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Published: Sunday, Dec. 16 2012 12:00 a.m. MST

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procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: "Every democracy needs a loyal opposition, and no one demands a Republican House majority that accedes to every wish of the White House."

Except that's what Democrats ARE demanding.

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

Well, if you dont believe that the election was a "mandate" (subjective) then how about recent polls that favor tax increases for the wealthy.

It was more than 2 to 1 in favor of that.

So, is the GOP more concerned about party ideology or the will of the people?

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

When 60% of the people yell at the top of their lungs that they can no longer afford Obama's bloated government, when 60% of the people tell us that they have no way to pay for his "free" programs, when 60% of the people jump on his class warfare wagon and demand that he pass the costs for his programs and policies on to someone else, then we know that America has lost it's way and that the "leader" has successfully turned us into a nation of crybabies who would rather rob someone else of their wealth than man up and pay for the programs that we DEMANDED from the Federal Government.

Two-year-olds think that they can have everything and that somebody else will pay. Adults should somehow be expected to associate cost with demands and they should be "adult" enough to pay for what they demand.

higv
Dietrich, ID

An election is not a mandate. Congress exists so the President does not have too much power. Marriage always has been between people of the opposite gender. So far in the United States the majority of states were it has been up to a vote voted to keep it that way. Some twice. Higher taxes on the wealthy mean they pass there higher cost onto the customer you and me.

Because of checks and balances an election is not a mandate and one man does not have too much power. Were that the case it would be total disaster. There are some ideas of a president that fortunatly do not need to come to fruition or it would be damaging to the Republic.

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

"Adults should somehow be expected to associate cost with demands and they should be "adult" enough to pay for what they demand."

Well Mike. Lets be consistent.

When "we" made a decision to go to war, we increase our costs. Adults should have been "adult" enough to pay for what they demand" (cuts elsewhere or increase taxes)

However, we decided to pass on the costs to the future generation.

Is that any different than what you are now complaining about?

Eric Samuelsen
Provo, UT

Wow, what a nice, sensible letter. I'm impressed, DN. Well done.

Thinkin\' Man
Rexburg, ID

The Republicans should do the will of those that elected them!

Hemlock
Salt Lake City, UT

A 50%+ win in the popular vote is not a mandate. If anything it is a call to move to the center. Mr. Obama's ambivalence in decrying the Chinese credit card used by Bush and then ignoring sovereign debt is troubling. He can no longer say, We won, get to the back of the bus.

J Thompson
SPRINGVILLE, UT

Maintaining and funding the military is an authorized duty of Congress, a duty that WE, THE PEOPLE have agreed to pay for. We have given Congress the duty to declare war and have agreed to pay for the costs imposed by that duty. IF Congress decided to pass the buck by not taxing YOU and ME for costs incurred with the Military then IT has abdicated its duty, but neither YOU nor anyone else can pass the buck and tell us that only the RICH GUY has an obligation to pay for the military.

Obama has no "mandate". He won the election by 9,000,000 FEWER votes than he received in 2008. That is not a mandate.

He has taken an oath to perform the duties of his office. That oath includes the promise to defend the Constitution. He cannot defend the Constitution by taking money from his arch-enemy, the fictional "rich guy", and excusing the rest of the citizens from their responsibility to do their duty to pay for the authorized duties of Congress.

JoeCapitalist2
Orem, UT

Tax and spend liberals (with the help of a bunch of Republicans) have successfully jacked up federal spending to the point that it is literally bankrupting the country. We spend twice as much as we did just a dozen years ago.

Next they have successfully convinced a majority of Americans that our current crisis is equally caused by a lack of tax revenues as it is by runaway spending and that the only acceptable solution is a "balanced approach" where even more taxes must be collected.

This is a big lie. Tax revenues are as high as ever. If federal spending was at the same levels as it was during Clinton's term, we would have big surpluses instead of record deficits. We must get spending under control, but Democrats are unwilling to budge on any meaningful spending cuts or entitlement reform.

Piling on even more taxes to those who produce (they already pay more than their fair share) will eventually kill the goose with the golden eggs.

one old man
Ogden, UT

It's going to be REALLY funny in four years to hear the anguished yowls of some folks when Hillary is elected as our next President.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

@Hemlock
Salt Lake City, UT
A 50%+ win in the popular vote is not a mandate.

[How can you say that with any sort of straight face or ounce integrity after GW Bush was selected and never elected? -- seriously?!

