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Published: Wednesday, Dec. 12 2012 10:55 a.m. MST

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Fred44
Salt Lake City, Utah

The President has offered to cut his proposed tax increase by 200 billion and is willing to talk about changes to social security. What have the republicans offered up in the way of compromise to get this thing moving?

The Skeptical Chymist
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

The income tas is lower than it has been in the past 50 years. The Bush tax cuts were supposed to restore prosperity, remember? How's that working for you? Are we prosperous yet? It is a fantasy that tax cuts bring prosperity - all they did was put the government in debt. They should be raised to the Clinton era levels without delay. Then we should cut the size of government - specifically by reducing military expenditures. There is no reason in the world why we need to spend as much on our military (approximately) as the rest of the world combined. Remember what Eisenhower said: "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron."

patriot vet
Cedar City, UT

Skeptical Chymist @1104...
You could not have said it better. But let me add a note. I was an Air Force pilot at the tail end of Vietnam. I recently visited the pilot training base (Laughlin AFB, Del Rio, TX). The young lieutenant giving us a tour said 40% of those undergoing pilot training will be assigned to drone squadrons.

Drones are the modern-day warfare weapon. They are cheap, do not risk a pilot's life or POW status and are exceptionally precise. Yesterday's USAF launch of the space drone shows the remarkable advancements in drones. They are still in the shadows, as they remain classified. But they are already an important part of our military muscle.

The defense budget should be cut. We simply do not need any more $6 billion huge aircraft carriers. Those are combat systems that fit WWII and Vietnam. They are not needed today. It is time to move full speed into the 21st Century defense realm.

xscribe
Colorado Springs, CO

I think people are smart enough to know that there are "serious differences" about what needs to happen. That's not news. What the people want is both sides to stop the posturing, stop nitpicking - Obama slowly bringing down his proposal, and Boehner still wanting the tax cuts in place for the rich - and start to work toward a real compromise. This is, pure and simple, politics at its worst!

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

The Skeptical Chymist
the economy was doing fine post-cuts until the barney frank induced housing bubble collapsed. BO's own advisors told him in 2010 that the weak recovery would be damaged by letting the cuts expire then.

And actually federal revenues are higher than they were previously.

You cannot fill a bucket with no bottom no matter how much water you pour in. You cannot plug the budget hole with rate increases alone.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

@ Lost in DC. You are right but the Democrats don't want to know what the realities are. According to the Tax Foundation's Scott Hodge, "Only 13% of US citizens earn more than $100,000 yet they pay 87% of the nation's income tax." "America is becoming divided between a shrinking group of taxpayers who are bearing the lion's share of the costs of government and a growing group of taxpayers who are disconnected from those costs". "Of 143 million returns filed in 2011, 41% owed nothing to the IRS, up from 25.2% in 2000". The thing that should worry Democrats is the fact that the number of people who actually pay taxes is shrinking while those who pay no taxes is increasing! Numbers don't lie but Democrats do!

worf
Mcallen, TX

, "Only 13% of US citizens earn more than $100,000 yet they pay 87% of the nation's income tax."

These people should be thank for covering 87% of the taxes, while almost half our people are tax exempt.

Those wanting the 13% to pay more, should be ashamed of themselves. Are we a nation of beggars, and whiners?

worf
Mcallen, TX

Fred44
Cutting from a proposed increase is not cutting the budget. Cutting the current spending is cutting.

The Skeptical Chymist,

Lower taxes is expending welfare. Half our people are exempt,--making others pay more. Breaking those others increases dependency and gives greater control to our politicians.

May our liberal friends get what they voted for---, but leave the rest of us alone.

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