Possible cause of COPDSo if you meet a guy and have an opinion that
he's very "cold", not motivational, least appealing, extremely cold
and not intriguing and then you say you don't know him personally...
what's the point in making the comment in the first place?Did
your son sit on the bench or did he get a quality education?I think
the bottom line and a good point you failed or conveniently left out was your
son's opinion... not your bias.
As the parent of a former BYU recruit, and with all do respect to BYU and what
the institution stands for, Bronco was by far the least appealing coach we met
with. Extremely cold, and not at all intriguing. This is not personal,
probably a great guy? However, as the parent of an LDS young man, I could not
direct my son in his direction as per football. I wish I could have, the school
is acadenically top notch and facilities are amazing, However, Coach Mendenhall,
is very "cold" and surprisingly not motivational. Again, I do not know
him personally, which is part of the problem. But did not push my son towards
@Rational:Are you seriously saying that the honor code doesn't
impede recruiting? To be clear, BYU bending the HC for sports recruting purposes
would be an unforgiveable decision and I will gladly accept losing some games
and recruits because the HC's existence. But, to state that it's not
an obstacle in trying to build a winning team is hilarious in its naievete.You've listed non-LDS (or "not-yet-LDS") players who
thrived under the HC, but that misses the point entirely. There are hundreds of
potential recruits every year who never even give BYU a sniff because the HC
would completely ruin their idea of "college life." For every Manti
Te'o you've got two dozen players out "sowing their oats" and
getting their buzz on every weekend. Lots of those guys are great players, but
would be horrible fits for the Y. So, yeah, it's possible to find great
players who are down with the HC, but there's a degree of difficulty there
no thinking person would deny.
"Bronco Mendenhall is not going to throw a guy under the bus — not his
player or his staff," said Aaron Wagner. "His statements in support of
Nelson are his way of backing his offensive coordinator's decisions. If
(offensive coordinator) Brandon Doman chooses to play a guy, Bronco is going to
support that. But he will hold him accountable for the results. Nelson is a
senior captain and, I guess Doman believes — in an offense with a lot of
problems — he is the guy best to play. Mendenhall is backing him."Well, times must be changing because on the True Blue program Monday
night (you can watch it on the Dnews article today, Brandon Doman, when asked
about Riley's health, said, ". . . the decision will be Coach
Mendenhall's decision on who to play."Riley Nelson has an
extremely competitive drive. I believe that factor clouded the decision-making
process for the coaches that allowed him to play injured. Hopefully the coaches
have learned how to temper that type of enthusiasm for the good of the team.
Glaringly obvious that the overwhelming majority of those commenting on this
article don't have a clue about the almost impossible scope of work
required of Bronco Mendenhall or any BYU coach. Not only do they need to have
the demeanor and character of an LDS Mission President, but the coaching and
charismatic genius of a Lombardi or a Rockne or maybe an Urban Meyer. The
subset of all such possible combinations is probably somewhere around 2-5 men to
perhaps include such LDS men as Steve Young and/or Ty Detmer? Although far from perfect, Bronco Mendenhall has done an outstanding job of
resurrecting the BYU Football program from the ashes of the Crowton era. Give
him a few more years of recruiting and building the program together with a
seriously upgraded schedule and there will be (another) national championship
and a return to national relevance in the near future.Predict that
Bronco Mendenhall will one day obtain the same legendary status as Coach
Edwards. 74-29 is not a bad start after 8 seasons. Count on the next 8 being
Hind sight is a wonderful thing. Had BYU scored in going for two against Boise,
Bronco would have been a genius. Since he didn't he is a poor coach. I
felt he should have gone for one but that is his decision and I can agree with
that. He knows the players and the system. Maybe a different play? There are
so many variables. Bronco may not be the best public relations guy but I think
he's a good coach. I personally don't like his defensive philosophy
but again he's the coach. When you know the results it is easy to
criticize and be all knowing. We might have missed the extra point knowing the
struggle our kickers have had this year. Who knows. Its what it is.Gary
The coach only needs to be respectful of fans. Other than that, no one wants the
coach listening to the fans, for every fan there is a different opinion.
Bronco's biggest problem is he talks about championships, but doesn't
have the coaches or players to win a championship. (Does anyone really think the
Offensive Coordinator, is the best of the best out there, one capable of guiding
an offense to a national championship. The very thought makes you laugh.) You
have to assume Riley is left in because he is the best the Y has at the
position. Hence the problem. Oregon lost its QB last year to the NFL, where he
isn't playing because he knew he would be beat out by current QB. The
problem is lack of depth. Oregon churns out QBs for its system (sorta like BYU
used to do.) USC churns out running backs. One goes down another is there.
