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Published: Saturday, Dec. 15 2012 12:00 a.m. MST

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Kalindra
Salt Lake City, Utah

Name a recent/current frivolous lawsuit and explain what about that lawsuit makes it frivolous and how it could be handled with old-fashioned honesty and integrity instead.

Without a clear example, your letter is just a bunch of hyperbole.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

A quick perusal of the attorney section of the yellow pages almost begs people to slip and fall or somehow get 'injured'.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

Especially that law suit over the Affordable Care Act. The filin of that was a bad example and was very frivolous.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Like Tea-Partiers suing to secede from the union?
Like the GOP led state of Utah suing the Federal Government over the use of land?
Like suing over Mitt Romney loosing the election fair and square?

Henderson
Orem, UT

"Name a recent/current frivolous lawsuit and explain what about that lawsuit makes it frivolous and how it could be handled with old-fashioned honesty and integrity instead.

Without a clear example, your letter is just a bunch of hyperbole."

I can think of 2.

1. Utah suing the federal government over the ACA.
2. Utah using the federal government over federal lands.

Talk about frivolous lawsuits which only serve to waste our precious taxpayer money. Money which could be better used in education.

4601
Salt Lake City, UT

If you ever wondered about frivolous lawsuits, look at the maturity of the comments above and it will explain things.

Eric Samuelsen
Provo, UT

Uh, hiring an attorney to represent you in a civil matter does not suggest dishonesty or lack of integrity.

red state pride
Cottonwood Heights, UT

The Sierra Club, Trial Lawyers and Public Sector Unions are the backbone of the Democrat Party. You think Democrats want less regulation and less litigation? No way. That's their bread and butter.
@ one vote- are you kidding me? The States that participated won that lawsuit because the Supreme Court ruled that States do not have to expand Medicaid and thus bankrupt themselves by decree of the Federal Government. They also are not required to set up State health insurance exchanges. So of course that lawsuit wasn't frivolous- at leat not according to the Supreme Court.
I don't think people realize how close America is to dying from "regulatory sclerosis". The Obamacare legislation is not about healthcare. It's just about more regulation, more bureaucratization, more paper-pushing. It's already driving healthcare costs up. And the lemmings just cheer it on.

Henderson
Orem, UT

"I don't think people realize how close America is to dying from "regulatory sclerosis". The Obamacare legislation is not about healthcare. It's just about more regulation, more bureaucratization, more paper-pushing. It's already driving healthcare costs up. And the lemmings just cheer it on."

If you hate Obamacare then you must have really hated the GOP's health care reform from the 90s. You must have really hated the Heritage Foundation and Orrin Hatch for creating Obamacare.

red state pride
Cottonwood Heights, UT

@Henderson- why do people on the left use that talking point like it's some kind of argument ender? Is my name Orrin Hatch? Am I bound by law to support every policy prescription issued by the Heritage Foundation. Unlike the "toe the party line " left I am capable of thinking for myself.
How many Republicans voted for Obamacare? Zero. The most sweeping piece of legislation in our history passed on a complete party line vote. DO you think that's healthy for our Republic?
And now 16 Democrat Senators who voted for Obamacare want one of the fund raising taxes (on medical devices) repealed because it will hurt manufacturers in their home states.
I don't like the idea of forcing young people who by and large do not need health insurance to purchase health insurance at prices with no actuarial relationship to their needs in order to subsidize premiums of the elderly, people with preexisting conditions etc. That defies the definition of "insurance". But, we're living in an upside down world so I guess it doesn't matter.

Screwdriver
Casa Grande, AZ

Most lawsuits are among businesses.

But sure, to a Dr everybody he makes a mistake on is a "frivolous" lawsuit. Of course if a plumber makes a mistake and floods his home it would be a "good" lawsuit. The plumber rationalizing his mistake with all the "good" he has done in the world world would be laughed at while Dr's actually believe they should be except from liability.

The difference between a good and frivolous lawsuit to conservatives is just what is in the conservatives best interest at that time.

Hint, there are not good and bad lawsuits. Only poor execution of justice due to money interests and politically bribed judges and pre-propagandized, partial juries.

Making a statement that there are too many "frivolous" lawsuits only shows your bias.

