Two For Flinching:"What do you think Utah and BYU's record
be if they switched schedules?"Phil Steele just recently
released his 2012 Final SOS ratings. Utah's was #40. The Y's was
#76. With a #76 SOS, the cougars could only muster 7-wins. The Y also LOST to
the Utes; demonstrating they're not yet up to our level. In addition, vs.
common opponents, the beat Wash. St. by fewer points, and lost to Ore. St. by
more. Essentially, their only advantage was a flukey 3-pt win at LES vs.
USU.And YES, it WAS flukish. Just look at their common opponents
vs. Utah St...They went 2-2 vs. Utah, SJSU, Idaho, and NMSU, whereas
USU went 4-0. USU also outscored those opponents by 99-pts, whereas the Y
outscored them by 66. Edge: USU. So if a 7-5 record is all they
could muster vs. a schedule nearly twice as easy as the U's, and they
couldn't beat the U, and apart from one flukish win over State,
couldn't perform at their big brother's level, it stands to reason
that had they played Utah's schedule, they'd have won no more than 4.
@ DownUnderNo, I feel fine actually, but thanks for asking. Get over
myself? What in the world is that supposed to mean? Utah doesn't need BYU,
or vice versa. I guess I'd be bitter too, if I live in Pulman. LOL
@DuckhunterIt was you that said "overwhelmingly so". I never
said that in regard to any sport. I'd simply say Utah has the upper hand in
football right now just as BYU has the upper hand in basketball ... neither is
overwhelming.But I'm with you 100% in almost all other sports, this
is exactly why the U is now building new facilities and doing all they can to
get those sports up and competing at a better level. Let's be honest, the U
never had the funding that BYU had to dump into these other programs ... until
now. So while it's going to be an uphill battle competing in the Pac-12, I
believe we'll see Utah faring very well against the rest of the country in
these other sports in the not so distant future.
@ Down UnderWhat do you think Utah and BYU's record be if they
Spokane Ute,Feeling a little bitter today? Get over yourself. BYU does
not need Utah. They prefer Notre Dame and the likes. Ejnoy the bowl season.
BYU has been down for a couple of years but still get a bowl. Utah is supposed
to be this great PAC 10.2 powerhouse and yet they sit at home. HUH! What is
Utah's powerhouse Sagarin rating? I can't hear you!!
Qwest Rejected"In the modern BCS era Utah has built a good name
for themselves..."... and tarnished and sullied it in two
miserable seasons of 'big boy' football.1) Losing to
Colorado and 4-5 in their conference debut.2) Losing to a WAC team (USU)
and going 3-6 in their conference. (from an arrogant BCS conference Ute point of
view)And now the Ute arrogance continues even in their first
non-post season in years. "The (Ute) beatings will continue
until morale (and humility) improves."Congrats to the USU Aggies
(THE WAC team) for their great season and winning the Idaho Famous Potato Bowl
Thought Michigan replaced BYU?As to all the BYU whiners. I prefer a
good Malbec. Could you all whine more like an Argentinian? And can someone
please pass the cheese and crackers.
@duckhunterI didn't realize we were now talking about all
athletic teams between the two schools now. Kind of a lame comparison since
there are a handful of sports that Utah doesn't participate in like
men's volleyball and soccer but if that makes you feel better about school
I guess go with it.I do find it ironic that you don't like to
talk about certain programs body of work. For example, in the last seven years
of byu's dominance in men's basketball, they only have what 4 NCAA
tournament victories? That is nothing to brag about. You also talk about the
football teams 10 win seasons and top 25 finishes. Again when you look closer
and realize that a number of those wins are against pathetic teams its just not
that impressive. The cougs do have a national championship, but 1984 was a very
long time ago in the world of college football. In the modern BCS
era Utah has built a good name for themselves and the whole school is now seeing
the benefit with the big conference money starting to come in. The future on
the hill is bright.Go Utes!
@motorbikeYes all sports and yes overwhelming. Of course if you are
going to claim utah getting close to BYU in a basketball game, "at the
Marriott Center no less" proves that those two programs are somehow close
then you cannot in any way claim utah football superiority. Or does a 3 point
game at res somehow show us something different than a 3 point win a the MC?
From a college football fan's perspective (not some of the trolls I've
seen here) it is inexcusable to not play the BYU/Utah game but instead play
Fresno. Fresno isn't a bad team, but I thought the reason Utah
couldn't be bothered with the rivalry game is because they had other
commitments with the Big 10. There is no good way to spin this. Shame on Chris
Hill and the University of Utah. If there was an opportunity to keep the
rivalry going, you should have made it happen. Absolutely weak.