That isn't the case at BYU apparently. I just hopes he holds his coaches
feet to the fire for what they produced this year!
Toward the end of the game that Riley was clearly hurting, came out and lay down
across the bench behind the sidelines, and BYU got the ball right back, there is
no way Riley should have been allowed to run right back out on the field with
the offense. They lost that game, but had Lark come in, good chance they would
have won. There seems to be a disconnect between Bronco and his assistant
coaches and the team members. No way a player, as apparantly Riley did, makes
the decision Riley made. Appeared the coaches were not ready for BYU to go back
on offense. That should have been a contingency. There is a communication
problem. Bronco is a great coach. But he needs to have more of a handle on
what his assistants do.
WestGranger -- "I like the fact that he admits his faults"Name once.
So after years of consistent winning, Bronco has an injured QB and loses some
very close games to very good teams. Get real.We are lucky to have Bronco as
coach. I like the fact that he admits his faults, is mellowing, wants to win but
isn't willing to win at all cost. I hope he coaches at BYU for years to
come! These young players need to make sacrifices to be excellent.Besides the
defense was AMAZING and #3 in the nation!!! Get real.
The honor code is NOT an impediment to winning. It doesn't inhibit
athletes. Those who live the Code don't get hangovers, DUI's, kill
their friends while DUI. There are plenty of athletes who live the honor code.
I'll name a few:Manti Te'o, Maxwell Award WinnerBryce Harper, MLB NL ROYJabari Parker, High School POYSteve Young,
NFL HOFMike Weir, Masters ChampionI'll name some
non-Mormon's (from memory) who lived the Honor Code:Gary Sheide,
Sammy Baugh WinnerMarc Wilson, College HOFClay Brown,
All-AmericanTom Holmoe, Super Bowl winning player and coachTy
Detmer, College HOF, Heisman TrophySteve Sarkisian, All-AmericanKeith Clearwater, PGA ROYKresimir Cosic, Naismith HOF, FIBA HOFAnd though not a BYU player, I'm sure Tim Tebow, National Champion QB and
Heisman winner lives consistent with the Honor Code, as does Roger Staubach,
David Robinson, etc.More than 40% of Americans go to church on
Sunday. LDS people aren't the only people with standards, and not the only
people who don't drink or smoke. BYU has had many, many great non-Mormon
I'm glad Bronco is loyal to players even if they can't play the
position. I wondey why this seems to apply only to certain players. If you
are remote how does that impace an 18 year old quarterback who needs a father
figure to grow his talent? If he is loyal, why did he ignore a qualified
quarterback with an excellent arm who spent 7 years waiting for a chance while
not complaining. I think the fans see what could have been...an unbeaten season
except for Bronco's blind loyality to a player with a loosing record at 2
I could care less if Bronco likes the fans. My beef is his sticking with a qb
who isn't as good as Lark. Bronco cannot identify talent.
It is interesting to me that so many BYU fans continue to second guess
Mendenhall's decision to go for the 2 point conversion @ Boise. Had it
been successful, BYU fans likely would have hailed the decision as a gutsy move
by a winning coach. FWIW when asked about it in his post game interview, BSU
Coach Peterson said he would have made the same call if he had been in
Bronco's shoes. C'mon BYU fans, cut your coach some slack.
I agree with you, Wireless Lawyer. No one, and I mean not one other person,
really knows what it's like to be a head coach of any given team (I'm
married to one and I don't even know). I suspect some fans think
Mendenhall should be more demonstrative on the field, like getting in the
player's faces, yelling, get on the officials, etc. That, to some, is the
measure of a good coach. I, for one, respect him for his self-control, because
it's second nature in emotional situations to lose control. And if
he's not into the fan-love, could it be that he's a coach first, not a
radio personality or someone looking for approval at all costs. Cut him some
slack and realize that the media will always look for a story in this
information-saturated society, and most of It is designed to be controversial so
we keep reading. That's why you're reading this, right? DH and the
DN bank on this.
Not one losing season in eight years. Not even Whit has accomplished that. Some
people see this season as a disaster. I must agree I was sorely disappointed by
the SJSU loss, but upsets happen. BYU has rarely been upset. The competition was
stiffer this season and the breaks did not go BYU's way. Why would anyone
want Mendenhall to go? Who could do a better job with the defense? Crickets..
Seriously, Mendenhall's the guy; it is just taking time to recover from
Jake Heaps' transferring and Brandon Doman maturing. Next year enters a new
era; Bronco will learn from this year and I predict at least 9 wins next year,
with 10 a good possibility. You have to admit it is an entertaining product on
the field and he is getting good recruits.
