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Susan Rice withdraws as secretary of state candidate


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  • raybies Layton, UT
    Dec. 18, 2012 6:46 a.m.

    She may be qualifieid, but the Benghazi criticism is serious and important--it remains an open wound that needs proper dressing. That clearly hasn't happened yet. If Obama wants to make progress in this particular station, he needs to choose someone that was not affiliated with that whole fiasco. Otherwise it's seen as though he's rewarding their own fumbles.

  • OCoug Ogden, UT
    Dec. 15, 2012 12:04 a.m.

    Good news to hear.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Dec. 14, 2012 6:54 p.m.

    Owl-she may not be qualified but letting the process play out would be wise. We'll never know, we won't have time to judge her qualifications because of politics (both left and right). I certainly don't view Maureen Dowd as a credible source. Our system is corrupt, influenced by money. Our Senators are life long dependents of the public dole and as Americans we have become complacent to think this is o.k.. Corporations are the new Kings and our Congress their servants. Susan Rice was just another pawn in the game of politics.

  • Owl Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 14, 2012 4:38 p.m.

    Maureen Dowd in the NYT made the strongest argument against Susan Rice. When that comes from the left, it is hard to blame the right wing or politics. Intelligence is not the issue. Rice is simply not qualified by way of temperament or integrity.

  • Screwdriver Casa Grande, AZ
    Dec. 14, 2012 4:31 p.m.

    The whole position is ridiculous but I don't think it's sexist and racist. It's completely political. There were riots, there is terrorism. There were riots at the time so why is that hard to believe? You're just being weak minded puppets to actually believe the republican excuse for wanting Rice out.

    They want John Kerry to get the position so it opens up a Senate position they think they can get.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Dec. 14, 2012 2:37 p.m.

    Seriously folks, you are judging Susan Rice's whole career by an appearance on a Sunday talk show? Do you have any idea about her credentials, education, job experience? She is a well respected international diplomat who draws praises from conservatives as well as liberals. This is one of the things wrong with America these days. We have a quick mob mentality fed by the internet, talk radio and a 24 hour news cycle. We spent several years investigating 9/11 and the causes that led to that tragedy before drawing sound conclusions. The Benhahzi incident is a few months old, the investigation is in its inital stages yet conservative talking heads seem to know all the facts. The only fact any logical person can conclude at this point in time is her decision to withdrawl from consideration is political. Politics aside, I want our most qualified to serve in our military and state departments. We only need to look back to the 2nd Gulf War to remind ourselves what happens when we leave important decisions up to idealogues.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Dec. 14, 2012 2:20 p.m.

    Those sexist racist Republicans railroaded Susan Rice out of this position.

    Those same sexist racist Republicans also nominated and confirmed Colin Powell, and Condolessa Rice to that same position. Darn those Republicans.

  • John Galt Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 14, 2012 1:39 p.m.

    Salt Lake City, UT
    "Republicans who personally I believe railroaded Rice"

    Yeah. Those darn Republicans. Never mind that H. Clinton didn't want Rice as SOS. And did you read what Maureen Dowd had to say about her? And the NY Times? (among others).

    It would have been so easy for Obama to submit her name to the Senate, and THEN when the Republicans kept her from being confirmed, Obama could have gotten a lot of mileage out of it (those pesky, racist Republicans).

    It was Rice's own party that, in the final analysis, railroaded Rice. That's why her name was pulled.

  • killpack Sandy, UT
    Dec. 14, 2012 1:39 p.m.

    non believer,

    There is a huge difference between Iraq and Benghazi. First off, few people opposed the conventional wisdom that Iraq had WMD, as per the intelligence reports of the time (which by the way is not lying, it's just bad intel, even if really bad intel). And Barack Obama, to his credit, went against the grain on this issue. In the case of Benghazi, on the other hand, EVERYONE BUT the Obama Administration knew that Benghazi was a terrorist attack, yet they (the Administration) chose to treat it as a spontaneous movement. Second, even though a good majority in Washington initially rode the invade Iraq bandwagon, they quickly abandoned ship when it didn't work out leaving Bush and his inner circle to bear the criticism. The media crucified Bush and his associates for the extremely costly war. There has been no such criticism from the media for the total debauchery that Benghazi turned out to be. Third, we know why 4,000 troops died in Iraq. Bad intel. Why are there two dead Navy SEALs and a dead ambassador? After all this time, the Administration utterly refuses to tell us anything.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Dec. 14, 2012 12:33 p.m.

