Published: Tuesday, Dec. 11 2012 12:00 a.m. MST
This highlights the GOP modus operandi- Take a reasonable idea -
supporting our laws (Americans with Disabilities Act) around the world-
look to see if it is supported or introduced by Democrats- Inject
inflammtory rhetoric which has no basis in fact- perpetuate the lies to
build a coalition of the uninformed- cast a vote, saving America from an
imagined dire outcome
Thanks DN for printing this thoughtful op-ed from another paper. It seems
unfathomable that anyone could conjure up reasons to vote against this treaty
but somehow some of the senators did just that. I see this Kansas City
newspaper is holding their own Senators accountable for their vote by publicly
chastising them for their vote. Hopeful all responsible journalists in every
city and state will do the same.
America could have affirmed its commitment to giving people with disabilities
worldwide (including disabled Americans working and traveling abroad) the same
rights of access to buildings and transportation that we take for granted
through our Americans with Disabilities Act.But no.Utah
Senators Lee and Hatch voted against this eminently reasonable and important
treaty, all so that they can keep the UN-hating neo-Birchers of their party
happy.On Planet Wingnutia they celebrate those "no" votes.
Here on Earth, I am deeply ashamed to be a Utahn.
Why should this puzzle anyone? They are simply pandering again to the most
extreme members of their party whose tinfoil hats are being shorted out by the
black helicopters that fly over every night.
Lee and Hatch have no morals or ethics.
Apparently, this important vote will be brought to the floor again for
Washington legislators in 2013.Let's hope that Orrin Hatch and Mike
Lee have received the message concerning the major mistake they have made.There is no question that they have voted in a very strange and controversial
way compared to the majority of the world.It would be beneficial for these
two men to prove to America and the world that they are not going off the deep
JoeBlow -- I agree with your comment!- Take a reasonable
idea - supporting our laws (Americans with Disabilities Act) around the world- look to see if it is supported or introduced by Democrats============= Right or Wrong, Good or Bad, simply
doesn't matter in congress.It's can only be GOOD for
America if MY party sponsors it.If not, then it's a BAD thing for
America.Nothing like putting the PARTY ahead of the Country!Pathetic!Nothing short of Nazi Ghestapo tactics!
"Nothing short of Nazi Ghestapo tactics!"I think that is a
bit strong... more like republican witch trials..... And this is not
to say a few democrats in their day have acted as weak kneed on issues either.
But to say that the world enacting a law that had its birth in the US is a
threat to our own ability to govern ourselves... just silly.Lets
say, just for example that this law had been passed, and some nation thought we
were in breach of it - what exactly would they be able to do about it?
Really... what are they going to do. issue a letter of reprimand? Good grief,
we sent an army into a foreign nation simply because we didn't like their
president - the the UN was able to do what about it? China mowed down their
own people while protesting for more rights, and the UN did what about it? These Senators need to put their big boy pants on and explain to lunatic
fringe that everything is going to be ok. McCain has proven himself the biggest
of cowards. Anyway.... this is just more of the same cowardice we see from
politicians every day.
To "LDS Liberal" luckily for us, they did put Country ahead of party.
The UN treaty included laws to create a central database of any person born with
a disability. Would you want your grandchild who is born with a diability to be
on a UN registry?The treaty also grants the UN the authority to
determine the care and education for all people on the disabled registry. Do we
really want to turn our parental rights over to the UN?
@Red Shirt -- Wrong. Just because Glenn Beck says it turns parental rights over
to the UN doesn't mean it does. Do you seriously think anyone would have
voted for it if it really did that? Republicans buckled under pressure from
people who believe in crackpot conspiracy theories and that's the only
reason it didn't pass.