I think we can all agree, by the posts on this tread, that BYU fans are taking
the rivalry "break" too hard.I find it ironic that BYU fans
are calling us cowards while they refuse to play Utah State home-and-home.Even with Fresno the 2014 Schedule is brutal (most likely 6 ranked
teams):* Pac-12 road games: Michigan, Arizona State, Colorado,
Oregon State, Stanford, UCLA* Pac-12 home games: Idaho State, Fresno,
Arizona, Oregon, USC, Washington StateGo UTES!!
@Duckhunter"I understand that in athletics right now BYU has the
upperhand, overwhelmingly so, and it makes it hard for utah "fans" to
make decent retorts, but they still try. You guys just need to quit whining and
have fun with how it goes BOTH directions."At least you're
starting to admit that the comments go both directions on these threads ... and
I completely agree, there are always those on each side that are a little too
blinded by their school colors.As for BYU having the overwhelming
upperhand ... I can only surmise you're talking about ALL sports. If
that's the case then I don't think Ute fans can argue with you, being
that the Utes have major improvements to make in their smaller athletic programs
outside of gymnastics, skiing and maybe swimming and womens bball/volleyball.But if you're talking about football then you know we're all
laughing at you ... we're all aware of the recent head to head numbers.
Basketball ... sure I'll give you that based on the last 7 years, but we
saw how close that was this year - at the marriott center no less. So
How long will Utah fans say, it doesnt matter how bad we are, we are in the PAC
12, and youre not. Na na na na na, and thats all that matters? . Why do Ute fans
ASSUME that BYU is jealous of their PAC membership? The PAC didnt invite BYU
because it has an honor code and wont play on Sundays. However the chips fall,
I'm proud of that. Proud to be peculiar for those reasons.
@utah'95I don't think any of the BVYU fans posting here
are "frustrated" by utah running away from the game, I think most of us
are simply using it to mock you guys. Kinda like utah "fans" use
whatever they can to mock BYU fans.You see that is how the game is
played on these boards, and frankly between the fan bases. The big difference is
that BYU fans don't whine about it, we just happily participate. utah
"fans" are not only incredibly thin skinned but also extremely
hypocrtical about how the comments on thes boards play out. Go ahead and read
the BYU articles, and try to do it with a non crimson perspective. If it helps
simply replace the "BYU" with "utah" in the comments by the utah
"fans" and then tell us that this is not a fairly even back and
forth.I understand that in athletics right now BYU has the
upperhand, overwhelmingly so, and it makes it hard for utah "fans" to
make decent retorts, but they still try. You guys just need to quit
whining and have fun with how it goes BOTH directions.
TheSportsAuthority,In another Deseret News article just released,
Randy Hollis writes:"In all seriousness, with the huge emotional
drain and all the off-the-field, fan-generated baggage that the Utah-BYU rivalry
brings nowadays, it's no wonder the Utes decided they'd rather take a
breather from all that and face somebody else for a change."Utah
no longer HAS to play BYU annually as an in conference rival. Why would they?
Do you, and the other offended fans voicing their frustration above,
"sound" like the kind of guys that would be fun to hang out with?Let's just see how the two years without the rivalry go. Maybe
we'll like it.Good luck on Thursday.
@sportsauthorityUtah fans aren't spinning anything and you are
naive to think any fan has anything to do with scheduling. The byu game was
originally put on hold to have a home and home with Michigan. The
hypocrisy down south never ceases to amaze me. It was the byu athletic
department that downplayed carrying on the rivalry game when they announced
their independence saying that they would consider it but that it wasn't
their top priority. But now that a few years of filling the schedule with
powerhouse programs like Idaho State and New Mexico State, the cougars realize
they need Utah on their schedule to help thir strength of schedule.The rivalry will be back soon enough but try not to forget that your team has
done the same thing to USU as well. The fact is Fresno is a good game for Utah
mainly for recruiting purposes but they are also aligned with a conference so
they are just as legitimate as byu if not even more so. Utah will
have one of the best schedules in the country with home games with Michigan,
Oregon and USC in 2014 having byu or not doesn't change it.
@ thesportsauthority,Seeing as you are the authority, what's it
like to lose 3 in a row, and 8 out of the last 11 to your rival? Whats it like
to watch your rival go to two BCS bowls, while you go to the Taco Bowl, again,
and again, and again.....?Just askin.........