    Saint George, UT

    No, I wasn't there.

    Here in California we learn that 2 plus 2 equals 4. All I did was connect the dots. And it didn't take long to figure it out. No lies here.

  • non believer PARK CITY, UT
    Dec. 14, 2012 11:25 a.m.

    To MohoKat

    Where is your concern for the over 4000 American Soldiers killed in Iraq due to lies by Bush/Cheney and your hero Condalisa Rice? John Bolton may have a lot of foriegn policy experince, but he never used in in the UN! There is not a country out there he did not offend during his Post! He was also never confirmed as the UN Ambassador by Congress! He was an off session appointment because he never would have been confirmed due to his lack of integrity and morals!

  • killpack Sandy, UT
    Dec. 14, 2012 11:23 a.m.


    "Our country losses the chance of having another well educated, loyal patriot serve at the expense of the country club boys playing in the beltway."

    There was nothing well educated or loyally patriotic about Susan Rice's opening statement on Meet the Press on 9/16. The statement was contrary to what everyone else knew. So why didn't she know it? Whether or not she was given bad intel, the fact of the matter is that everyone else knew, if not an incompetent intelligence community (which by the way they are denying), that this was no spontaneous attack. Whether she was told to say what she said or not, this makes her looks incredibly incompetent and unfit for duty in such a high position of trust and confidence.

  • WHAT NOW? Saint George, UT
    Dec. 14, 2012 11:23 a.m.

    @tom in ca

    "...Susan Rice was thrown under the bus by Obama when he instructed her to lie...".

    You were there. You heard the instructions.

    Or you're just making it up.

    People who make stuff up are liars...

    Even in Cailfornia.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Dec. 13, 2012 9:27 p.m.

    This is politics. Pure and simple. The story has been told hundreds of times before, just the names of those who play it change. Our country losses the chance of having another well educated, loyal patriot serve at the expense of the country club boys playing in the beltway. Ms. Rice will be o.k., finding other ways to serve her country. Just put her name along so many other casualites of politics (e.g. Bork).

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Dec. 13, 2012 8:41 p.m.

    She sealed her fate when she went on 5 networks and spouted the President's words verbatim for all the world to hear. Then she said she only gave what intelligence reports told her to say. Intelligence, means smart people in this case, did not even come close to saying those words, especially 5 days after the incident. Then to go on the networks and state the obvious, NOT, and be the errand runner for the administration when the President or Secretary of State Clinton should have been the targets for the message errata.

    Those two lacked the courage to say what they told Ms. Rice to say. She did her duty but when you don't tell the truth, it comes back to bite you, sooner and in this case later. The President got his second term and Ms. Rice will get some prize for her job on television.

    What a shame that we might end of with John Kerry, who has his own backlog of problems starting with his medal throwing incidents and demeaning actions for and about the military. His campaign also has items that surfaced that will impact on his appointment, either Defense or State.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Dec. 13, 2012 8:37 p.m.

    After sullying the honor of 4 Americans that gave their lives for this country with her political spin and lies I am relieved that this woman removes herself for consideration.

    Maybe others will think twice before selling their political souls and personal integrity in government service.

    We can only hope.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Dec. 13, 2012 7:07 p.m.

    Don't worry when the left trots out their disdain for Fox. It just means they have no counter-argument, so they fall back to their favorite foil.

    I believe the name dragging in the mud started with the Bork nomination.

    House dem women - that would include queen nancy who would not know the truth if it bit her - and Maxine Waters ('nuf said there) - there is less credibility there than in the North Korean press

  • mohokat Ogden, UT
    Dec. 13, 2012 6:50 p.m.

    @FT "The Benhazi scandal is nothing outside of Fox" You are correct as far as the media is concerned who is in fact in Obamas front pocket. You are a real piece of work to refer to the Bengazi scandal as nothing. In addition to the Ambassador two of my veteran brothers died in that fiasco. If one of those brave warriors was your son would Bengazi still be nothing.We have gotten from Obama the same as we got from Fast and furious. Stonewalling just short of Executive privledge. One question. Have you ever served your Country? I doubt it.

  • ksmith Sacramento, CA
    Dec. 13, 2012 6:05 p.m.

    Obama requested that she withdraw her name from consideration. Does that indicated that he is racist?

  • dumprake Washington, UT
    Dec. 13, 2012 6:01 p.m.