I stated earlier that it would be hard for someone to conjure up reasons to vote
against this treaty but I see Redshirt and his friends at the Heritage
Foundation have done just that. In a lengthy article found in National Review
Online, they spend paragraph after paragraph saying essentially the same thing
which can be summed up by this one paragraph:"This is their
argument, and it’s such a ridiculous argument," says Steven Groves of
the Heritage Foundation. "The premises are completely unsupportable, The
notion that it might improve travel conditions for Americans traveling abroad is
a complete non sequitur, and it has nothing to do with the treaty at all."
In other words, the treaty does little to nothing for Americans." So I guess we should only support international treaties if they can improve
upon conditions that already exist for our citizens. Whatever happened to
America's desire to change the world for better, not just for our own
citizens? Shouldn't we be promoting these rights for citizens everywhere
even if our current laws already promote those rights? Isn't that the
American thing to do?
@ RedShirt: I suppose you are talking about Article 18, Section 2 -
"Liberty of movement and nationality ... Children with disabilities shall be
registered immediately after birth and shall have the right from birth to a
name, the right to acquire a nationality and, as far as possible, the right to
know and be cared for by their parents."Um - yeah - all children
are (or should be) registered after birth - here in the United States it is
called applying for a birth certificate and social security number. Throughout the treaty - including Article 24 - Education - where it uses the
phrase "States Parties" that means the appropriate agency within the
signatory country. Article 31 - Statistics and Data Collection says
that in order to offer the best services and to make sure the services being
offered are appropriate, each country will track data on compliance and
effectiveness and, while making sure the data is anonymous, share it with the UN
and other countries.Nowhere in the treaty does it say anything you
think it says. It is written in clear language, it means exactly what it says,
there is no hidden agenda.
"...Rick Santorum and Glenn Beck...". They put their
"hysteria" agenda ahead of our country.
I guess we can chalk another one up to Glenn Beck for fanning the political
flames over nothing, kind of like his "secret" Obam FEMA concentration
camps, and mass gun confisgations that also turned out to be false.Somedays, Glenn Beck just reminds me time and again of the story of the
little boy who cried wolf.Is it a constant need for attention?, or
is seriously doing it just for the money$.
"The treaty also grants the UN the authority to determine the care and
education for all people on the disabled registry. Do we really want to turn our
parental rights over to the UN?"Redshirt,In my first
post, when I wrote - Inject inflammtory rhetoric which has no basis
in fact- perpetuate the lies to build a coalition of the uninformedPosts like yours are exactly what I was referring to
To "Kalindra" "LDSLiberal" JoeBlow" and other of your ilk.
Read the UN document "Promoting the Rights of Children with
Disabilities". They speak of registering kids with disabilities, and
keeping databases of disabilities so that they can deploy resources
accordingly.Again, why do we want the UN to have the authority to
determine how we are to be caring for the disabled? Do you trust the UN to know
what your disabled child needs?Read the UN document. It either adds
nothing to US laws or else surrenders power to the UN. Either way, it is not a
good law.As for what "Kalindra" pointed out. Imagine you
are poor and give birth to a disabled child. You give that child up for
adoption. Once that child is an adult, a shady lawyer can convince that
disabled adult to sue their birth parents because according to the treaty, they
were not raised by their birth parents. How much more difficult will it be for
teen moms to give up disabled children for adoption?
@RedshirtLearn to read context, for goodness sake, do I have to be worried
that you and your ilk might go crazy and attack friends of mine who work for a
sustainability group because you've read Agenda 21?
To "atl134" I do read the context of what is being stated. I have not
read the UN documents on Agenda 21. You should read teh Democrats Against
Adgenda 21 web site. Quite insiteful. That web site is run by an uber liberal
who, like you, did not believe what the UN was doing. I have also read some of
the Adgenda 21 literature available on the UN web site. Are you saying that I
shouldn't read what the UN has published about their own Adgenda 21?
RedShirt....It must be horribly frightening for you to live in a country
where, every day of the year, around every corner, someone is out to get you.
@ RedShirt: Please quote the exact verbiage that supports your claims. Thank
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