@MotorbikeYou are spot on, amen Bro! Haven't we beat BYU the
last year or two; on the grid iron?
Utah'95"Do I need to point out that it has become
commonplace for the Utes to beat BYU, whether at RES or in Happy Valley?"Which is why it's all the more laughable that the Utes are running
away from BYU to play Fresno State.Utah fans make themselves look
ridiculous trying to spin this in any way other than the Utes are afraid of
losing to BYU - just like the Utes are running away from the Aggies in football
sammyg & TheSportsAuthority ...I notice both of you had to run a
different direction with your comments versus staying on topic. And yes, I do
wish Utah was in a bowl game ... but at the expense of playing in a great
conference and a tougher schedule?? Absolutely not. We know that doesn't
bother Coug fans though, so no big deal, enjoy your bowl game.And yes
sammyg, it's nice to see Utah basketball making their way back ... but was
there something about that comment that was supposed to be an insult to me or
Ute fans? Once again, you're side-stepping so fast that you're not
making much sense.
It's the BYU fans that I can't stand...otherwise the game was ok!
Just the FAX,You said, "the truth that Utah simply isn't
good enough to play two strong OOC opponents, and still qualify for a
bowl."Do I need to point out that it has become commonplace for
the Utes to beat BYU, whether at RES or in Happy Valley?The Utes did
look like they were "in over their heads" in the Pac 12 this season, and
it was frustrating to watch it. But do you REALLY believe that the Cougars
would have fared any better had they played Utah's schedule?Let's talk again next December - after BYU has played Notre Dame,
Wisconsin, Texas, Utah, Utah State, Boise State. You might have a different
@sammySure all Utah fans wish our team would have won one more game
and made it to a bowl game. Thanks for pointing out the obvious. Let me point something else out to you that should be obvious as well. The
Utes have beaten your lousy cougar team for three years in a row now. You talk
about Utah "scheduling down" with Fresno State and yet if they were to
play your mighty cougars the odds are Fresno wins that game. I no it's
hard to accept but byu hasn't had a good win all year. You got beat by San
Jose State. You only qualified for a bowl game because you had a very weak
schedule with Idaho State, New Mexico State and Hawaii. It is still
a bowl game and yes I do wish my team had continued their streak of going to
bowl games but maybe a little less pounding of your chest would be more
appropriate when your team just wasn't that good this year.Go
To the majority of the whinny fans posting on this article, I have a question
for you.Back in high school, when you asked that cute girl to the
prom, and she turned you down to go with someone she liked better; did you write
letters to the school paper with insults about her decision?Pretty
much the same thing here. The U vs. Y game will continue next year, take a 2
year break, and continue again. Quit complaining and get over yourself. Utah
is free to schedule any teams they want and choose not to schedule the Y for 2
years. Deal with it.
motorbikeI've been to Utah's sports hall of fame, but
I've never seen your SOS trophy. Where do they keep it?Sagarin
Rating#34 BYU(7-5) bowl > #51 Utah(5-7) no bowlYour
incessant excuse-making is laughable; it's time for Utah fans to just admit
that the Utes are only the 3rd best team in the state.
motorbike"... meaningless bowl game"... bitter words from a
jealous 'I wanted my team in a bowl game too' Ute fan.It
must be difficult to have watched that New Mexico Bowl today just wishing that
your Utes were there instead of Arizona. I'm sure Arizona is pretty stoked
about being there coming up with the win in the last 2 minutes.I bet
you're watching USU about now, then next week you'll be watching BYU
and also checking out to see who Jabari will be playing for.Tough
Ute football season but like you said last week there's much to look
forward to..."The message has been sent though, the best
basketball school in the state is on it's way back!"LOL
You want to get real BYU fans? Laugh at Utah scheduling Fresno all you want, but
they have a 40th ranked Sagarin rating which is almost identical to BYU. So
essentially Utah is replacing BYU with another BYU, only Fresno resides in
fertile recruiting ground.Want to get even more real? Utah beat BYU
again this year ... when you look at SOS ratings and Sagarin ratings it's
not hard to see that if BYU played as difficult of a schedule as Utah, they too
would finish with a lower Sagarin rating and would definitely not be bowling.Utah SOS = 27 / Sagarin Rating = 51BYU SOS = 56 / Sagarin Rating =
34Your incessant whining is growing old and your over-inflated egos
are laughable. As said before, feel free to laugh at missed bowl games or
"scheduling down", when you've actually played a schedule as
difficult as Utah's and in turn make it to a bowl. The silence would be
deafening if every BYU football fan had to live by that rule!