My problem with coach mendenhall is he is so afraid to lose and the fear of
losing keeps you from growing. Even the Detmers of the world at byu had 6
turnover games but Heaps was lucky to make six passes a quarter. Mendenhal gets
his kudos from the defense and not scoring quick and keeping that defense on the
field. He has a great passing quarterback in Hill, a better passer in
High School than almost all of the legends in bygone eras-- who also happens to
be the best athlete on the team so they run him foolishly. Face it the
offensive line has been terrible at BYU for some time now and I believe some of
the bad idea of the running QB's is a function of a poor offensive line.
Heaps never had a chance partly because Mendenhal never addressed the weakness
up front. Remember when BYU would actually pass on first down?
@toosmart:I wasn't talking time frame, I was talking about getting
out of the bubble of being a fan. Get an objective perspective. byu fans are
far from normal. Far from it. Bronco sees it, why don't you?
I think the majority of fans that post here have no idea what they are talking
about when they criticize the coach. Bronco is a great coach and an asset to
the school and the church. I disagree with some of the decisions on Riley
Nelson but he's the coach, not me. His record is amazing and speaks for
itself.It'll be a sad day if/when he leaves.
@Wireless LawyerI re-read your comment. I think we mostly agree
@Wireless LawyerYahoo Sports and Rivals have had BYU's
Recruiting Classes ranked in the top 50 only ONCE in the last six years. Since
when has Bronco started recruiting classes in "the top 25"? Incidentally, the number one and number two recruiting classes from each of
the last six years were listed as follows:2012 (1) Bama (2) Texas2011 (1) Bama (2) FSU2010 (1) USC (2) Florida2009 (1) Bama (2)
LSU2008 (1) Bama (2) ND2007 (1) Florida (2) USC(You can
check it out on Yahoo Sports or Rivals)Look at who has won National
Championships in that same time period. It is almost a 1 to 1 correlation. Top
25 Recruiting Classes don't cut it...top 5 recruiting classes do. Plus, even if it were true that BYU was recruiting "top 25"
classes...look at where BYU is now...not anywhere near the top 25!! (Forget
about winning a National Championship...)
Dallas IIIRemember, LaVel got Jimmy Mac through and out the door
without (being caught for) an honor code violation.Actually not a
bad pop quiz for current readers: If you had it to do over again, would you take
a Jim McMahon, with all his qb mastery and his disdain for the honor code, or
would you settle for something less and stand by your values?
Dick. Gotta dig deeper than this: "On Dec. 20, Mendenhall will lead BYU to
another bowl game. It's a feat Mendenhall has accomplished eight times
— every season since he took over a program that had languished in misery
for three consecutive years before he was in charge." Yes. That's a
fact. Indeed, Coach Bronco has. However, according to his own Athletic Director,
who he reports to, this program is supposed to rise "to the next level."
That, the football program, is not doing. It's stagnant. And why only quote
former defensive players in the article? Of course they'll go to bat for
their "defensive coordinator." We already know his defensive players
will run through the wall for this guy. Where's equal strong support from
former offensive players? Coach Bronco has done a GREAT job in restoring the
program from the Crowton debacle. I'm amongst the group that don't
think he's the one to "get us to the next level" as his boss has
said is a priority.
You really have to wonder when the major complaint about a coach is that
he's not good with the fans or the press or managing timeouts. Nick Saban
is terrible at all three and I suspect there are a few Mendenhall detractors who
wouldn't mind having him coach the Y. For those who want to
show the door to a coach who produced the nation's #3 defense and held
teams to an average of more than 10 points below their scoring average, how do
you plan to replicate that?You may not like him, but Mendenhall has
overachieved--regularly coaching Top 50 recruiting classes to Top 25 poll
rankings. Anyone expecting more than that really has to provide some objective
reasoning as to how Top 50 recruiting classes can compete for a NC.Mendenhall has to say his goal is a NC (every coach has the goal to win every
game), but that doesn't make it a realistic one and thoughtful fans
understand that.Interesting that 80% of the fans on this site
(according to the poll) want Broco to stay. I suspect the vocal minority that
disagree suspect it's because they're smarter than the rest of us. :-)
I never thought Bronco was "too impersonal, unapproachable and
introverted" I just think he has a terrible offense. We need to
get back to the offense of years gone by. Mixing in a good run game with passing
the ball down the field as well as short and intermediate.