Screwdriver
Casa Grande, AZ

It's recently been estimated that only 1 in 7 medical mistakes are reported.

If you believe in accountability the only rational conclusion is that there aren't enough medical lawsuits.

Premise - there are too many medical lawsuits. Stop making so many mistakes.

Mick
Murray, Utah

Screwdriver-

Are you saying MD's need perfect? They continue to treat overweight, unhealthy people who don't listen to them, and when the patients don't get their desired outcomes they are sued. There is risk with any surgery and the more unhealthy you are the higher the risk. But patients all expect perfect outcomes, no matter how much they weigh or how long they have smoked. They need to prove that the MD had and intent to do wrong or overstepped their training. And the MD's don't just get sued, they send out the grenade to grab anyone attached to their case. Many of these law suits are thrown out because they are frivolous, but once reported they follow the MD for the next several years on their medical malpractice.
Because of this MD's are paranoid about law suits and end up ordering tests that are expensive that may or may not be needed. It increases our medical costs. All of our medical costs.

Henderson
Orem, UT

"How many Republicans voted for Obamacare? Zero. The most sweeping piece of legislation in our history passed on a complete party line vote. DO you think that's healthy for our Republic?"

I really don't care how many repubs didn't vote for Obamacare. We all know that they have cared more about being anti-whateverObama wants to make him a 1 term President than what is best for the President. If this wasn't the case then why have so many repubs voted against their own babies, Dream Act and Obamcare?

Why did deficits not matter for 8 years under Bush and then suddenly became important once Obama came into office?

It really doesn't matter though. The GOP is losing power. It's pretty obvious that they need to make changes if they hope to remain relevant.

Screwdriver
Casa Grande, AZ

I've actually seen a medical malpractice suit from the inside. If you haven't you have no idea.

You have to prove a Dr made a mistake without the helop pf local Dr's because they will be afraid of being outcast. You have to prove there was not deviation from standard care when THERE IS NO national standard of care. Even if you prove all that against all odds, you often face eight wing jurists that believe all the propaganda. it's incredibly hard.

Do you know ANYONE that has won a medical malpractice suit? Anyone? I know I don't, none of my family or friends do. Where are they if they are so common?

Mick
Murray, Utah

I have seen many malpractice cases. Many are settled before they get to court because attorneys just want their cut.
Most are frivolous and don't pass pre-lit panels. And you don't get local MD's to testify because they are frivolous, so the attorneys go out and find "for hire" MD's who testify for a living. (They make about 1,000 dollars an hour to testify)

That is my experience with malpractice cases from the inside.

Mick
Murray, Utah

By the way, there is a standard of care. But you can't apply a written set of rules to every patient and every medical problem isn't the same. Thank goodness for that. You have to prove that there was true mal(bad)practice or intent to harm or practicing beyond ones scope of practice. Not easy to do.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

Since the liberals here are unable to find examples of frivolous lawsuits, here are some examples. (The ACA and other cases they have mentioned are not frivolous, but are concerning the rights of US citizens.)

"Parent Sues School over Student's Poor Grade" in NPR

"Parents set to SUE school after their Ivy League-bound daughter was 'robbed' of being valedictorian" Daily Mail

"Years Later, Lawsuit Seeks to Recreate a Wedding" NY Times

"Man Sues Restaurant For Not Stopping Him From Eating An Entire Artichoke" The Consumerist

"Woman sues McDonald's over Happy Meals" CNN

Google the following cases, and see just how frivolous things get:

"Richard Overton Sues Budweiser" suing becuase he has Budwisers and no hot girls.

""Man Sues Magicians for Using His "Power" " can't steal that Magicians Powers

"Woman Sues Dead Man" a woman sues a dead man because his dismembered parts injured her

"Judge Sues Dry Cleaners For $67 Million" seems a bit extravagent for losing a pair of pants.

"Jesse Dimmick Sues Couple He Kidnapped"

"Kids Sue Mom for Not Loving Them Enough"

There are many more cases out there, but you get the idea.

SLC gal
Salt Lake City, UT

Redshirt - don't forget the "hot coffee" lawsuits - those are my favorites..

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

RedShirt you forgot the rest of the story...These lawsuits were thrown out.

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