It's too funny reading comments from Utah obsessed Cougar fans. Guys, the
day BYU plays as difficult of a schedule as Utah is now playing in the PAC 12 is
the day we'll listen to what you have to say.Until then, be content
with your meaningless bowl game that came due to wins over Hawaii, NMSU, Idaho,
and Weber State.
I couldn't care less about Utah playing BYU, but it is like USC dropping
Notre Dame and scheduling Eastern Michigan. This is an in-state, traditional
rivalry. There is a hidden agenda and it may be a yellow streak down Chris
Hill's back or trying to settle an old score. Hill should go.
nosaerfoeciovehtLOL at how Utah fans continue to desperately spin
Happy about this addition to our non-conf schedule. A good mid-major program to
compliment Michigan, who was a nice two-year upgrade from BYU.Love
how upset some byu "fans" still are about, well, everything. But I guess
they're a lot more desperate to try to prove something with the rivalry
right now. Keep squawking ute-haters!
Utah'95"Utah IS afraid to play BYU....Utah IS killing the
rivalry.....everyone IS laughing at Utah,"After all of the chest
beating about how "superior" the Utes had become because of nothing but
a conference invitation, the truth that Utah simply isn't good enough to
play two strong OOC opponents, and still qualify for a bowl, hurts.According to your own AD, Utah IS afraid to play two strong OOC opponents -
BYU and Michigan - in the same season, because the Utes are afraid that they
could lose both games and not qualify for a bowl.Of course, after
this season, Hill may want to revise that plan to play NO strong OOC
opponents.It's becoming increasingly clear that the Utes are in
way over their heads in the PAC and four conference wins may be the best they
can hope for, making winning at least two OOC games absolutely essential to
Utah's bowl chance.The truth hurts, but there it is.
54 IQ now that's funny
all together now lets sing pat a cake pat a cake bakers man what a schedule of
I'll say it again - BYU fans, get over yourselves.All this talk
of "Utah is afraid to play BYU....Utah is killing the rivalry.....everyone
is laughing at Utah," just makes you sound petty and shrill. And those
characteristics aren't congruent with what BYU as an institution stands
for.Why are you so concerned with what Utah does and doesn't
do? Does being offended, and publicly (or semi-publicly) venting your
frustrations help you sleep at night?It never ceases to amaze me
that despite being beaten 8 of the last 11 times, BYU fans try to peddle that
the Utes are "afraid" to play the Cougars.I am looking
forward to seeing how NOT playing BYU in football goes. The rivalry is
certainly heated, but I it seems to bring out the worst in both fan bases.As far as Fresno goes:The Bulldogs have a solid football
program.The Valley is a talent-rich recruiting site.Maybe Utah didn't ask for a 2 for 1 deal.It is dangerous to
think of the FSU games as automatic wins.Even if Fresno isn't
particularly strong those two seasons, Utah's strength of schedule will
rank very high.
pebbles"Yes, I am so jealous of a third rate bowl game that
nobody outside of Utah or San Diego cares about."Actually,
you're beside yourself with jealousy that the only bowl the Utes are good
enough to play in anymore is the couch potato bowl.
Pebbles huh, at least I served. Yes, I am so jealous of a third rate bowl game
that nobody outside of Utah or San Diego cares about. No surprising Y fans
would be as third rate bowls is all they have ever known. Cheers.
@pebbles"The only reason BYU was bowl eligible was because they
played a WAC lite schedule"I'll try to keep that in mind
while I'm in San Diego watching my team play in a bowl game. Meanwhile
you'll be at home watching my team play in a bowl game, desperately hoping
they lose, and only wondering what it might be like to be watching your team
play in a bowl game in San Diego.LOL!
Justmythoughts, regarding the losing season, too bad BYU fans have to live
vicariously through teams that can actually beat Utah. The only reason BYU was
bowl eligible was because they played a WAC lite schedule (Hawaii, Idaho, New
Mexico State etc.).
All the Ute fans I have talked to.....and they have been really annoying these
past few years....hate this. I give them credit for that. No matter how Utah
wants to spin this....it makes them look weak. I usually cheer for both
teams....BYU and Utah...but this year I wanted Utah to lose every game they
played. It was nice to see them have a losing season because of their
Chris Hill just lost all credibility in my book. All Ute fans i
know want the rivalry game to continue. This is garbage.
