Mr. Boehner gets it but sadly his party doesn't. As the article says, he
can't even draw enough support in his own party to pass this attempt at
compromise. This is why we are in this mess to begin with. President Obama and
Mr. Boehner negotiated in good faith in the summer of 11 and got to a point
where neither one was very happy (probably a good place for America) and the tea
party shot him down. The far right is ok with restoring the 2% FICA tax because
that would hit the poor and middle class much harder, but would much rather see
us go over the cliff than raise any taxes on the wealthy.
Fred44,What got us in this mess is excessive spending.This country survive its first 150 years without federal income tax.All this country ever needed, was a ten percent tax on imports, and exports.
That's it, and just that simple.We've become a helpless
society,--dependent on government. Like a child to their parents.It's a shame.
Sounds like the Democratic Senate and Republican house aren't unwilling to
compromise, since the millionaire tax in Boehner's proposal isn't
enough for Dem's, and too much for the Rep's. Anonymous legislators
impeding progress on a deal...
Fred44,You must have missed the part in the article when Harry Reid said
that Boehner's plan would not pass the Senate and that he needs to go
through the white house. Beohner is compromising enough that even republicans
don't like it, but Harry Reid refuses to accept it. Boehner is calling the
Dems bluff and they are having a hard time with it.
Badger55: Of course Boehner's plan would not pass the Senate and Pres.
Obama's concessions won't satisfy the House which is unwilling to
raise taxes on anyone and so Harry Reid stands firm.The Democratic
Senate is just as stupid as the Republican House. Pres. Obama is willing to let
the tax cut expire on only those with taxable income above $ 400,000 and reduce
cost of living - BOTH are big compromises while Boehner is willing to let the
tax cut expire for those making over $ 1,000,000. Pres. Obama has
made more compromise than Boehner who needs to accept the $ 400,000 level with
reduction in cost of living raises for Social Security.Will the Utah
Tea Party Senators Hatch and Chaffetz support any agreement Boehner negotiates?
I cannot believe how so many Republicans in this state (the great majority of
whom make far less than $250k are so intent on "protecting" the
"poor" super rich from a tax increase and would rather have us all go
over the cliff and increase their own taxes by more than $2k per year. When will they wake up as smell the roses? Not until they see their spending
power reduced by $2k plus. Then they will have to ask themselves why
the guys they voted for who swore to work against higher taxes have all lined up
to butter up the super rich at the expense of those who earn less than $250k!Incredible!
What bother me is that they want to hurt seniors on Social Security. One of the
proposals is to revamp the cost of living increase for Social Security and make
it a lot less. This would put many seniors in a much worse situation than they
are right now because the prices of things keep going up, but Social Security
recipients will not have enough money to keep up with it. Many seniors are
already poor and can't afford food and medicine at the same time. To cut
Social Security in any way would do damage to the old and the sick who
can't fight back. I don't know why they don't cut their own
raises and cost of living increases and give up perks and lavish retirement
plans. Congress is a bloated money-sopping sponge who reaches out to grab what
it can from the weak, the needy and the poor. But when it comes to touching
their wealth and over-paid jobs, there is no way they would ever give up even a
sliver of it. Didn't they just give themselves a pay raise?
The problem in Washington is that both Democrats and Republican senators and
representatives sold their souls to the 1% in order to get elected. Until we
institute real election/campaign finance reform and throw out the lobbyists and
the power brokers, get rid of the PAC's and move toward government that
sees past it's next campaign the American people will continue to be
manipulated and decieved and the country will keep sinking into the hole we are
This has not just been confined to the Democrats but they have controlled the
front office and the Congress for most of the past 100 years so there is a lot
of responsibility on their party, which has been a party of spending. The
significant programs of the 1970s and 1990s were from the Democratic Presidents
and Congress. Republicans were involved in those processes. President Carter
stopped all federal and military pay raises during his tenure, which then
allowed President Reagan to significantly raise salaries once again with
inflation at 20 percent, was devastating for many, many, people. When interest
came down to 13 percent that was almost a miracle. People still bought homes
but that was when the price market in California went so high and kept on going
up that the market finally met it's fate in 2007 and 2008 with the
significant downfall.California can't afford all the taxes,
fees, and allowances for their government to run the main utilities along with
the social and welfare programs. Governors come and go but the legislature
there keeps on spending, corruption or not. That is a significant impact for
the whole United States of America. President Obama should learn.
JWB, your history recall is skewed to the right. The huge deficits we suffer
right now were caused by George Dubya's undeclared war against the mouse
that roared.He and his administration convinced the American people
that Husein had WMDs that never existed and gave us the feeling that we had won
some great battle against terrorism.Where is Dubya now?He's disappeared into obscurity, never to be heard from again. At least
that's a good thing.Our current economy is built on a false
sense of security that as the wealthy get even wealthier and the ones in need
carry them on their shoulders, that the country will be strong as safe.They talk about not passing debt on to the next generations, but they want all
they can get now for themselves.The last balanced budget was during
the Clinton administration and the Republicans have done more to put us in this
financial crisis than anything else.
yarrlydrab,I cannot believe how so many liberals in this country (the
great majority wouldn't know what to do with $250k if they made it) are so
intent on "soaking" the other guy. Even if we taxed them at 100%, it
would not cover our deficit because the financially illiterate dems running the
country don't know how to control spending.What is really
disconcerting is the "give me the money" dems don't realize the
government is NOT the source of the wealthy's money. They act like it
belongs to the government in the first place and the wealthy are evil because
they hold onto it.Those who take take take take take without putting
anything in will NEVER be satisfied. When you effectively CUT spending (a
bucket with no bottom will never be filled no matter how much water you throw
in) and INCREASE the percentage of people actually paying INCOME tax (47%
don't) so more people actually have their OWN skin in the game, THEN come
and talk to me about increasing the rates on those who are already paying 80-90%
of total personal income taxes paid!
The Mouse the Roared is fictional as many of the Democratic philosophies in a
dream land. This President came to power with class warfare
mentality and has pulled in his Chicago type of liberals that have built their
whole city political system in the past 140 years on that type of philosophy,
unions against employers.He is trying to surface that type of
feeling today after the Unions basically used their tactics with the Department
of Labor as the government muscle man to force companies overseas due to
regulations that were unprofitable. Those OSHA and EPA regulations are still a
significant impact due to the Union and environmentalist input and with this
administration his voting block, not by party but by beliefs and
philosophies.The Supreme Court decision was such a large part of the
Union's thrust this past election and was an unknown thought 4 years
earlier. The Democrats were able to use that decision as an impetus for them
through advertising that it would be perilous for common folk as the Republicans
would use all the corporate monies to thwart entitlements and programs.Everyone will find out who the demon really is as money is spent on programs.
Remember, there are people that are like wolves in sheep's clothing. Both
parties have leaders in them that give the appearance that they are for all
people but they both have agendas for themselves, not the country as a whole.
When you promise people the stars, that is fine. But how do you get to the stars
you were promised? You can't get from here to there, realistically,
pragmatically, financially, physically, physiologically, or do to ability. We have not pushed our elected officials on how they are going to do
what they promised. They get elected because their opponents and they are just
up for getting elected. They are actors on the stage of principles? We
don't judge people on principles anymore, we vote due to the campaigning
and advertisements. That relates to who has the most money to get their message
out. You end up voting for the person who is not the best but who
has the most dollars and backing of people with dollars.We are a
country at a time when principles don't count and prejudices looked at due
to an advertisement.People need basics in their life, not rhetoric.
Trying to educate imbeciles through posts on newspaper article is so asinine
that I should kick myself in the rear end for even trying.