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Published: Monday, Dec. 10 2012 9:55 a.m. MST

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motorbike
Cottonwood Heights, UT

I've poked fun at the "Jimmer Watch" a couple of times, but on this occasion I'll say this instead ... Jimmer strikes me as a good guy who approaches things the right way. I hope for him that when he eventually gets an opportunity for consistent minutes, he'll do well and become an important part of that teams success.
I still think this "watch" should include the leading rookie of the year candidate ... Mr Lillard.

Cougs4Life
Gilbert, AZ

Jimmer might need to hit the weight room. JJ Reddick is a similar player (slightly undersized, good 3-point shooter, limited defensively), but based on this picture, Reddick looks to be much stronger, at least in the arms and shoulders.

OCoug
Ogden, UT

Jimmer had a good week. Kind of surprised to hear praise coming from D. Cousins. Jimmer needs to play well enough that come trade deadline time, another team will take a risk trading for him. Banking on his ability to put the ball in the hoop. He doesn't play great defense, what true point guard really does? The last great point guard defender I recall is the Glove Gary Payton.

The D-News should do a Lillard Watch.

Wildcat
O-town, UT

Glad Jimmer is doing well...now on to bigger and better things.

Lillard Watch:

@ Cleveland: 24 pts, 6 Reb, 11 assists
@ Charlotte: 24 pts, 3 Reb, 9 assists
@ Indiana: 23 pts, 3 Reb, 6 assists
vs. Sacramento: 12 pts, 1 Reb, 9 assists

The Trail Blazers won the at Cleveland and Charlotte before dropping games to the Pacers and Kings. Damian Lillard was named Rookie of the Month for November, and he is currently 12th in the league in scoring. He is averaging 19.1 points per game, 6.3 assists/game and 3.3 rebounds per game. Unfortunately the head-to-head matchup against Jimmer didn't happen as Fredette did not play in that game.

Cheers!

gchris
rock springs, wy

@Cougs4Life

At the NBA combine, Jimmer bench pressed 184 punds 14 times. This was better than almost every one in the draft. JJ Reddick is only stronger than Jimmer in his dreams.

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

So glad for this update! Sometimes I forget what to be obsessed with.

WON84
PLANO, TX

Agreed on the sentiments regarding Lillard. He's sick.

Sea bass, I don't know what we're going to do with you!

Still Blue after all these years
Kaysville, UT

First, if Fredette got the minutes Lilliard got, his number wuold be as impressive, if not more. Second, if Fredette played on a team with any concept (the Kings have none) of team basketball - both offensively and defensively - his numbers would be better than Lilliards. Everyone says his defense is bad, but he has no backup defense. Jazz guards would be beat almost every time without backup. And Jimmer could burn every defender he played except they have backup. Third, Fredette will never become what he is capable of becoming in the sorry Kings organization. They are dumb, don't care and only trying to suck cash out so the owners can have money. Smart is hardly an NBA coach and will absolutely not allow Fredette to flourish. But I applaud Jimmer's attitude in the face of this ridiculous mess in Sacramento.

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

Still Blue.

Lillard has a better FG percentage, better 3-point percentage, and averages 5 times as many assists.

But go ahead and stick your head in the sand and don't let any amount of facts convince you that Jimmer is not the greatest player in the NBA, nay, the greatest player in the history on mankind.

Wildcat
O-town, UT

@Still Blue after all these years:

I kind of find it ironic that Jimmer is suffering playing behind a lineup that isn't team-oriented. Maybe his college days are coming back to haunt him. He definitely had a shoot first mentality...if you doubt it, watch the last few minutes of the tournament game vs. Florida. I'll say it again...I thought he was going to take his shoes off and chuck them at the hoop that game. Or remember when he was double-teamed in the closing seconds vs. the Jazz--he wasn't going to pass up taking the last shot for anything. The 35 footers were cute when he made them, but made him look like a giant ball hog when he missed them.

Fredette is a great kid and a quality person. He's an inspiration to church basketball hoopers everywhere, and the D-News (barring a restraining order), just can't quit him, but let's not get carried away and say he is better than Lillard, good as Lillard, or even in my opinion, relatively close to Lillard.

