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Published: Friday, Dec. 14 2012 12:00 a.m. MST

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SoCalChris
Riverside, CA

I'm pretty sure just about everyone who believes in God is praying today. We can pray AND talk about the issue.

We should act before the next Sandy Hook happens, the same way we acted after 9-11 when we armed pilots. Schools should have armed security and/or armed teachers.

I don't like it either. I miss the days when I could walk onto an airplane or into a courthouse without going through a metal detector but we've adapted for the times -- sadly.

20 murdered kids must never happen again.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

It was just reported on the news by the brother of the shooter that the shooter was Autistic or something similar. He first shot his dad then went to the school where his mom was a teacher. If it is true the man was Autistic there has to be better gun sale legislation to prevent the sale to irresponsible people who obviously should be no where near guns.

Screwdriver
Casa Grande, AZ

Obamacare includes mental health parity to take mental problems seriously again.

Nobody is going to take your guns! Stop being scared little people. When this happens and all you can think of is your guns you have a problem.

The police lean to the right and won't take your guns, the national guard leans right and won't take your guns. Army - nope. AirForce -no way. Navy nope, Marines - are not going to take your guns. Liberals can't do it - we are the ones without so many guns. Obama obviously can't take your guns by himself.

Your fears are irrational and are fanning more irrational fear. Stop it!

Shaun
Sandy, UT

This is a truly a sad day and people are arguing about gun control and the second amendment. It is always easy to say if a teacher had a gun that this would of never happened or less kids would have been murdered.

Instead lets focus on the children that were murdered senselessly by a coward.

Steve C. Warren
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

Some supposedly thoughtful people will say we shouldn't enact gun controls in the heat of the moment. Consider this: A mother and father, after learning that their child died in a car crash and was not wearing a seat belt, both decide silently in the heat of the moment that they and their other children will never fail to buckle up. Maybe the heat of the moment can be a good time to make decisions.

I'll tell you this. If we wait, in a few weeks another multiple shooting will occur, and the pro-gun crowd will say, "Let's not enact gun controls in the heat of the moment." And, as usual, nothing gets done.

annewandering
oakley, idaho

On facebook there is a post going the rounds. Paraphrased it says 'If your first thought on hearing of the shooting was that the blankety blank liberals were going after your guns, your priorities stink".
Its time to grieve and start thinking of ways to prevent this happening again, not hiding your guns.

Eliot
Santaquin, UT

There are laws prohibiting the sale of firearms to people who lack mental capacity. Yet, there is much that we do not know about this incident, such as where he got the guns and what was his mental capacity. Did he buy the guns? Did he steal them? Did he obtain them illegally? Until we know more facts about the case, so much of what is being said appears to be speculation.

Gramajane
OAKLEY, ID

Some kill others with water, (in bathtubs,) some with gasoline and matches, some with baseball bats, some with explosives- even bombs, some with cars, some with poisons--I think a teaspoon can be a weapon, and bare hands, or a pillow or the very rocks on the ground . 
--- with some of the above, usually it isn't mass killing- but some do. 
---- Isn't the challenge to teach correct principles raising children in loving homes - where they are taught to respect life and are not exposed to games or movies of violent killing as acceptable? 

one old man
Ogden, UT

May I suggest that the NRA has been perhaps the greatest reason why no meaningful, sensible gun measures have even been considered in this nation?

There are sensible solutions out there -- you say you support finding them. But until the paranoia and insane fear-mongering from people like Wayne LaPierre can be overcome, not much is likely to happen.

Some of the posts here reflect that madness. What is becoming of America? We spend money on violent entertainment, we argue with one another endlessly. Why?

boxerdog915
Clearfield, UT

@atl134 and all others who want guns to disappear from society...

“Guns are used 2.5 million times a year in self-defense. Law-abiding citizens use guns to defend themselves against criminals as many as 2.5 million times every year—or about 6,850 times a day. This means that each year, firearms are used more than 80 times more often to protect the lives of honest citizens than to take lives.”

“As many as 200,000 women use a gun every year to defend themselves against sexual abuse”

“Handguns are the weapon of choice for self-defense. Citizens use handguns to protect themselves over 1.9 million times a year.”

More info can be found at http://gunowners.org/fs0404.htm

So, I wish someone would explain to me why these statistics are ignored. Seems to me guns are used more for good than for bad and gun control activists want to take that away??

