right in the house and then congress may be able to do
something.Oh and by the way I don't think the democrats have
all the answers either but they at least concern themselves with more than
protecting the ultra wealthy.
It is interesting, if Obama wont budge it is the Republicans who wont
compromise. If the Republicans wont budge the Republicans wont compromise. It is
only compromise if the Republicans are the ones who dodge on their principals.
Obama did win but it is clearly not a mandate. The republicans won the House and
in doing so their obligation is to hold Obama in check. If there is a mandate
for one there is a mandate for the other. The whole thing is phony. And of
course Obama is the great unifier. He said he would and he has unified. Hah and
I hate to make jokes, because you cannot match the laughs the right have
generated the last few months. Pounding chests about the greatest election ever,
then getting one they don't like. Then spewing sour grapes over the fiscal
cliff holding assault weapons with 30 round clips. But fear not, Hannity and
Limbaugh have it figured out!
I just wished that we could wipe the slate clean and get rid of all of them back
there in Washington. To me no one is doing their job. If we lived in a perfect
world we would have people who would go back to Washington not to get paid for
doing their jobs but to do it without pay except for their living expenses. Then
we might see things happen. It is to bad that none us have those rights like
those who serve in the Government back there. They get so much when they no
longer are in office their health care is so much better than ours. It makes me
sick to my stomach to think of what they get and for doing what. It starts from
the very top with the President and goes on down to every single one of them
Twice as many Americans say they trust the president more in handling this
fiscal situation (38%) than House Speaker John Boehner and the congressional
Republicans (19%)," reports NBC/WSJ poll.The Republican Party
has a 30%.favorability ratingThe Democratic Party has a 44%
favorability rating.NBC also notes that "significant majorities
believe Obama holds a clear mandate from the election on issues related to this
subject:-- 68% say he has a mandate on cutting taxes for families
earning less than $250,000 per year;-- 65% say he has a mandate on
reducing the deficit by both increasing taxes on the wealthy and reducing
federal spending;-- And 59% say he has a mandate on eliminating the
Bush-era tax cuts for household income over $250,000 a year."
I am so tired of President Obama trying to compromise with the Tea Party
Republicans. They don't know the meaning of the word. He should just let
the sequester happen and then try to work with the new Congress to fix the
problems that result. These people will stand by their ridiculous ideology, no
matter how severe the consequences. They still want to worsen the
recession/depression, so they'll have another chance to run things (oops, I
mean ruin things) in 2014 and 2016.
VST,Actually it is a no win situation for America. In terms of
congress, it doesn't matter, Americans continue to vote these fools back in
office, and they continue to play their silly little games. I heard
Representative Chaffetz on the radio the other day talking about the need to
hold people accountable for the security problems in Libya. He spoke of the
need to fire those who had failed to do their jobs and provide adequate
protection to the embassy and its staff.I wish the good
representative would apply that same logic to congress. If you should be fired
for not doing your job, their should be 535 openings on January 1st.
"...I triple-dog dare you...".John Boehner's adaptation
of the negotiation ploy made famous in A Christmas Story.
Plan B includes:Cuts to food stamps that could knock millions of
low-income Americans out of the program;– Cuts to Meals on
Wheels, a program that delivers meals to seniors or other individuals who are
unable to prepare their own food;– Cuts funding to health
exchanges that will be created under Obamacare and funding for Medicaid included
in the same law;– Cuts to the Dodd-Frank financial reform law
that will yield no cost savings, but will make bailouts of big banks more
likely;– Denying the Child Tax Credit to the parents of
Fifty-three percent of people, including 22 percent of Republicans, said the
GOP's views and policies have pushed them beyond the mainstream. The number
is up dramatically from previous years. In 2010, fewer than 40 percent thought
the party was too extreme.Democrats were considered to be a
"generally mainstream" party by 57 percent in the new CNN poll.
It is not up to Obama to tell the House how to write laws. Harry Reid can
"sidetrack" anything that he wants, but that does not solve the
problem.Obama wants things to crash. He wants the
"Reichstag" to burn. He's not at all concerned about the people of
this nation or our nation's credit. He's only concerned about his own
interests. He, like, those before him who manipulate "crises", use
every opportunity to disrupt and to destroy. He's in full form. He will
do anything to hurt the country that he swore an oath to protect. He refuses to
admit that raising taxes will not solve the problem. He refuses to admit that
the additional revenue will only fund his spending for less than a month. He
believes that Americans are so ignorant that they will blame the House, instead
of putting the blame where it belongs, right at his feet.
TIME TO VOTE THE TEA-PARTY OUT!Throw these bums out!Americans clearly want the tax rates to rise on the rich and yet these bums
refuse to perform the will of the American people.Democracy cannot
function if our elected officials do not perform what they were elected to do.
Get rid of the Tea Party wack jobs!
Yeee-Haw!Rather than compromising and finding middle ground and a
REAL solution, The GOP decides to go for broke.All-or-NothingThe double over-time Hail-Mary-pass of
despairation.I'm SOooooo looking forward to the 2014 elections
and cleaning the House!
Way to go GOP. You can't get anything done. Worst Congress ever!!