@Rational*This whole "It's hard to win because players have
to live standards" argument is RIDICULOUS.*Consistently
recruiting the best Athletes is a large part of how football programs win
national championships. The vast majority of the best athletes do not want to
have to live BYU standards. (And surprise, they don't have to if they go
elsewhere!) BYU will never be able to recruit from the same pool the SEC, The
PAC12, the BIG10 or any of the other "Big Boys" recruit from...and as
such BYU will have a harder time winning. Forever. Maybe it was
Coach Edwards that said it, maybe not. But the phrase rings true: "We (BYU)
can recruit big, we can recruit fast, but if they're big and
fast...they're not coming here!!"
IRS AgentAre you serious? Lavell never had a mic stuck in his
face?he has a post game call in show with the FANS! answered their
questions with dignity and without calling them name (unlike Bronco).Bronco stopped the live call in show, the coaches show is now taped delayed...
Compared to Gary Crowton, Bronco Mendenhall is a breath of fresh air. But then
again, Crowton was on a path of destruction of BYU football. Of course, I want
players to follow the Honor Code and to be held responsible for their conduct.
My biggest concern about Mendenhall is his refusal to admit he has made a
mistake. Going for two against Boise State did not work, so it was a huge
mistake. It is stupid to say he was right and would do the same thing again.
He could have tied the game and sent it into overtime with what appeared to be
an excellent opportunity to win in OT. It is clear that Nelson is a very poor
vertical passer when we have WR's who can catch the ball down field. What
about Mendenhall's responsibility to james Lark, Munn, and even Heaps? I
don't buy for a second that Nelson gives the Cougars the greatest chance to
win. If Nelson were playing some other position his grit and toughness might
have really helped the team.
I'm going to stop criticizing Coach Mendenhall. He has an impossible
position that very few coaches would want. He's expected to coach a
football team, be successful, and act like a bishop or general authority of the
Mormon Church at the same time. No wonder Whittingham didn't want the job.
When was the last time anyone see a Mormon Church leader take criticism and
respond to it. Mendenhall is expected to act beyond reproach and that's
exactly what he's doing.
That really is a false dilemma that "something has to give" between
upholding the Honor Code and winning games. Why do they have to be mutually
exclusive? Try telling LaVell that and see what he says. True, the BYU head
coach has more obstacles to overcome if he wants to win. But Bronco's main
obstacle is himself. It's his decisionmaking--going for 2 at Boise State,
sticking invariably with Nelson, calling timeouts early in the 3rd quarter when
he knows they'll probably be needed in the game's last 5 minutes. The
only thing that has to give is Bronco's unfailing dedication to his
coordinators' decisions. Being the head coach means making the tough
calls. Just because the fans want to see Lark play instead of Riley
doesn't mean it's the wrong choice. Bronco should know that by now.
"I don't think fans understand that BYU cannot pay coaches enough in
this competitive market," said Jadon Wagner.Wrong. I understand
this:Winning = revenue. Losing = no revenue. Don't
BYU got in on the ground floor of the West Coast Offense and managed to stay a
step ahead of defenses for almost twenty years. That led to a lot of success,
including beating top-twenty teams more often than losing to them. But, as Norm
Chow has often said, defense caught up to BYU's offense and its a lot
tougher winning against teams BYU used to be very competitive against.I don't think there is a Quarterback, Offensive Coordinator, or Head
Coach that is going to instantly put BYU back on the map. Until then, those are
going to be very tough positions to be in.
BYU cannot win a National Championships with behavioral, academic and moral
standards? Seems Notre Dame has those (higher academic standards), and they are
in the NC game.BYU players and coaches have to be chastised for
swearing too much? A) Help me understand the causal relationship between
swearing and athletic success. Then explain it to Heisman Winners Roger Staubach
and Tim Tebow.B) Getting a bunch of returned missionaries to keep their
language clean makes it tough to coach at BYU?C) Is that why Manti
Te'o went to Notre Dame? To avoid the swearing?D) Maybe that is why
BYU had a disappointing season -- the players aren't "doing the right
things on and off the field."E) So when Bronco talks about the 2000
stripling warriors he tells players they only have to believe SOME of the things
"their mothers taught them," or does he only recruit players whose
mothers taught them how to swear?F) This whole "It's hard to win
because players have to live standards" argument is RIDICULOUS.BYU can't win because it can't pay its coaches enough? Do they pay
them more than San Jose State pays theirs?
"Bronco Mendenhall is not going to throw a guy under the bus — not his
player or his staff,"I think Robert Anae would beg to differ.