I'm not quite sure why some of my fellow fans make a big deal about this.
As Uteanymous accurately pointed out, the reason Utah dropped BYU was they were
concerned about playing them the same year they played Michigan. It
doesn't take an intelligent person to understand that means they are
concerned about the potential for losing to both. If not for the BYU coaching
staff's dreadful handling of the QB situation this year, BYU would have
easily won. Fresno State is a decent school, certainly, but you would have to
like Utah's chances against them more than against a rival. Given the
stated rationale for dropping BYU, I think this move makes plenty of sense.
AllotabaloneyThe delusion on the hill continues to go viral. Now we have 'bored' Ute fans that are leaving the fold...
would rather watch other teams outside the PAC12 and other bowl games.My question is this... what other option did U think you had this post season?
@backpacn"Utah football is slowly sinking into the abyss while
Utah fans are beating their chests in delusional arrogance.Sad!"And yet, we still beat you. Choice, isn't it?
WACpaddled"...why is BYU afraid to schedule Colorado?"Where on earth did you conjure up this bogus idea that BYU is
"afraid" to schedule Colorado???BYU has won 3 of its last 4
games versus the Buffs including a bowl game in 1988 (20-17) and BYU's last
visit to Boulder (41-20). The last time BYU lost to Colorado was 1947 (7-9) in
Boulder, loooong before most of the PARENTS of most of the posters on this blog
were even born.Fans of a program that was so inept that it was only
able to win TWO conference titles in 38 years would be wise to stop disparaging
the conference.It simply makes you look foolish.btw, why
are the Utes "afraid" to schedule the YMCA? The Utes are 1-7 versus the
There's no sport in playing BYU anymore. If BYU wins, they're
(rightly so) better. If Utah wins, the same old tired posters (Daffy aka
Duckhunter & Kenny aka Sammy G) claim BYU gave the game away. Blah, blah,
blah . . . The rivalry, because of the fans (me included), is a
bore. It's more fun to root for every PAC-12 team's out of conference
and bowl games. Something neither fan base of BYU/Utah is capable of.The King is dead! Long live the King!
CougFaninTXFrisco, TXBYU moving away from WAC teams. Utah moving
towards them. At least if U beat USU and Fresno St, U can claim the WAC
Championship. Although, beating USU might be a tall order.____________BYU can claim the WAC title! Well almost.BYU
should move away from playing San Jose St. BYU is 6-10 all time against the
Spartans.And why is BYU afraid to schedule Colorado? BYU is 3-8-1 all time
against them.If BYU moves away from playing WAC type teams, how do they
expect to become bowl eligible? The past few years have proven they can't
beat better teams.
navel vetDon't kid yourself. Hill himself announced
at the time he scheduled Michigan and dropped BYU, that he didn't think the
Utes were good enough to play both BYU and Michigan OOC in the same year. Fresno
State is the "B" team in Hill's scheduling plan - a solid but
beatable team - unlike Michigan and BYU, whom Hill considers "A" teams -
strong teams that could very likely beat the Utes. The "C" team will be
another Montana, Northern Colorado, or Weber State, a warm up, automatic win for
the Utes.With the very real possibility of the Utes suffering at
least four or five conference losses every year, Hill is simply giving the Utes
a reasonable chance to get the two OOC wins necessary to keep the Utes bowl
eligible.While the big boys of the PAC 10.2 are scheduling up to
qualify for the playoffs, the little boys of the conference are scheduling down
to qualify for a bowl.A hard as that is for the "mighty"
Utes to accept, that's reality.
54-IQ"Beating USU is much more difficult than beating BYU as has
been proven."Which of course explains why the Utes are dropping
USU completely and running away from BYU for a couple of years, so the Utes can
play a WAC team that has only had one 10-win season in the last 20 years."USU doesn't quit when they get behind."Remind
us again how many times the MUSS rushed the field this year before the Utes
could finally claim victory over a team that supposedly quits when they get
behind.Regardless of how U spin it, EVERYBODY knows that the Utes
scheduled down in order to give themselves a chance to be bowl eligible in 2014
and 2015. It would be hysterical if every Utah fan's worst nightmare occurs
and the Bulldogs actually have a decent team in 2014 and 2015, upsetting the
Utes and dooming the Utes to another couple of bowl-less seasons.
