Stories of heroism, help emerge amid questions of 'why?'
As the City of Newtown mourns, the NRA is hiding behind the 2nd Amendment.
Clutching their assault rifles as if they were a sick child. When will we
realize that guns are a big part of the problem? Don't me taken in my the
flawed logic in the statement, "Guns don't kill people - Guns kill
people." If this is logical to you, how about "Grenades don't kill
people - People kill people." Why can't we have grenades? Grenades
are weapons of war and mass destruction. What are assault rifles? If the
killing of 20 children isn't mass destruction - what is???
It's not a gun problem, it's a sick people problem. Your pithy remark
about the NRA is very clever, but surely you aren't so foolish as to
believe that taking guns from law abiding citizens is the answer. Utahans have
always been freedom loving people. Your remark makes me think that is changing.
vdubbin' taking assault weapons and semi-automatic weapons away from people
is absolutely what needs to be done. These weapons serve no purpose other than
what we all just saw in CT. Terribly tragic and deserves a civil dialogue not
deriding folks for their opinions.
I'm not deriding anyone any more than anyone else. But since you guys have
all the answers, I'll leave you to it. I sure miss my Utah of 20 years ago,
where individual accountability was preferable to governmental action...
We can thank the Democrats and liberals who have been on a campaign for 75 years
to destroy our society. There is no one problem or one easy solution. It is
many things. Destruction of the family, lack of moral teaching in the schools,
setting mental patients loose in our communities, lack of standards in movies,
TV, and video games, wholesale flood into our society of people who do not value
our national culture, destruction of our educational system, etc. The list
goes on. It is not this one incident, but the daily stream of foul images,
logic, and thought that we read about in I Timothy. We cannot purge positive
values from our society without dragging society into the cesspool of the third
world. I see no hope now. Our country has hopelessly lost its way and there
is no one to lead us out of the quagmire we are in.
People who choose to commit such heinous acts of violence will do so with
what's available. 9-11 is hardcore evidence of that. Don't
under-estimate the resourcefulness of the human mind. You say grenades kill
people, so why can't we have grenades? My question to you is what's
stopping you? The legalities involving gernade ownership don't deter
someone who could care less what the law says. Sure they're more difficult
to come by but not impossible. The truth is grenades (and guns, and pipe bombs
in a backpack) exist. Even if you could magically make them all disappear,
people would still commit heinous acts of violence because the problem lies in
the mind and soul. And it continues to happen because our society has lost the
warrior spirit. We stand by and watch as women are stabbed to death in the
street, or as men are beheaded in greyhound busses. We give notoriety to
criminals by making them infamous celebrities. We talk ourselves our of calling
the police when we hear our neighbor beating his wife because we don't want
to get involved. We make an easy target.
While something should definitely be done about assault weapons, I hear very
little about the continual diet of violence being fed into our childrens minds
via TV, Movies, Video Games and Music! We have created a culture that accepts
violent behavior on a daily basis, so why do we find it surprising that on to
many occasions, an individual decides to act out! There is much more to our
problem than Guns and unstable people.
People need not look far for the answer.Evil exists.Evil
must be confronted, and stopped. With kindness beforehand if possible, but with
force, even deadly force, when necessary.The salient fact is that we
need to control (and treat if possible) people who are mentally ill. No more
accepting the nonsense that "crazy people have rights too." When these
folks commit acts like this that confirms that we need to rethink the level of
mental illness that people can have and still be allowed to roam the streets or
live at home. We used to keep the crazy people locked up, and need to do that
again. Okay, it might "infringe on their rights" but how is
that any worse than the infringements already imposed, not to mention suggested
on the rights of law abiding citizens right to have guns.Center for
Disease Control studies prove that NO, repeat NO, type of gun law has ever
resulted in a decrease in violent crimes, so we really should not waste time
trying solutions proven not to work.
We had such an event in the UK at a small town in Scotland called Dunblane. Our
government took strong action, and introduced new legislation to curb the
ownership and storage of guns. Result? No more such attrocities in schools.
There has to be strict control placed on who can, and who cannot own
a gun. Anyone who wants a gun has to undertake stringent mental profiling, and
be tested regularly. Anyone who has a gun after not fulfilling such
requirements should be given an automatic jail sentence of many, many years.
To say, "It's people, not guns, that kill people," is a
nonsense. It's people WITH guns that kill people. Take away the guns, and
make the people caught with them serve long term punishment, and you will
dramatically reduce gun crime. You will never totally eradicate it, but you can
reduce it. The evidence is there to be seen in my own country.
Squirt should read the 2nd Amendment and the reason for it along with a history
of how the Constitution was ratified. Then you will understand the reason for
people to have something better than a flintlock to defend the Constitution
against execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel
Invasions. They were looking at an insurrection against the Constitution by
those out of power. We might be in an insurrection, corruption, or some other
word, of the Constitution by those within the halls of power and wanting to
become Kingmen. Don't take away the people's final means when all else
(other 9 of the Bill of Rights) fail.
I think that we have a lot to answer for in our society. How do we treat each
other? What do we do about the mentally ill? How do we help those who are
struck by tragedy to recover? What do we teach our children? How do we deal
with bullying How do we help those who are bullied to cope with that bullying
without the use of deadly force? How do we predict episodes like this one, if
it is even possible to do so? This list goes on...God bless everyone in their
I see a lot of people jumping on either one side or the other, take guns away
don't take guns away. Yet most people look past the real problem. Guns are
not the real problem, yes bad people can do a LOT of harm with guns, and in this
case a lot of harm was done that never should have been done. However as Wayne
Rout pointed out people look past the real problem. We have violence in our
music, on our TV's, in our movies, in our video games. Not the kind of
thing we had twenty years ago were a person was shot and they just fell down, no
we have to show blood spatter and glorify murder in our songs. If you really
want to save lives in the future parents start listening to the songs your
children listen to, both the radio version and the CD version. If you can not
understand it look the words up on line. When you learn what the words are put a
stop to them listening to it it is your house do not let it in. I will add more
on video games in another post.
Second post. On video games again parents this falls to YOU to stop the
violence. Do you understand the reason the games kids play today were they go
around killing people were originally created? In WWI our military trained on
round targets. They found that around 13% would freeze up the first time they
had to shoot at a person in combat. By WWII we started to use human silhouettes
as targets. They found this doped the rate down to about 3%. This was still to
high so over time simulations were developed that led to what is the modern
video games for the purpose of reducing even lower that reluctance to shoot a
human figure. So every time you let your children play the harmless games were
they go around killing people you are in fact doing the very harm that the game
was designed to do, make them less reluctant to pull the trigger. Rather than
jumping directly to taking the guns away from people lets look at some of the
REAL causes of the problems in our country and go to that first or it will be
something else used next.