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@J Thompson
SPRINGVILLE, UT
Maintaining and funding the military is an authorized duty of Congress, a duty that WE, THE PEOPLE have agreed to pay for.

[I have no problem paying taxes to do so.
The problem is that YOU the far-right don't have any intention to pay for your messes.

The heart of the PROBLEM is Bush and the GOP started 2 wars, passed Medicare part D, never cut spending of any sort over 8 years, actually INCREASED it and refused to fund any of it, and then actually DECREASED the ability to do so.

At least show some integrity and be consistant with your rants.]

Speaking of 2 year olds Mike Richards --
...for complaining about Two-year-olds thinking...that somebody else will pay. Adults are expected to know costs ...and be "adult" enough to pay for what they demand.

I think it's about high-time the GOP to grows up.

DougS
Oakley, UT

Joe Blow, Obama lover... He did not win with a "mandate" If he had, he would have a democratically controlled house. l
Besides, 50% of the eligible voters didn't even vote.. Stop taking pot shots at the messenger if you don't agree with what he said...

Invisible Hand
Provo, UT

These calls for tax increases on only the wealthy ignore the real problem. It doesn't raise enough money to plug the hole in the budget and Democrats have NO plans for that. If they really wanted to fix the deficit by raising taxes then they should be honest and raise taxes on everyone. What they want is to pander to a majority that doesn't understand economics without solving any difficult problems.

the truth
Holladay, UT

If only the rich should pays taxes,

then shouldn't only the rich enjoy the privileges of membership?

And if you do not pay membership dues (taxes) what does this country owe you?

It's hilarious how the left pats each other on the back for making such ridiculous statements, and seem to embrace tyranny when it is their side.

There is no mandate,

this is representative republic governed by a constitution built on checks ans balances

and NOT a democracy.

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

"Joe Blow, Obama lover"

Sorry to disappoint, but no obama lover here.

But, not an Obama Hater, and thats what really ticks off many.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

Some posters tell us that they have no problem paying taxes and then tell Republicans that we are passing the buck. Doesn't their policy of NOT taxing the average person, but demanding those who already pay more than 80% of all government payments be taxed even more - so that they don't have to?

Just who is passing the buck? Who is ignoring their personal responsibility to equally and completely fund all government spending? Who is pretending that they don't have an obligation if they can find a "rich guy" to carry their cross for them?

America is the land of equal opportunity and of equal responsibility. Every citizen is responsible to pay for all government spending. Nothing in the Constitution allows one part of society to pass the buck to another segment of society.

60% of the people have held up their hands and said "Enough already!". They think that they've been taxed too much. They think that they can't pay anymore. The problem is that they think that others should pay for them.

Obama, enough is enough. We can't afford to pay for your programs.

Gildas
LOGAN, UT

What election mandate? The result was close at best and neither candidate had the support of a majority of the qualified voters. Then again there is some doubt as to the validity of some results. Thirdly, as a GOP matter, the local parties "cast out of their society" that "heretic" Ron Paul with at times highly questionable tactics.

My conclusion is that the integrity of the election is at least debateable, there is no clear consensus among the people and there are certainly no mandates of a partisan nature.

With such a situation there should be a more accommodating approach from the current administration, the Democrat presidency as well as the Republican House.

Both parties might consider following the Constitution of the Unites States and limit their scope of action to those constitutionally permissible. That would be a novelty!

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah
Some posters tell us that they have no problem paying taxes and then tell Republicans that we are passing the buck. Doesn't their policy of NOT taxing the average person, but demanding those who already pay more than 80% of all government payments be taxed even more - so that they don't have to?

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Mike --

When will you admit the EVERYONE pays taxes?
Even the transiet who begs for a $1 on the street ends up paying taxes, even for the cup of coffee he spends it on.

The issue of taxes going up is a GOP ruse.
and it's only on earnings, capital gains and closing loopholes the rest of the 99% don't get.

The taxes were and still are ALREADY at the higher rates for everybody,
The Bush tax reduction was passed only as a temporary measure,
so letting them lapse is not really a tax rate increase - but actually a returning to normal.

And
You still never addressed how YOU intend to pay for YOUR Bush Wars.

George
Bronx, NY

@mike richards
your right mike it is time for the top "earners to man up and stop demanding special treatment under the law. they need to pay the same tax rate I and the rest of the middle class pay.

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