Whatsnu:"NOBODY, and I mean, NOBODY, not living under that
crimson-colored bubble on the hill, is buying that Utah dropped BYU to schedule
Fresno State..."From what I've been reading, it looks more
like is the Indy-WACey fanbase that is claiming Utah dropped them for FSU. FSU
was just barely added to our schedule. You guys were dismissed way back when we
scheduled Michigan. It's the Wolverines who replaced you. FSU more likely
Beating USU is much more difficult than beating BYU as has been proven.Plus, USU doesn't quit when they get behind.
From my point of view, and I have no insight into Dr. Hill's decisions, I
think it's great that we're not playing BYU.We've
dominated in recent years AND in the overall series. nothing to proveWhile we still have to put up with their snivelly, small-minded fans and their
"we'd have beat you had we played", we won't have to listen to
their excuses after they lose.Nah, it's fun shutting up their
obnoxious fans with victory on the field, but after a while, it just gets
tiresome to hear their snivelling. It's good to give it a rest.Now if Utah can just steal a defensive backs coach from USU since Utah
obviously has a need there and USU's coaches just won position coach of the
year honors, they should be able to shore up their pathetic defensive backfield
performance of last season and compete a little better on the field against the
quality teams in the conference.Seeing as how Utah has fallen so far
and is becoming the state's laughing stock, as so many Y posters said, why
couldn't BYU beat them?
BYU moving away from WAC teams. Utah moving towards them. At least if U beat
USU and Fresno St, U can claim the WAC Championship. Although, beating USU might
be a tall order.
Actions speak louder than words my delusional little Utah friends.NOBODY, and I mean, NOBODY, not living under that crimson-colored bubble on
the hill, is buying that Utah dropped BYU to schedule Fresno State because the
Bulldogs would "improve" Utah's schedule.You can spin
that crock until you're blue in the face, but EVERYBODY knows that
you're just blowing smoke. YOU don't even believe the stuff
SportsfanWere you laughing after the game, the last 3 time Utah
played BYU?Naw, crying and making excuses.
Jealous of the U:"...BYU fans are laughing at Utah's
cowardice in running away from BYU."What a frantic and emotional
thing to say. Didn't Utah win 8 of our last 11 games by an average margin
of victory of 14-pts? Why would a Pac-12 team with a .727 winning average vs.
our WACish and mid-midmajorey, ankle-biting little brother have anything to
fear? Don't forget that our recruiting classes have been improving, whilst
yours have been backsliding. Can ANY Indy-WACey fan explain this?uteBusters:LOL at your desperate attempt to portray Murfreesboro
as a recruiting hotbed. Ever heard of Central East H.S.? Look 'em up.
Fresno alone has 3 4-star recruits, plus one 3-star, who's the 25th-ranked
dual-threat QB in the country (by way of comparison, Taysom Hill was ranked
#30). Murfreesboro has none. CA has 2 5-star athletes. TN has 1. CA has 37
4-star athletes. TN has 8. TN has 2 recruits listed among their Top-25
recruits. CA has 0 in their Top-100. Bottom line: CA recruiting
> TN recruiting.Playing FSU > playing the Y.
@jealous U"BYU fans aren't crying about not being able to
play Utah, BYU fans are laughing at Utah's cowardice in running away from
BYU."yeah since utah has lost to byu the last 8 out of 11 times
right?? hahahahah your name fits you perfect
@utebusters "a game that will be watched by thousands of fans
and potential recruits in the East."hahahahahahaha NO it wont be
watched by thousands or any recruits hahahahaha you byu fans are just makin
yourselves look less and less educated as the days go by. hahahaha you scheduled
MIDDLE TENNESSEE STATE hahahahah and you're tryin to sell us on "they
went 8-4 this year, not much different than fresno state" hahaha im done
thats all that needs to be said.
I can't stop laughing at all the responses from jealous cougar fans ...
this is absolutely hilarious.It's funny to see you all try to
spin Fresno State as a bad/weak opponent when they are in reality the perfect
mid-major opponent to schedule.Good program - CheckCalifornia
(recruiting) - CheckHistory of beating ranked BCS opponents (national
respect factor) - CheckThis accomplishes everything Utah needed this
slot on our schedule to accomplish AND made every cougar fan mad in the
process.Memo to Ducky, anytime you get a game against a quality
opponent in the state of California there's no reason for a 2-for-1 ...
recruiting, recruiting, recruiting. Location, location, location. Fresno >
Provo ... by miles and miles.
@rockwell espn rankings#32 fresno state byu
UNRANKEDquit using sagarin rankings to make your team look good.
nobody and i mean NOBODY goes by sagarin rankings except byu fans.
