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Published: Friday, Dec. 14 2012 12:00 a.m. MST

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A Scientist
Provo, UT

I cannot focus my mind sufficiently to articulate any arguments one way or another about gun control. My heart is broken over the murders of these precious, innocent children and teachers. If I was not experiencing such disabling shock, I would worry about my sense of morality.

So tragic. So unbelievable. I can hardly bear it.

BYR
Woods Cross, UT

Can we NOT have a gun control debate attached to this article? Good heavens, 27 people are dead, 18 of them children. (yes, I know, some will debate gun control anyway, with only a passing remark on the tragedy.)

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

This is the worst of all nightmares of any parent and for that matter any adult employee. I don't ever remember this sort of thing happening when I grew up yet today it is becoming commonplace. The complete DE-sensitivity toward respect for human life in our society is appalling. This is something akin to the actions of the SS in Nazi Germany. I watch TV and what do I see - violent video games advertised and sold as top sellers in the age group 14 and above. Go to the internet and malls and you see these games everywhere - killing killing and more killing. There is no history we can look to and learn from regarding these violent games - I think we are learning on the fly unfortunately. No one knows if this evil nut job was influenced by video games or not but certainly there is a BIG issue in our society that is getting worse regarding the respect for human life and glorifying killing is something that should be legislated out of our society. Wicked world.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@BYR
"Can we NOT have a gun control debate attached to this article"

I'm fine with that, if someone can answer this one question... after every tragedy we're told this isn't the time to have a gun control debate. When I'm told that we should wait to have that debate, is that intended to suggest there actually is a time in the future when we can have this debate (and if so when would that be), or is it just a way to never have the debate since people get killed every day somewhere?

worf
Mcallen, TX

Violence rises, as economy declines.

Coping with the stresses of surviving is difficult.

Mark B
Eureka, CA

Thanks to Lagomorph for providing something other than cliches. Surely, there are many ways to kill or injure someone, but the weapon of choice is guns.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

re:Ford DeTreese

Switzerland has mandatory gun training and ownership and violent crime is the lowest ever reported in that particular country since this policy was started. Chicago has virtually banned guns and it's violent crime rate is the highest in its history since that policy was enacted.

Also - as I recall Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend were NOT killed by a gun owning OJ either. A knife will do the job just as quickly and easily. For that matter someone intent on killing can build a bomb (follow instructions on the internet) that will take out an entire class room or movie theater or work place. The Oklahoma City bombing taught us that sad lesson.

citizens of this country have the right to protect themselves from evil people intent on killing and banning guns won't stop the desire to kill innocent people.

no fit in SG
St.George, Utah

Worf...
Best that your politics be silenced for a time.

FT
salt lake city, UT

Good thoughts and prayers for the victim. As far as the gun control discussion goes, the debate was over years ago. The NRA and its advocates won that argument using fear. There are only two types of gun owners, sportsman and cowards.

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

Guns don't kill people. Insane people who should never have access to guns in the first place kill people.
With guns.
It's time for gun control. Get over it, it's time.

DEW Cougars
Sandy, UT

How Awfull to happen like this. Why, what is wrong in this nation and eveywhere? Now I wondered my wife know any family members might be the victim in CT. This is sickening. So sorry for little ones that they don't deserved. This is sad.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

re:patriot
"Chicago has virtually banned guns and it's violent crime rate is the highest in its history since that policy was enacted."

On June 28, 2010, in the case of McDonald v. Chicago, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled the handgun bans of Chicago and Oak Park to be unconstitutional.

Homicides in Chicago are up by 38 percent from a year ago, and shootings have increased as well, even as killings have held steady or dropped in New York, Los Angeles and some other cities. As of June 17, 240 people had been killed here this year, mostly in shootings, 66 more deaths than occurred in the same period in 2011.

Millsap fan
Taylorsville, UT

We cannot blame guns, we cannot outlaw guns, otherwise this ceases to be America. I do however believe that the obtaining of guns should be stricter, somehow there needs to be access to medical and psychiatric records before one obtains a gun. If a person owns a gun, EVERYTHING should convince the seller that the buyer is mentally responsible.

starthillnotnelson
Kamas/United States, UT

It really does not matter about statistics or how guns are prohibited. This is tragic. This is the most foolish and idiotic decision really to ever be decided. I see no reason on taking anger out on such young, innocent little children

one old man
Ogden, UT

It won't surprise me in the least if, the next time we have another mass shooting in Utah, the shooter turns out to be one of the government hating, Obama hating people who so frequently post hateful rants about gun control in places like this.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

re:atl134

the reason that people don't want to start a discussion of gun control alt134 is because it won't BE a discussion at all - it will be to revoke the second amendment outright! The radical progressive left have clearly stated many times all guns should be banned and that is their goal. These people want no part of a rational discussion and sensible gun law legislation - which I support by the way. You can lump Barack Obama into the anti-second amendment crowd as well. I personally think each state should pass it's own gun laws and keep the federal government out of it altogether. What might make sense in New York makes zero sense in Utah or Wyoming.

jsf
Centerville, UT

Ford DeTreese, Lagomorph

Lest you be tempted to think school shooting are just recent see DN article about history of school shootings in U.S. Lest you think gun elimination and extreme gun control will stop such actions see these in some of the strictest gun control countries
Canada, October 10, 1902, May 28 1975, October 27 1975, October 1978, December 6 1989, August 24 1992, April 28 1999, September 13 2006, May 23 2007, September 16 2008, September 30 2010.

Germany June 20 1913, Sweden March 4 1961, Germany June 11 1964, Germany June 3 1983, Finland January 24 1989 Denmark April 5 1994, United Kingdom March 13 1996 March 13, 1996, Netherlands December 7 1999, Germany April 26 2002, Germany July 32003, Netherlands January 2004 Russia September 1 2004, Germany March 7 2005, Germany November 20 2006, Finland November 7 2007, Finland September 23 2008, Germany March 11 2009, Greece April 10 2009, Norway April 28 2009, Hungary November 26 2009, France March 19 2012, Italy May 19 2012

Israel May 15, 1974, Yemen March 30, 1997, Philippines February 19, 1999, Australia August 3, 1999, Australia October 21, 2002, Australia, October 21, 2002, Thailand June 6, 2003, Argentina September 28, 2004, Lefanon January 25, 2007, India December 12, 2007, Israel March 6, 2008, Azerbaijan April 30, 2009, Brazil April 7, 2011, Australia May 11, 2012

Truth Machine
Salt Lake City, UT

Guns are NOT the problem folks!

Drugs have been outlawed for decades. Murder has been outlawed for centuries.

Yet,

Millions of people are drug addicts.

And thousands of people are murdered every year.

The old saying that "when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns" is absolutely true.

Criminals will always find ways to get guns, no matter how many laws are passed to outlaw guns.

The only way to prevent this type of senseless violence is to identify and solve the root problems that motivate people to commit such heinous acts.

Schwa
South Jordan, UT

It should not be easier to buy a Glock than it is to buy Xanax.

cjb
Bountiful, UT

I just read in China a man broke into a school, and using a KNIFE killed many children and teachers.

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