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Published: Monday, Dec. 10 2012 12:46 p.m. MST

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jsf
Centerville, UT

and there you have it, a new tax on the middle class, average household of $252.00 per year. Thank you Obama care. Then the percent hike on your policy for 2013, another tax on the middle class. And they are just going to keep on coming.

Fitz
Murray, UT

Hang on everyone. This is just one of many more surprises yet to come. With Obamacare being over 2,000 pages long, there are lots of these types of surprises yet to come. And there are more surprises, like the taxes that will hit businesses, yet they have nothing to do with health care, other than they are a mechanism to fund Obama's Health Care mandates.

More and more businesses will find this, along with the many other fees and taxes Obamacare carries, and they will start dropping health insurance altogether, or they will put more of the healthcare costs on the employees backs. Either way, the employee is going to pay for Obamacare and it is not going to be cheap.

This whole mess needs to be repealed and Congress needs to start over. Over the next few months, don't be surprised if democrats start seeing the errors of their ways and repeal this mess.

NedGrimley
Brigham City, UT

"...don't be surprised if democrats start seeing the errors of their ways..."

One of the best laughs of the day.

airnaut
Everett, 00

jsf
Centerville, UT
and there you have it, a new tax on the middle class, average household of $252.00 per year.

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jsf --

Please sight were you came up with these phoney bogus numbers.
It was no where in the article.

I can only assume you are multiplying and using a per household number of 4.

This was quoted,
"It set the per capita rate at $5.25 per month, which works out to $63 a year."

FYI --
BooHoo
I'll be happy to pay $20 a month to see to it that my WIFE [who has a pre-exisiting medical condition] can finally have access.

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

Fritz said: "More and more businesses will find this, along with the many other fees and taxes Obamacare carries, and they will start dropping health insurance altogether, or they will put more of the healthcare costs on the employees backs. Either way, the employee is going to pay for Obamacare and it is not going to be cheap."

Like that hasn't been happening for the last 10 years?

I only wish we had gone with the one payer plan instead of this (Heritage Foundation) Republican plan.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

I thought BO said Obamacare would REDUCE the cost of healthcare.

Another lie from the Chicago cabal.

businesses will start doing what some owners of Olive Garden restaurants said they will do - move all their employees to part time so they are below the 50 employee number where they have to provide insurance. Then the working folks will go from 40 hours a week employment with no health insurance to 30 hours a week with no health insurance. But somehow the dems will say they are better off because of Obamacare.

airnaut,
I do not know where jsf came up with his number, but it will be more than the $63 you cite if you eat out or patronize any of the businesses who said they will impose Obamacare premiums on their prices. Whether paid direct or indirectly, Obamacre will end up costing us all more. I'm sorry your wife has a health issue - I hope she is able to manage it.

tabuno
Clearfield, UT

What people don't seem to realize that the savings and benefits to society of allowing people with pre-existing conditions to receive health benefits is enormous compared to this small surcharge. Many with the proper health care who have pre-existing conditions such as asthma or a heart condition can lead long and productivity (tax producing) lives that in the long run can keep many people from even great expensive, specialized hospitalization or lingering, terrible deaths. As a developed country we owe it to ourselves (someday in the future) and those of our neighbors the same health benefits as any human being deserves. One of the biggest problems is the extraordinary care we Americans to go to stay alive at any cost, even without regard to the quality of life.

David
Centerville, UT

Now I would expect business to pass on this extra business expense of $63/employee per year to their customers. But I hope that Obama will price fix every industry and business in America so that businesses are not allowed to raise their prices. Wouldn't that be fair? Not only tax those rich business CEOs, but also protect consumers by controlling prices through centralized government management.

I think the same should be true for housing, education, careers, etc. The government could assign apartments and housing units to people based on a simple system of corruption. Then government could also assign students the responsibility of studying certain things, and assuring them a job in certain markets.

I hope that Obama will buy my gas, and pay my mortgage soon. I want to be like Jane where the government plays a part in every aspect and period of my life from cradle to grave. I totally buy into this Obama thing. I like it.

Tators
Hyrum, UT

"Unless Congress decides to extend it."

That's almost a funny statement (from the article). It's nearly impossible to name any fees or taxes Congress has previously imposed that don't continue and continue... basically forever. There are programs, fees and taxes imposed during WWII that were supposed to expire at the end of that war that continue to this day. Congress simply can't find enough ways to tax constituents. Hence, the over trillion dollar per year deficits we currently suffer with.
I'm willing to wager a huge sum of money that this fee does not end when it is currently scheduled to. I wouldn't even consider it a gamble... sadly, it's a sure thing.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "airnaut" why don't you sign your wife up for insurance now so that she can be covered? Most insurance policies have a 6 month to 1 year waiting period before they will begin to cover pre-existing conditions.

Don't you love your wife enough to get her health insurance?

MysticGrayStar
USA, MO

The MANDATE is the devil in this bill. How can the government FORCE me to purchase an insurance that I CANNOT AFFORD? They don't know my financial obligations or my budget, yet I'll be "punished" with a tax for not earning enough money to purchase health insurance?

What is the government's idea of "affordable", anyway. All of those in Congress are wealthy and can "afford" ANYTHING. Is is 25% of one's income for premiums? 30%? 45%? There is no definition of "affordable" in any of the "Obamacare" 2000+ pages. My idea of affordable is different that someone earning twice as much as my family! That's common sense-PERIOD.

BC/BS offers my family insurance at $437 per month, with a $10,000 decuctible. That's $5200 per year for NOTHING. I get nothing until I've spent over $10,000. The premium's are MORE than 25% of our yearly income. Is that the government's idea of "affordable"?

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