Everyone is scared to play BYU because we win most of our games aganist BCS
Dr. Hill is killing Utah football just like he killed Utah basketball.The most exciting thing about college football, tradition, is dead on the
Spokane Ute"Not as funny as seeing the usual suspects cry about
not being able to play Utah."BYU fans aren't crying about
not being able to play Utah, BYU fans are laughing at Utah's cowardice in
running away from BYU.
The Utah AD must have seen 'FSU' and thought he was scheduling Florida
State, but then realized it was Fresno State hahahaha.
Nice spin naval. You gonna tell us all about your trip to fresno? I have to
admit as bad as fresno is it is still a thousand times more desirable a
destination than el paso. Things are really looking up in the road trip
department for you. LOL!Hey pebbles do you need any cheese with that
Unranked. Losing record. No bowl. Conference bottom dweller. Running away from
their rival. Utah football is slowly sinking into the abyss while
Utah fans are beating their chests in delusional arrogance.Sad!
Yeah why would Utah schedule a team in Cali as opposed to Provo? Everyone knows
that Provo is a hot bed for recruiting. Must be sad being on the outside looking
@ Snack PACNot as funny as seeing the usual suspects cry about not
being able to play Utah. I guess it's tough when no one want you.
Naval Vet"While Utah will be cashing in on a recruiting trip to
No. California, you'll be scrounging around Murfreesboro."Fresno is CENTRAL California, hardly a recruiting hotbed, while Murfreesboro
is in the heart of SEC and ACC country, a game that will be watched by thousands
of fans and potential recruits in the East.Middle Tennesee State was
8-4 this year, not much different than Fresno State 9-3.Besides,
unlike our scared little sister on the hill, BYU to didn't schedule Middle
Tennessee State to run away from playing Utah.
This is too funny watching the usual suspects fall all over themselves trying to
spin this as a positive. The Utes are becoming the laughing stock of the state
and don't even realize it.
Spokane Ute"Great scheduling by Utah. It appears a lot of people
don't know about Fresno State."LOL!Spin cycle
in full motion on the hill.Utah fans are only fooling themselves if
they believe that back in July when Hill announced that Utah wouldn't be
playing BYU in 2014 and 2015, that Fresno State, coming off a 4-9 season, was
going to have a better record in 2012, than BYU, coming off a 10-3, Top 25
season.The truth is, no matter how our little friends on the hill
try to spin this, Utah is only playing Fresno State instead of BYU because the
Utes are afraid of losing to Michigan AND BYU and not qualifying for a bowl.Spin away Utah fans, but you only make yourself look more foolish by
trying to justify this as anything other than a desperate attempt to lose to
Michigan and still be bowl eligible.
tooWACish&Mid-Majorey:"This is just too weird, even from the
Utes, to see them dump BYU and pick up Fresno....I am splitting my sides
laughing over this one."You're not "splitting [your]
sides laughing over this". You're crying in your coffee. Utah had a
choice. We could have scheduled the cougars. Holmoe crossing his fingers, and
waiting for our call. We could have scheduled Tulsa. But we liked Fresno St.
better, and I for one think it was a great choice. FSU was 9-3, and co-MWC
champions, so they're a solid addition as far as SOS goes, and they're
in Northern California, so it's also good from a recruiting standpoint.
Well done Dr. Hill!And speaking of "side splitting"
hilarity, while Utah will be playing out our series with Fresno St, YOU'LL
be playing your YOURS with.......Middle Tennessee??? Ha ha ha ha
ha!While Utah will be cashing in on a recruiting trip to No.
California, you'll be scrounging around Murfreesboro.And that
reminds me...why didn't you insist on a 2 - 1 with the Blue Raiders?
Wouldn't they agree to it?
The Utes don't need BYU; or there obnoxious fan base. The jealousy and envy
is so sad. I guess that's how it goes when no conference wants your team.
Just a Nomad, with no direction, future or hope. I love it! As soon as Gonzaga
leaves the WCC, BYU will really be on the outside looking in. Maybe the WAC or
Big Sky will take you in; or not.LOL!
Our 2015 schedule looks great: no FCS opponents.And no whiney,
ankle-biting little brother either.As for the other schedules: Boo
for Weber St. and SUU, and ESPECIALLY Idaho St. I wish we would look to teams
like Colorado St, UNLV, or Hawai'i if we feel we need a warm up game.