Compare BYU's record and QB's with and without Anae. Draw your own
conclusions.He undermined Anae, or rather, failed to support him
while Doman undermined him, and while Nelson undermined Heaps. The team, fans,
and coaches complained about Heaps immaturity -- HE WAS 19 YEARS OLD. That is
what Senior leadership is for, and what Senior leadership and a team full of
returned missionaries should be excellent at -- squashing backbiting, clicks,
and helping a younger man evolve into a better leader. Bronco AND the team
disappointed me in this (as did the fans).That is one of the things
most consistent and least admirable about Bronco -- he throws others under the
bus, but will not acknowledge his own mistakes. I don't care so much that
he won't acknowledge them publicly, it is the fact he doesn't LEARN
from his mistakes and continues to repeat them.Bronco is a fine DC,
but a disappointment as a head coach, and based on what these young men say, he
is passing his weaknesses on.
I can tell you from a similarly small sample size of former players that there
are plenty of guys who don't support him as well. That is from his days as
a DC, but there are players and fans that think Bronco has some real issues to
work out.I think Bronco was the right guy at the right time, like McBride
at Utah. But he can't get them over the hump. He has done a great job at
building the program up from the shambles that were given to him and he needs to
be celebrated for that. But he needs some more management skills.
ErnestMy perspective goes back to the mid 60's with both BYU
and Utah. How extensive is yours?
@John GaltIf you reread the post without the crimson colored
spectacles, in no way did I compare Bronco to Lombardi, other than the fact that
they are both football coaches. Last time I checked, I think they both did coach
football. I simply used Lombardi as a reference to a football coach that most
people would recognize. I could have inserted John Gruden or John Madden just as
well. The point was simply that even those that people consider to be the best
college football coaches (I am not saying that Bronco is), don't worry
about the fans when making football decisions.
@Y Grad/Y DadNo I am not calling for his head but he has some
problems and they are mostly of his making. As far as my "absolutes" are
concerned, well they are correct. he does not own up to mistakes even when they
are obvious. he has insulted the fans on more than one occasional, questioning
the level of our intelligence, our education, our desires to be involved with
the program, our contributions to the program, and many other things. Those were
all well documented in the local press.Bronco surely knows plenty
about the x's and o's of football, definately more than the vast
majority of fans, but that does not mean that he has no responsibility to be at
least cordial to fans and frankly he is making a huge mistake by not being more
freindly and complimentary towards the fans. Fans are the ones with the passion,
and dollars, that make the entire program possible. Some coaches get that and
some don't. Bronco doesn't appear to get it.
So now Dick Harmon's theme is "Mr. Misunderstood Mendenhall". OK,
so maybe you have to follow the company line for BYU but can't you be a
little more objective? Even Crowton and Reed had their supporters,I could find
someone who supports anyone you name--but that does not make them the best
person for the job, nor does it give them the ability to make good decisions.
Bronko has the ability to turn a sweet cream into sour milk. Consider the
handling of the Unga situation, basically it was leave school repent and come
back to play next fall. Then the All everything QB who would lead BYU, only to
be swapped out for Riley Nelson. Don't forget the Taysom run in a
meaningless point for an injury.(still in game)If the fans think this year was a
disaster wait until next year. What do you think the reaction will be with a
three or possibly four wins next season? So will Bonko be "Mr. Misunderstood
IRS Agent"As for worrying about the fans more, do you think Lombardi
cared what the fans thought? Do you think he planned his actions, activities or
decisions on what would be popular with them? "Oh, yeah.
Let's compare Mendenhall to Lombardi. BTW--the fans loved Lombardi.
Lombardi could coach. And produce winners.
I hope that the Y keeps Bronco. As far as I'm concerned, he's the best
thing that's ever happened to the U! And here's something for you
cougs to ponder--no matter how good Hill may be at QB, Doman will call a dumb
play and get him injured early. Bronco will continue to play him, and his injury
will not get any better. Then, after a while, you'll have another QB
controversy, because that's what bYu is known for these days. Oh, and
beating really weak teams.
People are losing perspective. Coach Edwards wasn't a "media
darling" when he first started at BYU, but he softened and evolved as his
career progressed. You can already see it happening with Bronco. Also, back in
the day, Lavell only had a camera and mic shoved in his face on occasion, and he
could usually control when that would happen. Nowadays, everyone and their 10
year old kid has a camera and can capture anything they want. It is a matter of
survival for anyone in the public eye to be somewhat guarded and distant. As for worrying about the fans more, do you think Lombardi cared what
the fans thought? Do you think he planned his actions, activities or decisions
on what would be popular with them? Do you think Urban Meyer pauses for one
second to consider what the fans might think of his decisions, or how they might
be perceived by those in the stands? A good coach has to make a decisionon the
fly and go with it. Judging from his record, I can only assume that all things
considered, Bronco will only do what he thinks will generate wins. Period.