On the other hand
Riverdale, MD

@cjb and others, the knife-wielding man in China injured 22 children and one adult but killed no one.

There are two reasons why the debate focuses on guns: because, as Lagomorph's statistics demonstrate, guns are a murderer's weapon of choice, and because guns can be used as murder weapons with less effort and less risk to self than knives, clubs, cars, bombs, swimming pools, etc.

I'm not opposed to sensible, sane people owning guns, but I'm scared to death of mentally ill people with guns. We need to help these people and heal them to the extent possible, but we need to keep guns out of their hands.

Steve C. Warren
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

Women are the key to changing America's gun culture. When a young single woman learns that a single guy owns a firearm, she needs to tell him that she thinks guys who feel more secure with a gun are, in effect, girly men (which is often the case).

Wives need to tell their husbands to get rid of their guns because having a gun around the house dramatically increases the chance that someone in the family will be shot or killed.

mark
Salt Lake City, UT

"Yesterday, 22 in china, at an elementary were attacked with a knife."

Yes, jsf, and not one of those children died.

Baccus0902
Leesburg, VA

DN: This my revised comment. I hope this one doesn't hurt your sensibility.

@BYR 1:46

You wrote: Can we NOT have a gun control debate attached to this article?
NO! , we should debate this, if not now, when?

You wrote: Good heavens, 27 people are dead, 18 of them children.

Exactly! That is why we need to talk and debate this issue. Or you just pretend to mourn them for a few hours and then go back to our normal lives?

We can find crazy people all over the world. THe difference is that our crazies have access to guns.

As long as the NRA continue oppossing gun control laws and our politicians continue being who they are, we will continue having tragedies like this one.

merich39
Salt Lake City, UT

It's a shame the NRA has spent so much money making it so easy for the mentally unstable to obtain guns. One more public massacre sponsored by the NRA. And, predictably, their response will be that this is a result of too few guns in the hands of the untrained, untested, completely unregulated public. It's a shame.

It is way past time to discuss reasonable gun access controls. Way past time.

mohokat
Ogden, UT

Tragic at the best. My heart goes out to those personally affected. Now hear this the anti gunners are going to be out now especially with who we are saddled with as President. Those that love the 2nd amendment better get ready communism is on its way. Remember 9/11/01 over 3000 people were killed with airplanes. Ban those evil airplanes!!!!

Screwdriver
Casa Grande, AZ

We need to be talking about mental health care.

It's just not working to have people that are unstable and just give them a bottle of meds and trust that they will take thier meds all by themselves. THEY"RE UNSTABLE!

And trust me, ask a Dr, most of us can't be trusted to take our diabetes neds or high blood pressure meds reliably. Why trust people that could be a danger to society?

This is not a gun issue. We have 600,000,000 plus guns in the country , more than 2 per capita- we can't undo that. This is a mental health issue. A mental health issue that includes a lot of gun nuts that honestly first think of thier guns to solve our problems. Seek help, please.

Mick
Murray, Utah

at134-

There are several great examples of why we don't make knee jerk reations. One is 9/11. We were mad and upset. More than 90 senators voted to go to war with Iraq. It was a clear majority with the senate vote. George Bush declared war. We went to war. And all the left has done since is complain about it and condem the action. No one ever mentions the majority vote in the senate.
It is very political to jump on this bandwagon to try an "easy fix" when the real reason is the moral breakdown of society. It is not popular to tell society they have decreased morals, that fathers need to stay in the homes and be fathers, and there is too much violence in hollywood and video games (among many other societal breakdowns). That is where the discussion and fix needs to start.

mark
Salt Lake City, UT

"Guns are used 2.5 million times a year in self-defense. Law-abiding citizens use guns to defend themselves against criminals as many as 2.5 million times every year"

Boxerdog, you are citing a study by Gary Kleck that has been widely used by pro gun groups. It has also been thoroughly debunked as using extremely unsound methodology.

It is just as bogus as the claim that more people are killed by bats then guns.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@boxerdog915
"@atl134 and all others who want guns to disappear from society..."

Uh... I don't want that, very few people do. Wanting things like mandatory gun safety courses and limits on high-capacity clips does not make guns disappear from society.

"So, I wish someone would explain to me why these statistics are ignored."

I would like to know why your so-called stats should even be considered real at all.

@patriot
Very few progressives want to ban all guns. We just want tighter gun control laws. Doesn't require a ban on them.

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