Lillard is the real deal! Future Rookie of the Year!

Henry Drummond
San Jose, CA

@Two For Flinching
Then there is the fact that The Jimmer has trouble guarding the faster PGs in the league. That's why he tends to remain on the bench the entire game on several occassions. He gives up too many points.

MSA
lehi, UT

@ 2 for flinching
Sorry, you are the one with the fact problem. Where are you getting your facts? Lillard does have more assists but Jimmer has a better FG% & 3P%. Not to mention a much better FT%.

With that said, I think Lillard has the athleticism to be a great (not just good) NBA PG. Jimmers skills at PG are much better suited for the college level; however, if used right he could be a very deadly weapon for an unselfish team.

TrueBlue
Orem, UT

Two For Flinching

Lillard could have a hall of fame career in the NBA (possible, but unlikely) but that would still be overshadowed by what Jimmer accomplished as a collegian.

There's a reason EVERY college basketball fan remembers Jimmermania, but Lillard's college basketball career was hardly a blip on the national radar.

Jimmer - concensus national player of the year
Lillard - virtually unknown outside of Utah and the Big Sky

FatMan86
West Jordan, UT

I hope Jimmer can figure it out and become a great NBA player, but the facts are indisputable at this point, Lillard is the better all around player.....and it's not even close. I can't put my finger on it, but some players are just better suited to the NBA style game.

Coach Biff
Lehi, UT

How did Jimmer and Lillard do head to head in college? Just wondering....

SCCougar
LEXINGTON, SC

Jimmer is in the top 10 for points per 48 minutes. For the limited amount of time he is in a game he is being very productive. If he could consistently get 25 to 30 mpg you would see his ppg go way up.

sammyg
Springville, UT

poor flinched

Would a change of subject make you feel better? Let's talk Alex Smith... lost his starting QB slot... there does that make you feel better?

I guess you're still upset that Jimmer made that half court shot a couple of years ago and its still on YouTube.

Get over it. Jimmer makes the news in the Dnews.

skywalker
Palo Alto, CA

Jimmer Fredette gained national fame during his collegiate career at Brigham Young University, where he was the leading scorer in all of NCAA Division I basketball during his senior season and earned every major National Player of the Year honor, including the Wooden Award, the Naismith Award, the Adolph Rupp Trophy, and the Oscar Robertson Trophy.

Jimmer led his team to the Sweet Sixteen and a Top 10 ranking.

As a redshirt junior, Damian Lillard led Weber State University to a 14–2 record in Big Sky conference play and an appearance in the Big Sky championship game.

Lillard couldn't even lead his team to a Big Sky championship.

Regardless of what Lillard does during his NBA career, he will NEVER be the Concensus National College Player of the Year!

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Collegiate and professional careers are mutually exclusive. You don't need a great pro career to validate an outstanding collegiate career. And an under-the-radar collegiate career doesn't rule out having a great pro career - see Sam Bowie and Scottie Pippen.

AzTim
Gilbert, AZ

What language is "Dog, Jimmer got moves, dog"? My grade school English teacher really let me down.

LetsDebate
PLEASANT GROVE, UT

I love Jimmer and hope he gets his chance to play more minutes. I'd love to see how he does now as a starter, with some experience under his belt.

But, you can't make any relevant comparison between his stats and Lillard's. Since Lillard starts and Jimmer comes off the bench, they're usually playing against very different teams. Gordon Hayward scores a lot more points coming off the bench than he did when he started. Jimmer may be developing into one a credible threat off the bench, but probably would be expected to curb his shooting and dish out more assists if he started. And, when he does create a shot, he's usually doing so against a second team defense.

The statistical comparisons are absolutely meaningless.

And, I've said it before and I'll say it again, everyone who bemoans Jimmer's defense is woefully oblivious to horrible defense being played by many starters, including some of the Jazz. Jimmer's defense is no worse than NBA average, and those who keep beating that drum are just lazy scout wannabe's who regurgitate lame cliches to sound more knowledgeable than they really are.

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