DuckhunterHighland, UTFair reproach. Others are calling for
his head. You are merely criticizing him for his PR abilities. So
I will reprove, slightly. Your post speaks in absolutes: insulted the fans
(all?), never admitted to a single mistake, acting as if they are all nitwits.
Exaggeration and hyperbole do not contribute to an open debate where some are
calling for a good coach and a great man to be shown the door. I
personally have never felt insulted, criticized or demeaned. I happen to
believe he DOES know more about the game than I do. I think he probably knows
more about the game than anyone posting here. And if it comes down to choosing
sides, I choose his.
A silly article by Dick. Nothing more than spin. Fans don't care to know
Bronco. They just want good, competent coaching. Bronco has made several obvious
poor decisions the last few years. There has been poor offensive line play. Poor
quarterback play. The offense appears to be a grab bag of plays. He is made
several questionable hires in terms of coaching experience. The program has
missed on several local players because they weren't "good enough"
to play yet have starred at other division 1 schools. Bronco is a good defensive
coach. As a head coach, he is clearly lacking. Just because I didn't play
for bronco or know him well doesn't mean that I can't recognize when a
team is well coached or not.
@toosmart:You need some perspective. The last three byu coaches
couldn't stand their own fans.
It's my belief that national championships and BYU honor code can't
exist on the same field. I'am not saying that I prefer winning over honor
but the BYU staff needs to let the public know up front that this will not be a
championship year. Year in and year out. They need to let the public know that
it will be a year of building great men though. That way we won't be
Read the article - LOL.Read the posts from BYU "fans" -
ErnestIf fans are "normal" at the U of U, as you imply, in
contrast I'll take weird.
I will keep my expectations low for the bowl game, and if they take the lead,
I'll be as excited as every other great BYU fan. But I'll survive if
they don't win, because that is what I expect. life will go on. I just
cannot get pumped up anymore because of all the disappointments. But on the
good side, I'm proud of the caliber of men who come together to play this
great sport. I'm sure that the accomplishments of the future in their
lives will be of far greater notice and worth than what they do in their years
at BYU. For that, I congratulate Bronco, his staff, the fans, and all the great
players we get to see each college season at BYU. I favor them over ANY other
school because of their personal accomplishments off the field. Go Cougars!
The real anchor here is the fans, not the coach. The weirdness that permeates
that fan base is legendary.
A few thoughts:1) With the position comes 65,000 "officials and
coaches" who watch every home game. And almost every one of them has an
opinion. They are responsible for a large amount of funds used to support the
program. Don't alienate them.2) Get the blinders off
regarding Doman. He is in the press box, on the field, in the press boc, etc.
A fish out of water, he made bad decisions, like giving Hill a play that
resulted in an injury. Get him up to speed or replace him for the
program's sake.3) When BYU decided to go for two at Boise, BSU
called time out and adjusted to the play. BYU should have then gone for one.
If the other team adjusts, you better too. Otherwise, go for it and wish you
had. That's an example of being "out-coached" and head-strong.4) How can you allow Riley to play with a rib injury when he's
still being examined by the doctor? Riley made it clear he was more interested
in playing than seeing the team win. Who's in charge in such situations,
anyway.....the players? 5) Losing winnable games hurts fans, too.
byu fans will realize how good he was within two years after he leaves.
Bronco is obviously a good man with solid values. But as a football coach he
turned Quarterback U into Quarterback Who?
As per article; "According to these players, if you listen to some fans,
they may think they know. But in reality, they don't have any idea what it
is like to be BYU's head coach — especially this one."The fans have it right, the players are the ones that don't know,
football players are like a crew on a ship, they will go down with the Captain
when the ship is sinking. Next years T shirt slogan; "Band of
This could have been a dream season were it not for Mendenhall's
stubborness. No former, current or future player can deny that.
How much credit do we give for a bowlgame that is contractually obligated to
take BYU if they get to 6 wins?
It's a problem with almost zero national visibility anymore, except to be
out-of-conference fodder for some big schools. It's allegedly on TV
everywhere, but it's only a small population that actually watches. So the
only people Bronco really offends are a small group of hardcore fans. The
average LDS member in the United States couldn't pick him out of a lineup.
I like Bronco and hope he stays for a long time at BYU. I think he is a great
coach and does even better with the defense. I like Riley as well but the whole
situation has been a head scratcher. Can't wait for the Bowl and I am glad
Riley is moving on even though it has been a fun ride.
This next year will give Bronco and Doman an opportunity to redeem themselves.
I'm glad they think Taysom Hill is the answer but personally, I don't
think he has what it takes to beat top tier programs. I think he's a
glorified version of Riley and that's just not going to get it done. To
me, Bronco is a great, tremendous, unbelievable PRACTICE and CONDITIONING coach.