Beating FCS teams proves nothing. Just last year, we routed No. Colorado 41-0,
but that didn't help us identify what areas needed work. It just made us
overconfident when heading up to Logan. And while UNCO would be a W, so too
would have been CSU, UNLV, and UH. And at least Utah has some relationship with
those aforementiond MWC teams. We used to be conference rivals. In fact, I
believe CSU is our 4th most-played game behind USU, the Indy-WACers, and
Wyoming.LOVE the addition of Fresno St. It sure beats that rumor
I'd heard that we were talking about series with Tulsa. Utah will have a
better recruiting opportunity in NorCal than Oklahoma. Or Provostan for that
Fresno will give Utah a better game than BYU does. Atleast Fresno won't
quit halfway through the third quarter.LOL
Great scheduling by Utah. It appears a lot of people don't know about
Fresno State. Sorry BYU fans, you may need Utah, but the Utes certainly
don't need BYU. BYU is on the outside looking in. Locked into a weak bowl,
with no chance of joining a BCS conference. Karma!
WACpaddled by Dr. HillU must be soooo excited to be the laughing
stock of the state... the couch potato bowl just added cupcakes to the menu.LOL!
bwaaaaak, bwaak bwaak bwaak!!!Spewing OJ out of my nose reading Utah
fans trying to spin Fresno State as an "improvement" over BYU.The joke is really on our little friends on the hill if they're buying
I am certainly enjoying this development. LOL!Uh howie how come utah
couldn't get a 2 for 1 with fresno? naval can you tell us why? Isn't
utah in the pac12? Why would they take a 1 for 1 with a program like fresno?LOL!
If I were a BYU fan I would take it as a big slight. Maybe the Utes wanted to
play someone they don't beat with regularity like BYU. What's left to
prove against the kittens., nothing. Oh well, BYU still has 2016 to still try
to get a victory against their PAC 12 Big Brother. Go Utes.
Get over yourselves, offended BYU fans. You have a solid football program, but
there are other teams worth playing besides your beloved Cougars.BYU
just finished a 7-5 season, and are currently ranked #34 by Sagarin. Fresno
State finished the regular season 9-3, and are ranked #40.When
playing the Cougars, Bulldogs, Aggies, and Wolverines in the next four seasons,
the Utes will have to play well to avoid a loss in the out of conference portion
of the season.Good luck in your bowl game, against a solid SDSU team
- who isn't ranked as highly as Fresno State, by the way.....
2fer"Fresno is 9-3 and is a co-conf. champion, BYU is 7-5 and is
the third best independent team....out of four."Disillusional
spin at its finest:Sagarin Rankings#34 BYU#40 Fresno
StateDuring the Bronco Era - 2005 to presentTop 25
FinishesBYU - 5FSU - 010+ Win SeasonsBYU - 5FSU - 0Bowl HistoryBYU - 5-2FSU - 1-4Overall RecordBYU - 73-29 (no losing seasons)FSU - 57-45
(including two 4-win losing seasons)It's absolutely ridiculous
for Utah fans to argue that replacing BYU with Fresno State "improves"
Utah's schedule.As Hill said last July, it's not fair to
Utah to play Michigan and BYU in the same season... in other words, you're
just not good enough to handle playing BYU and another good OOC opponent.
Good game, Fresno is a solid program that is on the upswing. A really good
early season test for the Utes.
Third best independent team? Got objectivity?I'd much prefer a
game with BYU; it's a compelling, nationally-recognized rivalry.
Thank you Dr Hill.BYU doesn't deserve a PAC 12 game granted by
Why haven't we heard from Chris B. about how the Utes are going to thrash
fresno?This is just too weird, even from the Utes, to see them dump
BYU and pick up Fresno. What a joke on everyone, Dr. Hill. Good job of
scheduling, sir, not that it will make any difference to the outcome in the
mighty PAC 12 for your team. I am splitting my sides laughing over this one.
Maybe you could get New Mexico for 2016 if Nothern Colorado isn't
available.Why didn't you insist on a 2 - 1 with Fresno?
Wouldn't they agree to it?
SammyFresno is 9-3 and is a co-conf. champion, BYU is 7-5 and is the
third best independent team....out of four.Who is scheduling down?
Can we say... desperate to become bowl eligible?So funny.
Fresno might give us more of a challenge than BYU has the last few years.
Fresh Fresno cupcakes... LOL(chickens clucking in the background)
Are you kidding me?Home and Home with Fresno State but not BYU?