Published: Wednesday, Dec. 19 2012 12:00 a.m. MST
The American gun culture in the last few years has been to buy more guns and
ammo because they are preparing to fight the government. These are
the supposed mentally stable of the gun aficionados so when you throw in a
little mental instability what did you expect to get?
@ Screwdriver. I need guns because there are people in America who do not obey
our laws against murder, rape, robbery nor they obey any future laws banning
guns. A gun in my hand is better than a cop on the phone for me and my family!
The government can not, will not protect you either! I hope this helps you!
Blaming guns for crimes is about as logical and blaming spoons for obesity.
Dr. Oman,One point of correction. Fully automatic weapons are not
easily purchased and were not part of the recent tragedy.Fully
automatic means pull the trigger and the weapon keeps firing until there is no
more ammunition. Semi-automatic means pull the trigger and the weapon fires
once and reloads itself.
Google "Assault Weapons: Evil Black Rifles (or perhaps not)" to find out
virtually everything the prof thinks he knows about guns is wrong. And yet HE
thinks he is qualified to tell others how to run their lives. This is the type
of "common sense" that those with no sense seem to want to influence the
First of all, let me explain my political views. I classify myself as an
independent. I have more liberal views than conservative views. However, I am a
staunch defender of the second amendment. Just yesterday I read a headline in
one of the liberal outlets. It read, Obama faces obstacle to gun control. The
article did not mention it but the main obstacle is the constitution. I am
getting a little tired of politicians ignoring the constitution.The fact
is that we already have laws prohibiting criminals from buying guns legally. Gun
shows have to follow those same laws. Private citizens do not have to follow
those laws. And I, for one, do not need the government intruding more on private
citizens.I shed tears for the children in Conn. It was an awful thing.
Guns were the least of the issues involved in this. Divorce, mental illness
violent video games all played a more significant role.
The only arguement I have with this op-ed is that you can't buy a fully
automatic rifle at a gun show unless you have the proper Federal Class III gun
license. Or anywhere else for that matter.
I was sickened and infuriated again last night as I watched an interview with a
teacher at the Sandy Hook school. She said she huddled with her class and just
listened to the spaced and steady "pops" continue for 20 minutes or
more. There is no way it took 20 minutes to get a cop to the school! When did
the first responders arrive? No one wants to criticize the police response but
what were they doing? Crouched outside the doors till the shooting stopped like
they did at Columbine? “Instead of going into the school and searching
for Harris and Klebold, they set up a perimeter and waited "for the assault
to end." William Erickson, chairman of the Columbine Review Commission. If
only there had been an armed teacher at Sandy Hook I think at least some lives
would have been saved. In Israel every teacher is armed. They would not have
sat and listened to children being murdered for 20 minutes.
I wonder what Nancy Lanza would be saying today about her hobby (and introducing
Adam to it) if she had not been the first victim. Utah ranks #8
nationally for most suicides and #21 (highest-lowest) for number of deaths per
100,000 by firearms. Researchers at the Harvard School of Public
Health found that suicide rates among children, women and men of all ages are
higher in states where more households have guns. They controlled for measures
of poverty, urbanization, unemployment, drug and alcohol dependence and abuse,
and mental illness. The study appeared in the April 2007 issue of The Journal of
Trauma. Among persons less than 30 years old, suicide is one of the top three
causes of death.More than 90% of all suicidal acts by firearm are
fatal. By comparison, individuals who use drugs to attempt suicide, which
constitute 75% of all attempts, die in the attempt less than 3% of the time.
re:CommontwitConservative Justice Scalia wrote the majority opinion in
Heller v DC:"The Second Amendment right is not unlimited. We do not
cast doubt on concealed-weapons prohibitions...Also, the sorts of weapons
protected are the sorts of small arms that were lawfully possessed at home at
the time of the Second Amendment’s ratification, not those most useful in
military service today, so “M-16 rifles and the like” may be
banned." The Gun Control Act of 1968 requires anyone engaged in
the business of selling guns to have a Federal Firearms License (FFL) and keep a
record of their sales. However, this law does not cover all gun sellers. If a
supplier is selling from his or her private collection and the principal
objective is not to make a profit, the seller is not "engaged in the
business" and is not required to have a license. Because they are
unlicensed, these sellers are not required to keep records of sales and are not
required to perform background checks on potential buyers. Prohibited purchasers
can avoid required background checks by seeking out these unlicensed sellers at
The author paints American gun owners as "frightening and dangerous". At
first, he avers that this is a perception by non-gun owners. But afterward, he
states it as given.As to the NRA, it is not a radical organization,
unless one believes that the adamant protection of a fundamental right that many
wish to eviscerate is "radical".The plain fact is that
keeping and bearing arms is a constituttionally-protected natural right.Heller held that the people have an individual fundamental right to keep
and bear arms for lawful purposes not dependent upon militia service, that
holding has been incorporated to the states, and Justice Scalia (in the Heller
holding) clarified what the U.S. v. Miller (1939) decision actually said (small
arms "in common use" that "bear[s] some reasonable relationship to
the preservation or efficiency of a well-regulated militia" enjoy
constitutional protection).So let's just stop all the nonsense.