    First, why did Obama trot out Susan Rice (The U.S. ambassador to the U.N.) to all the networks with a story that was an obvious lie? Rice is not to fault here, except she didn't have the character to tell Obama no--she should have. What in the world was she doing this for anyway? She's the wrong person and she had nothing to do with Benghazi. She was a sacrificial lamb. Still, I have no respect for someone who agrees to go before television cameras on national TV and tell the same lie to every news station. She is categorically unqualified to represent this country in any capacity.
    Second, the only person who is really culpable in this whole Benghazi mess is the president of the United Stated, yes, the liar in chief, he gave that order to Susan Rice, he dictated the message, and he should resign for this deliberate lie. But, alas, the press protects him, the Democrats protect him, and nobody wants the truth anyway; we certainly will not get it from this administration.

  • Hemlock Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 13, 2012 5:58 p.m.

    Reality strikes the president. Rice is a smart lady derailed by the lure of politics. She is not qualified to serve the country because she serves only her partisan puppeteers.

  • Cinci Man FT MITCHELL, KY
    Dec. 13, 2012 5:48 p.m.

    Of course it was the fault of the process. Of course it was. Of course it was. Hmm, I cannot even convince myself of that baloney. It wasn't anyone's fault but Obama, who gave approval for the lies, and Ms. Rice who took one for the ol' gipper. That's what happens when you are loyal to politicians.

  • mohokat Ogden, UT
    Dec. 13, 2012 5:44 p.m.

    Tom in CA and Counter Intelligence have it exactly right. As far as the remark about John Bolton. Bolton knows more about foreign affairs than Obama and Rice put together.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Dec. 13, 2012 5:34 p.m.

    There has to be other hidden baggage here as well. The Benhazi scandal is nothing outside of Fox Noise and the few tin foiled hats who follow it. BO does not want a fight on such a meaningless appointment. He has a few Supreme Court appointments coming up and a fiscal cliff prior to the mid terms. The way the GOP is going they're going to hand Congress to the lib's and BO will spend his last 2 years in office cramming his agenda down the throat of the 1%.

  • What in Tucket? Provo, UT
    Dec. 13, 2012 5:16 p.m.

    I can understand Rice spouting White House instructions for a day or two, but after that she would have to be pretty dumb not to realize what was going on in Libya. I would rather have her than Kerry at the job.

  • non believer PARK CITY, UT
    Dec. 13, 2012 4:14 p.m.

    At least she was a hundrd times better in the UN than John Bolton!

  • Counter Intelligence Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 13, 2012 4:00 p.m.

    Attempts to paint Republicans as sexist and racist for opposing Susan Rice are truly despicable (Republicans had the fist black women named Rice for Secretary of State)

    Susan Rice sullied her own name when she went on the TV circuit spreading lies to obfuscate Benghazi

    I am sure Obama was smart enough to see the writing on the wall and knew that if he nominated Rice - Benghazi would be in the news all over again (and this time he may not be able to bury it in a lapdog press)
    By getting Rice to play the martyr and withdraw her own name; He can further bury his foreign affairs incompetence and continue with the race and gender warfare that seems to have served him well.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    Dec. 13, 2012 3:59 p.m.

    Does this mean we will finally know the truth about 9/11? I doubt it. We will probably never know the truth about this or the true election results until after we have passed on from this life. Sad that what Obama said would be a transparent government with no secrecy will come to be known as the administration of secrets and lies.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Dec. 13, 2012 3:11 p.m.

    " .... I think it is very unfortunate the way we run these peoples names into the ground ..."

    Tolstoy -
    Susan Rice, all by her lonesome, ran her own name into the ground. Place the "blame" where it belongs.

    Susan Rice was thrown under the bus by Obama when he instructed her to lie to the American public about what went down in Benghazi. She was dumb enough to follow his orders - this is why she is not qualified to be secretary of state, and she knows it. The heat in the kitchen finally got too high, and she got out of the kitchen. The American public is not stupid.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 13, 2012 3:07 p.m.

    Since it seems like Obama will nominate Republican Chuck Hagel to Secretary of Defense, I have a feeling he won't appoint Democrats to both. Then again, his long-expected backup of Kerry has a bit too much approval from Republicans who personally I believe railroaded Rice just so Obama can pick Kerry and allow Scott Brown to have another shot at a senate seat.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Dec. 13, 2012 2:55 p.m.

    I think it is very unfortunate the way we run these peoples names into the ground and yes that applies to people in both parties. Having said that and knowing it will not happen I still beleive Huntsman would should at least be considered as an option.