On gameday, he needs to be the leader and decision maker in all facets of the
game. Of course your team is going to tell you on the sidelines that they think
they can make the 2 point conversion or go for it on 4th and 5 but the coach is
supposed to have the wisdom to override the emotion. He seems to be a great guy
and good for the school. I think he's earned another season to show that
he can overcome a bad season. Unfortunately, losing seasons as an independent
have too many far reaching effects (TV deals, recruiting classes, bowl games,
relevence, etc.) We need a good year in 2013!
Whatever else you think of bronco, his handling of quarterbacks in the Nelson
era is indefensible! Only a fool would try!
As for the game in Boise if Byu would of made it would of been hailed as a hero.
I seen some players go for three in bball and two and won when they should of
put it in overtime. Can't argue there though not best thing to do. Elder
Edwards took calls after game not sure if Elder Mendenhall does. Good coaches
and men I think. This season has been a disappointment. That is part of life
of a sports fan though. Hopefully they will do ok in San Diego. With half the
teams going to bowl games now I think that accomplishment is not as serious as
it once was.
@ Y gradUh....I haven't been calling for Bronco's head, to
the contrary I have posted on here many times, especially over the last few
weeks, that I think Bronco has earned a mulligan and he is still the guy for the
job. The difference is that I can also see what the problems with him are and
where they stem from. He has criticized the fans many, many times. He has
insulted the fans and demeaned them. He has never admitted to a single mistake
he has made even when they are obvious. If he was simply semi cordial towards
fans, instead of acting as if they are all nitwits, parasites, and a nuisance,
then he would not be getting all of the criticism he is getting. He
is his problem. His behavior is his problem. He needs to realize that without
fans there is no program. He needs to understand that fans may be unreasonable
and unrealistic at times but fans are paying for the priviledge of being that
way while he is being paid a million a year because of those fans.
Wow. I mostly agree with Bronco re the fans on SLTrib and DesNews. Most are ...
naive. Bronco is a complex man and an excellent motivator and coach. And he
recruits. This is the most athletic team BYU has ever had. That's Bronco.
We're moving into a different world - a highly visible, highly competitive
world. Every bit as competitive as Utah's move to the PAC12. And pretty
much the same results.That said, I've made many posts of the
Nelson situation. I love the guy, but he can't throw. When he stopped being
able to hit his receivers, he should have been benched. Doman was an option QB
and wanted a mobile QB. That was his philosophy. Bronco backed him up.Perspective: Kiffin at USC stunk up the joint. Sarkesian at UW had an uneven
season, beating Stanford and losing to WSU. Angel fans were calling for
Scioscia's head. Laker fans going crazy about this losing team and
they've already fired one coach.Let's see how Bronco moves
on from this disappointing season. And Doman? He'd better win the Bowl
Riley Nelson & Bronco RG3 has something to say to you ,"I
knew I needed to get out at that point," Griffin said. "I couldn't
move. At some point you have to do what's right for the team. And if
I'm playing the rest of that game, I probably would have hurt myself even
As a former player under the Edwards era, I remember Coach being great with
interviews and impromptu social gatherings. He was awesome! Bronco doesn't
have that gift and as a result, so many are unhappy with him. It's too bad
some of our fans need apologies, emotional validation, and/or a coach that gives
them warm fuzzys after a heart breaking loss. I've attended every home game
and am impressed with the quality of men on the field. Bronco is a great man and
I would have loved to play under him.
Yes, Bronco is a great person and defensive coordinator with extensive football
knowledge. That's not the issue. The issue is going 7-5 and losing to WAC
teams. Moral victories are lame. Who cares how many ranked teams you play or
how CLOSE you came when you don't beat any of them?
Y Grad / Y Dad,You said what I was trying to say. Thank you.
And why was LaVell Edwards legendary? He enjoyed the press, loved and gave time
to the fans who loved him. I hate to dissappoint you Bronco lovers but it
isn't all about the boys and how they love him. Head coaching goes way
beyond that . How soon have you forgotten the LaVell Edwards example. It can be
both ways. We saw 20 years of it. If Bronco wasn't so arrogant, he should
look up and see who's name is on the stadium that he and the boys play in.
Hey, if I made over $1,000,000 a year paid for by donars and fans, I
wouldn't give them the time of day either.