The current media hype and statist pronouncments of the administration do not
alter the truth.
Quite discouraging that gun owners' response to the shooting of children is
"Nothing we can do about it. That's the way life is. Accept it."
ban all guns and all alcohol!! No more gun related deaths and no more alcohol
related deaths. Right?? Just ask Bob Costus. Yes prohibition worked really well
after all we wouldn't have moon - shiners today were it not for
prohibition! For heaven sake look at Chicago for a wonderful success story of
gun banning. Violent gun crime has all but disappeared in Chicago now...right?
And those silly folks in Switzerland who thought they could reduce violent crime
just by arming and training their citizens. How dumb is that. Liberals are so
smart. As a side note the day after the Connecticut shooting I
signed up for NRA membership and bought a .40cal semi-auto. My wife and I are
now set to take concealed weapon training. I sure hope I can restrain myself
from shooting up a Wallmart after I get my gun and permit after all it's
the gun that kills not the person. Right?
Re: "Let's make it more difficult for the bad guys to get guns."If that's what we were talking about, most gun nuts would be right
there beside you.Unfortunately, that's not liberals' real
aim.The writer admits as much when he says, "I am not talking .
. . about laws banning . . . handguns. I am talking about . . . mak[ing] it
harder for the bad guys to buy large-magazine, semi-automatic assault weapons at
gun shows."He then goes on to note, however, "I honestly
don't know if such laws would have prevented the killings in
Connecticut."They certainly would NOT. The size or shape of the
gun reduces the evil not a whit.But, it WOULD bring us closer to the
ultimate liberal goal of banning guns.We can NEVER trust liberals to
say what they actually mean. This is just the latest in a series of disingenuous
liberal nostrums intended to lull those they consider ignorant hayseeds into
accepting an innocent-sounding, absolutely worthless, incremental step toward
their ultimate goal.Now's the time to stop them.
patriot said:As a side note the day after the Connecticut shooting I
signed up for NRA membership and bought a .40cal semi-auto.Can you say
knee jerk reaction? of course not. "I sure hope I can
restrain myself from shooting up a Wallmart after I get my gun and permit after
all it's the gun that kills not the person. Right? "No
it's the person who sells the gun remember what you've been saying for
months about the fast and the furious, and how Obama Killed a Border patrol
Agent, probably not as your completely inconsistant.Fear and Paranoid
people rushing out to buy yet more guns. Really pretty sad as moderate pointed
Re: "Quite discouraging that gun owners' response to the shooting of
children is 'Nothing we can do about it. That's the way life is.
Accept it.'"No gun owner I know suggests that.On the other hand, ALL liberal "response" to this tragedy indeed, DOES
amount to a suggestion we accept insufferable violence as the new normal.Literally NOTHING they are suggesting will make our kids the slightest
bit safer.The only measures that have a chance of actually
increasing safety involve training willing teachers and staff and permitting
them to carry the tools -- guns -- necessary to actually respond to crazies and
criminals. And, these measures, in addition to providing a meaningful response,
would also present a powerful deterrent to the cowards considering monstrous
evil.EVERY measure being suggested by liberals will have only one
effect -- increasing the size of the defenseless victim pool currently being
provided, by law, to the criminals/crazies.Discouraging, indeed.
When are we as a society, our politicians and our policy makers going to have
the courage and integrity to address the real questions at hand instead of just
treating symptoms. 1. Why do we have so many who do not honor and
uphold the rule of law ie it is only wrong if you get caught?2. Why
do so many have so little regard for human life? 3. Why are so many
of our children and young adults without a properly developed conscience and
empathy for their fellow men?4. Why do so many have a sense of
entitlement and a lack of respect for being as self reliant as possible? 5. Why do so many people have children and put less thought or
preparation into bringing a child into the world than they would getting a new
pet?6. Why do children and young adults value and seek notoriety and
15 minutes of fame (even if is evil) above being respected and respecting
others? It is time to treat the disease not the symptoms.
Good guys and bad guys aside, no gun control as a policy is insane.
@ Hutterite, We have all seen Obama's gun control policy, its called fast
and furious and it is very defiantly insane, including his executive order
Some of you talk like the 2nd amendment was written by God himself. It
wasn't, and it has clearly been made obsolete by time and technology. Even
the term "militia" is outdated. The 2nd amendment needs to repealed and
replaced with language to protect legitimate uses of guns by law abiding sane
citizens while giving Congress the power to reasonably prevent weapons designed
for military and police use from being sold and used by the general public.
Those that oppose this badly needed public reform will have innocent blood on
A gun is the manifestation of the designer's and manufacturer's intent
for it's use. So I can say a gun does kill and still be referring to
it's designed purpose and it's creators.After all, if a
loaded guns fall off a table and kills the owner who killed him? The gun of
course. In a court someone may sue the manufacturer for a faulty trigger design
in such a case.Buy all the guns you want. If your gun is used in a
crime because you didn't secure it you better hope I'm not on the
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