Yes, it's been a frustrating season. Yes, we've wondered about some of
Bronco's decisions. But Jadon Wagner summarized it succinctly: "He is
asked to do the impossible: Win games and hold athletes accountable to a very
strict BYU Honor Code." How soon we forget the mess that Gary Crowton
created, bringing in players who blatantly violated the Honor Code while
producing three consecutive losing seasons. I like Bronco Mendenhall despite his
flaws (real or imagined), because he understands that BYU is unlike any other
football program in America. It HAS to be different, and he gets that. He's
still managed to lead the Cougars to eight consecutive bowl invitations and has
a virtual tie with the legendary LaVell Edwards for best winning percentage of
any BYU coach ever.Go, Cougars, against San Diego State.
Ooops."and the CHURCH that sponsors it,"
nunyaAnd you've said it all. I agree totally with Bronco and I
disagree (respectfully) with the people who are OVERLY ticked at Bronco.The one thing that matters: whether he was being too loyal to Brandon or
Riley, or simply was too invested in his own perceptions, Riley should not have
been playing hurt, and the decision to do so cost us winable games.But beyond that? I prefer a coach that says what he thinks, even if it
requires a diagram to figure it out, to a coach that is a PR spin machine. I
prefer a coach whose competitive drive is greater than any of these complaining
fans, yet whose commitment to the values that represent BYU, and the University
that sponsors it, is greater still. I prefer a coach who values his private
space, and then gives that private space to the building of individuals who
happen to be football players.So we'll see. If the big bucks
donors believe Duckhunter on this one, then we will drive one of the finest men
in football away from the program that needs him most. If the big donors, and
the Brethren, agree with me…
Why are fans complaining about Bronco. Isn't head coaching all about hating
the press, disdain for the fans, unintelligent interviews, horrible on field
decisions, and most importantly never reading newspapers, listening to sports
talk or watching tv sports. And how about that great coach's show on tv. We
get a two minute interview after each game with soft ball questions. What are
all the loyal fans complaining about? I just don't understand it.
looks like the deseret news won't post what i put up earlier so let me just
simplify it and say bronco needs to go...i agree with everything Duckhunter said
and disagree with everything bronco is.
I loved this article because we finally heard from players who have a far better
understanding of the coaching than fans. I don't blame Bronco for not
listening to the "fans" because the only ones he doesn't really
listen to are the ones who truly don't have a clue. He has been the best
coach BYU has had in my opinion. He has won a higher percentage of games with
tougher schedules than BYU has ever played in the past, and yet certain fans can
only find problems with him when his teams lose close games to some really good
programs. BYU played five teams that ranked in the top 25 at regular
season's end. When was the last time that happened. They also lost to the
number one team in the nation (at regular season's end) after taking a lead
into the fourth quarter. BYU teams under other coaches would have been blown
out of most of these games, but Bronco has teams that can compete.
I understand where these former players are coming from and I value
Bronco's presence at BYU. He is a good man; an excellent example to these
young men. The respect he gets from the players is well deserved. I have my
problem in that I have believed Bronco's assessment of the teams potential
approaching the season and in the earliest parts of the season. Early into the
season, I have been disappointed that the team is really not nearly as good as I
was led to believe. Sure, they beat most WAC teams, but they rarely win the big
games. A 10 win season is a reachable goal when you only play 2 great teams.
Once in awhile I'd like to beat a good team, and I'm led to believe
each year that they likely will. Now that I have lowered my expectations the
same year that BYU secured more great teams to play, BYU continues to NOT beat
the good teams and their record is exactly where I predicted it would be at
season's end. An undefeated season was reachable this year, but with
Nelson on the field, it was not. Too bad.
Me thinks thee doth protest too much. Who cares how distant he is as long as he
is making good choices and winning important games. His decisions regarding
Riley are outrageously wrong and have left this season in shambles! That will
never be undone. Just watch how this season affects fan support (financial) in
coming years. Sooner than you think, things will change.Remember
the Marriott center was regularly full before roger. I wonder how long it will
take to refill les with the horrible schedule and offensive explosion we call
I am so tired of hearing about this guy..he is a bore.
The disconnect is not because Mendenhall doesn't explain himself well
enough, the disconnect is because Mendenhall has such obvious contempt for the
fans. He has made comments about the fans and how little respect he has for
them. Add to that his propensity to talk in absolutes, his unwillingness to
admit when he personally makes a mistake, and his lack of charisma and it has
resulted in a fanbase that has little tolerence for the mistakes he does make.
If he simply gave fans credit for maybe knowing a thing or two about the sport,
and behaved as if they were actually the important part of the program that they
are then he may find that fans would cut him some slack. But that is a two way
street and Mendenhall does not cut the fans any slack.I remember
when they got lit up by Florida St a few years ago, Mendenhall went on and on
about how the players didn't execute the defensive gameplan well enough
when it was obvious that his game plan stunk. He was dropping guys back and
giving up the underneath and FSU took it. Take responsibility Bronco.